tsm v soar
stellar
SoaR
|
epathy
SoaR
|
Trill
SoaR
|
v1c
SoaR
|
fiziq
SoaR
|
|
Rossy
TSM
|
6
4
+2
|
6
10
-4
|
4
2
+2
|
10
5
+5
|
7
3
+4
|
Subroza
TSM
|
5
7
-2
|
7
4
+3
|
7
2
+5
|
6
6
+0
|
6
6
+0
|
WARDELL
TSM
|
15
2
+13
|
7
7
+0
|
6
2
+4
|
7
2
+5
|
11
2
+9
|
LeviathanAG
TSM
|
1
9
-8
|
3
2
+1
|
6
6
+0
|
6
4
+2
|
3
3
+0
|
corey
TSM
|
5
5
+0
|
8
4
+4
|
7
5
+2
|
5
10
-5
|
9
4
+5
|
stellar
SoaR
|
epathy
SoaR
|
Trill
SoaR
|
v1c
SoaR
|
fiziq
SoaR
|
|
Rossy
TSM
|
|
0
2
-2
|
|
1
0
+1
|
|
Subroza
TSM
|
2
0
+2
|
2
3
-1
|
|
2
0
+2
|
0
1
-1
|
WARDELL
TSM
|
3
0
+3
|
1
0
+1
|
|
2
0
+2
|
2
0
+2
|
LeviathanAG
TSM
|
0
1
-1
|
1
1
+0
|
1
1
+0
|
2
0
+2
|
1
1
+0
|
corey
TSM
|
0
1
-1
|
1
1
+0
|
1
1
+0
|
0
2
-2
|
3
0
+3
|
stellar
SoaR
|
epathy
SoaR
|
Trill
SoaR
|
v1c
SoaR
|
fiziq
SoaR
|
|
Rossy
TSM
|
|
0
1
-1
|
|
|
|
Subroza
TSM
|
|
0
1
-1
|
|
|
|
WARDELL
TSM
|
6
0
+6
|
4
1
+3
|
4
0
+4
|
3
0
+3
|
7
0
+7
|
LeviathanAG
TSM
|
|
0
1
-1
|
|
|
|
corey
TSM
|
|
|
|
|
|
2K | 3K | 4K | 5K | 1v1 | 1v2 | 1v3 | 1v4 | 1v5 | ECON | PL | DE | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
WARDELL
TSM
|
|
8
|
4
|
|
|
|
1
|
|
|
|
117
|
2
|
3
|
Subroza
TSM
|
|
9
|
|
|
|
1
|
|
|
|
|
78
|
2
|
0
|
corey
TSM
|
|
8
|
1
|
1
|
|
|
1
|
|
|
|
64
|
2
|
0
|
Rossy
TSM
|
|
3
|
3
|
1
|
|
|
1
|
|
|
|
58
|
9
|
1
|
LeviathanAG
TSM
|
|
4
|
|
|
|
1
|
|
|
|
|
40
|
4
|
0
|
stellar
SoaR
|
|
5
|
1
|
|
|
1
|
|
|
|
|
39
|
0
|
0
|
fiziq
SoaR
|
|
1
|
1
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
41
|
4
|
0
|
epathy
SoaR
|
|
6
|
1
|
|
|
|
1
|
|
|
|
48
|
2
|
0
|
Trill
SoaR
|
|
4
|
|
|
|
1
|
|
|
|
|
34
|
7
|
2
|
v1c
SoaR
|
|
3
|
2
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
53
|
1
|
0
|
stellar
SoaR
|
epathy
SoaR
|
Trill
SoaR
|
v1c
SoaR
|
fiziq
SoaR
|
|
Rossy
TSM
|
1
2
-1
|
3
0
+3
|
3
0
+3
|
4
3
+1
|
4
3
+1
|
Subroza
TSM
|
4
2
+2
|
4
1
+3
|
4
1
+3
|
2
1
+1
|
2
2
+0
|
WARDELL
TSM
|
5
0
+5
|
2
4
-2
|
4
1
+3
|
5
0
+5
|
3
0
+3
|
LeviathanAG
TSM
|
1
0
+1
|
0
1
-1
|
1
2
-1
|
2
2
+0
|
3
1
+2
|
corey
TSM
|
2
1
+1
|
4
0
+4
|
2
1
+1
|
2
8
-6
|
4
2
+2
|
stellar
SoaR
|
epathy
SoaR
|
Trill
SoaR
|
v1c
SoaR
|
fiziq
SoaR
|
|
Rossy
TSM
|
|
|
|
|
|
Subroza
TSM
|
2
0
+2
|
|
|
|
0
1
-1
|
WARDELL
TSM
|
2
0
+2
|
1
0
+1
|
|
2
0
+2
|
1
0
+1
|
LeviathanAG
TSM
|
|
0
1
-1
|
0
1
-1
|
1
0
+1
|
1
0
+1
|
corey
TSM
|
|
|
1
0
+1
|
0
1
-1
|
1
0
+1
|
stellar
SoaR
|
epathy
SoaR
|
Trill
SoaR
|
v1c
SoaR
|
fiziq
SoaR
|
|
Rossy
TSM
|
|
|
|
|
|
Subroza
TSM
|
|
0
1
-1
|
|
|
|
WARDELL
TSM
|
2
0
+2
|
2
1
+1
|
3
0
+3
|
3
0
+3
|
1
0
+1
|
LeviathanAG
TSM
|
|
0
1
-1
|
|
|
|
corey
TSM
|
|
|
|
|
|
2K | 3K | 4K | 5K | 1v1 | 1v2 | 1v3 | 1v4 | 1v5 | ECON | PL | DE | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
WARDELL
TSM
|
|
1
Round 16
v1c
fiziq
|
3
Round 5
stellar
Trill
v1c
Round 7
epathy
stellar
Trill
Round 13
stellar
fiziq
Trill
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
134
|
0
|
1
|
Subroza
TSM
|
|
5
Round 2
stellar
Trill
Round 6
fiziq
epathy
Round 9
stellar
fiziq
Round 11
Trill
stellar
Round 12
v1c
Trill
|
|
|
|
1
Round 5
epathy
|
|
|
|
|
108
|
1
|
0
|
corey
TSM
|
|
2
Round 4
fiziq
Trill
Round 11
epathy
fiziq
|
1
Round 1
stellar
v1c
fiziq
|
1
Round 14
Trill
epathy
v1c
fiziq
|
|
|
1
Round 1
v1c
fiziq
|
|
|
|
53
|
2
|
0
|
Rossy
TSM
|
|
3
Round 2
fiziq
v1c
Round 4
v1c
epathy
Round 16
Trill
epathy
|
1
Round 8
fiziq
v1c
Trill
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
61
|
5
|
0
|
LeviathanAG
TSM
|
|
2
Round 3
fiziq
stellar
Round 6
v1c
Trill
|
|
|
|
1
Round 16
stellar
|
|
|
|
|
33
|
2
|
0
|
stellar
SoaR
|
|
1
Round 14
corey
Subroza
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
18
|
0
|
0
|
fiziq
SoaR
|
|
1
Round 15
Rossy
corey
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
44
|
0
|
0
|
epathy
SoaR
|
|
1
Round 10
WARDELL
Subroza
|
|
|
|
|
1
Round 8
WARDELL
Rossy
|
|
|
|
37
|
0
|
0
|
Trill
SoaR
|
|
1
Round 16
WARDELL
Subroza
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
27
|
2
|
0
|
v1c
SoaR
|
|
3
Round 5
corey
Rossy
Round 8
corey
LeviathanAG
Round 9
corey
Rossy
|
1
Round 10
corey
Rossy
LeviathanAG
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
70
|
0
|
0
|
stellar
SoaR
|
epathy
SoaR
|
Trill
SoaR
|
v1c
SoaR
|
fiziq
SoaR
|
|
Rossy
TSM
|
5
2
+3
|
3
10
-7
|
1
2
-1
|
6
2
+4
|
3
0
+3
|
Subroza
TSM
|
1
5
-4
|
3
3
+0
|
3
1
+2
|
4
5
-1
|
4
4
+0
|
WARDELL
TSM
|
10
2
+8
|
5
3
+2
|
2
1
+1
|
2
2
+0
|
8
2
+6
|
LeviathanAG
TSM
|
0
9
-9
|
3
1
+2
|
5
4
+1
|
4
2
+2
|
0
2
-2
|
corey
TSM
|
3
4
-1
|
4
4
+0
|
5
4
+1
|
3
2
+1
|
5
2
+3
|
stellar
SoaR
|
epathy
SoaR
|
Trill
SoaR
|
v1c
SoaR
|
fiziq
SoaR
|
|
Rossy
TSM
|
|
0
2
-2
|
|
1
0
+1
|
|
Subroza
TSM
|
|
2
3
-1
|
|
2
0
+2
|
|
WARDELL
TSM
|
1
0
+1
|
|
|
|
1
0
+1
|
LeviathanAG
TSM
|
0
1
-1
|
1
0
+1
|
1
0
+1
|
1
0
+1
|
0
1
-1
|
corey
TSM
|
0
1
-1
|
1
1
+0
|
0
1
-1
|
0
1
-1
|
2
0
+2
|
stellar
SoaR
|
epathy
SoaR
|
Trill
SoaR
|
v1c
SoaR
|
fiziq
SoaR
|
|
Rossy
TSM
|
|
0
1
-1
|
|
|
|
Subroza
TSM
|
|
|
|
|
|
WARDELL
TSM
|
4
0
+4
|
2
0
+2
|
1
0
+1
|
|
6
0
+6
|
LeviathanAG
TSM
|
|
|
|
|
|
corey
TSM
|
|
|
|
|
|
2K | 3K | 4K | 5K | 1v1 | 1v2 | 1v3 | 1v4 | 1v5 | ECON | PL | DE | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
WARDELL
TSM
|
|
7
Round 1
stellar
Trill
Round 3
epathy
stellar
Round 5
epathy
fiziq
Round 6
v1c
fiziq
Round 10
stellar
fiziq
Round 19
epathy
fiziq
Round 20
fiziq
stellar
|
1
Round 21
fiziq
epathy
v1c
|
|
|
|
1
Round 19
epathy
fiziq
|
|
|
|
100
|
2
|
2
|
Subroza
TSM
|
|
4
Round 14
epathy
fiziq
Round 16
epathy
fiziq
Round 22
v1c
fiziq
Round 24
epathy
fiziq
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
47
|
1
|
0
|
corey
TSM
|
|
6
Round 7
fiziq
epathy
Round 8
fiziq
stellar
Round 17
epathy
stellar
Round 19
Trill
v1c
Round 20
epathy
Trill
Round 24
v1c
Trill
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
75
|
0
|
0
|
Rossy
TSM
|
|
|
2
Round 18
stellar
fiziq
epathy
Round 23
v1c
stellar
fiziq
|
1
Round 15
Trill
v1c
epathy
stellar
|
|
|
1
Round 15
stellar
epathy
|
|
|
|
54
|
4
|
1
|
LeviathanAG
TSM
|
|
2
Round 2
Trill
epathy
Round 22
Trill
epathy
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
47
|
2
|
0
|
stellar
SoaR
|
|
4
Round 3
corey
LeviathanAG
Round 8
LeviathanAG
WARDELL
Round 14
Subroza
corey
Round 20
Subroza
LeviathanAG
|
1
Round 5
LeviathanAG
WARDELL
Subroza
|
|
|
1
Round 5
Subroza
|
|
|
|
|
60
|
0
|
0
|
fiziq
SoaR
|
|
|
1
Round 4
Subroza
WARDELL
corey
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
38
|
4
|
0
|
epathy
SoaR
|
|
5
Round 2
corey
Rossy
Round 6
Rossy
WARDELL
Round 12
WARDELL
Rossy
Round 19
Rossy
corey
Round 22
corey
Rossy
|
1
Round 7
Subroza
WARDELL
Rossy
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
59
|
2
|
0
|
Trill
SoaR
|
|
3
Round 5
corey
Rossy
Round 7
corey
LeviathanAG
Round 14
Rossy
LeviathanAG
|
|
|
|
1
Round 7
LeviathanAG
|
|
|
|
|
40
|
5
|
2
|
v1c
SoaR
|
|
|
1
Round 15
LeviathanAG
WARDELL
Subroza
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
36
|
1
|
0
|
ok, i still want tsm to win, even with their current roster if possible. but i have a question for you.
how many years of missed LANs and Masters would it take to stop you from saying "don't give up hope on TSM." imagine they don't make impactful roster changes and just keep losing, like they have been. how many years would it take for you to eventually call for a roster change or signing another team.
if you are a TSM fan, you support the TSM org's success. i'm more of a wardell fan, so I support TSM because of him. sometimes, what's best for the team is a roster change or major shakeup.
realistically, last time we played, we were a Top 8 genuine Tier1 team who took maps off Envy and Rise. did we really get worse from there, or did we just lose to a surprisingly good team?
faze and gen.g are with us in the lower bracket, so it’s not completely for shitters. i guess i’m coping idk. will check the bracket periodically to see how tsm is faring. they should stream the lower bracket games at 7 and 10 on observer streams, since there’s only one upper bracket game at each time slot.