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Can someone explain EMEA seeding? How is M3C not 1

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ThoriumFury

If 2 teams have the same number of win/loss then the seeding is decided based on the round differential or delta, correct?
Then how is FPX 1st seed and M3C 2nd seed despite M3C having a delta of 58 and FPX having only 20 while both teams have won 4 matches and lost one in the group stage?

Is it because M3C lost to FPX in a match-up? If so, is that the right way because M3C clapped LDN who were able to clap FPX? Isn't the delta thing more reliable? As every team faced every other team in the group and M3C clearly performed way better in all their matchups than the rest of the teams.

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idk fr shit confuses me

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sohambari
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Tie breaker goes H2H before round differential that's all

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CanadianLegend
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It’s based off H2H not Round Difference, M3C lost to FPX and both are 4-1 so the seeding automatically goes to FPeeX

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CanadianLegend [#4]

It’s based off H2H not Round Difference, M3C lost to FPX and both are 4-1 so the seeding automatically goes to FPeeX

That's sad. From EMEA and NA group seeding it appears that both hold true except when you look at M3C and FPX. One might think it is based on Round differential when it isn't. Why even put that thing in the charts if it's useless.

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That explains everything. Thank you.

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CanadianLegend
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ThoriumFury [#6]

That's sad. From EMEA and NA group seeding it appears that both hold true except when you look at M3C and FPX. One might think it is based on Round differential when it isn't. Why even put that thing in the charts if it's useless.

It’s not, it’s weird. When there is a 3 way tie, that is when Round Difference come into play. But as you can see it’s highly unlikely

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ThoriumFury [#6]

That's sad. From EMEA and NA group seeding it appears that both hold true except when you look at M3C and FPX. One might think it is based on Round differential when it isn't. Why even put that thing in the charts if it's useless.

I think vlr just put it in there to have some type of logic in the table while the group stage wasnt finished

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ThoriumFury
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So I checked the Korean Group stage , there DRX and On Sla2ers both have 6 wins 1 loss and On Sla2ers beat DRX and has better delta and still DRX is 1st seed.
At this point it feels like riot just pulls decisions from its azz.

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CanadianLegend [#4]

It’s based off H2H not Round Difference, M3C lost to FPX and both are 4-1 so the seeding automatically goes to FPeeX

Well I checked the Korean group stage and shit doesn’t add up. DRX should be 2nd seed in either scenario but it is 1st. SMH riot

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CanadianLegend [#4]

It’s based off H2H not Round Difference, M3C lost to FPX and both are 4-1 so the seeding automatically goes to FPeeX

Checkout the Korean group stage , Why is DRX 1st seed?

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ThoriumFury [#12]

Checkout the Korean group stage , Why is DRX 1st seed?

Korea different ig

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ThoriumFury [#10]

So I checked the Korean Group stage , there DRX and On Sla2ers both have 6 wins 1 loss and On Sla2ers beat DRX and has better delta and still DRX is 1st seed.
At this point it feels like riot just pulls decisions from its azz.

different region different rules it happens back then too

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WCPLAYZ
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ThoriumFury [#10]

So I checked the Korean Group stage , there DRX and On Sla2ers both have 6 wins 1 loss and On Sla2ers beat DRX and has better delta and still DRX is 1st seed.
At this point it feels like riot just pulls decisions from its azz.

i think ONS and DRX places can be exchangable but the leaderboard puts DRX in first
bcuz both 1st and 2nd places will have the same seeding which is a spot in upper semis

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