beyAz with the tactical flag change so they participate in French qualifiers hehe
Anyway, they chose to compete in EU from start to finish even if it might be harder at the beginning. I respect them, this team will go big in the future.
Reckeyy
Exal
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Volte
Exal
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Sco
Exal
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MichelCastr0
Exal
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SixK9
Exal
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beyAz
DATH
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5
2
+3
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7
4
+3
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6
6
+0
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7
2
+5
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8
6
+2
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Paz
DATH
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11
1
+10
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5
2
+3
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7
2
+5
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8
6
+2
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5
6
-1
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MAJ3R
DATH
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5
5
+0
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3
3
+0
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8
2
+6
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2
1
+1
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6
5
+1
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ngiN
DATH
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6
3
+3
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6
7
-1
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4
6
-2
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8
2
+6
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5
4
+1
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cacan
DATH
|
2
3
-1
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8
2
+6
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5
2
+3
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4
2
+2
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3
4
-1
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Reckeyy
Exal
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Volte
Exal
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Sco
Exal
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MichelCastr0
Exal
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SixK9
Exal
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beyAz
DATH
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1
0
+1
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1
1
+0
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3
1
+2
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2
1
+1
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Paz
DATH
|
1
0
+1
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1
0
+1
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1
1
+0
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3
0
+3
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1
0
+1
|
MAJ3R
DATH
|
1
0
+1
|
0
1
-1
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1
0
+1
|
|
1
0
+1
|
ngiN
DATH
|
2
0
+2
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|
1
1
+0
|
|
1
2
-1
|
cacan
DATH
|
1
1
+0
|
1
0
+1
|
0
1
-1
|
|
|
Reckeyy
Exal
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Volte
Exal
|
Sco
Exal
|
MichelCastr0
Exal
|
SixK9
Exal
|
|
beyAz
DATH
|
0
1
-1
|
|
|
|
|
Paz
DATH
|
2
0
+2
|
3
0
+3
|
3
0
+3
|
4
0
+4
|
1
0
+1
|
MAJ3R
DATH
|
|
|
|
|
|
ngiN
DATH
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|
|
|
|
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cacan
DATH
|
0
1
-1
|
|
|
|
|
2K | 3K | 4K | 5K | 1v1 | 1v2 | 1v3 | 1v4 | 1v5 | ECON | PL | DE | ||
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beyAz
DATH
|
|
3
|
2
|
2
|
|
1
|
|
|
|
|
73
|
1
|
1
|
cacan
DATH
|
|
5
|
|
|
1
|
1
|
1
|
|
|
|
60
|
0
|
3
|
Paz
DATH
|
|
8
|
4
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
101
|
1
|
0
|
MAJ3R
DATH
|
|
5
|
|
|
|
1
|
|
|
|
|
61
|
3
|
3
|
ngiN
DATH
|
|
6
|
1
|
|
|
1
|
|
|
|
|
51
|
3
|
0
|
MichelCastr0
Exal
|
|
3
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
33
|
1
|
0
|
Sco
Exal
|
|
5
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
45
|
2
|
0
|
Reckeyy
Exal
|
|
2
|
1
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
34
|
2
|
0
|
SixK9
Exal
|
|
7
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
61
|
0
|
1
|
Volte
Exal
|
|
3
|
1
|
|
|
1
|
|
|
|
|
35
|
3
|
1
|
Reckeyy
Exal
|
Volte
Exal
|
Sco
Exal
|
MichelCastr0
Exal
|
SixK9
Exal
|
|
beyAz
DATH
|
0
2
-2
|
2
2
+0
|
4
1
+3
|
4
0
+4
|
5
5
+0
|
Paz
DATH
|
4
0
+4
|
2
0
+2
|
1
1
+0
|
4
4
+0
|
3
3
+0
|
MAJ3R
DATH
|
2
2
+0
|
0
3
-3
|
6
1
+5
|
2
1
+1
|
4
1
+3
|
ngiN
DATH
|
5
0
+5
|
4
4
+0
|
2
4
-2
|
2
0
+2
|
0
2
-2
|
cacan
DATH
|
2
1
+1
|
5
1
+4
|
2
1
+1
|
2
1
+1
|
1
2
-1
|
Reckeyy
Exal
|
Volte
Exal
|
Sco
Exal
|
MichelCastr0
Exal
|
SixK9
Exal
|
|
beyAz
DATH
|
|
1
0
+1
|
|
3
0
+3
|
1
1
+0
|
Paz
DATH
|
|
|
0
1
-1
|
2
0
+2
|
|
MAJ3R
DATH
|
|
0
1
-1
|
1
0
+1
|
|
1
0
+1
|
ngiN
DATH
|
1
0
+1
|
|
0
1
-1
|
|
0
1
-1
|
cacan
DATH
|
1
0
+1
|
1
0
+1
|
|
|
|
Reckeyy
Exal
|
Volte
Exal
|
Sco
Exal
|
MichelCastr0
Exal
|
SixK9
Exal
|
|
beyAz
DATH
|
0
1
-1
|
|
|
|
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Paz
DATH
|
1
0
+1
|
1
0
+1
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1
0
+1
|
1
0
+1
|
|
MAJ3R
DATH
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|
|
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ngiN
DATH
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cacan
DATH
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0
1
-1
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2K | 3K | 4K | 5K | 1v1 | 1v2 | 1v3 | 1v4 | 1v5 | ECON | PL | DE | ||
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beyAz
DATH
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1
Round 11
SixK9
Sco
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2
Round 6
MichelCastr0
SixK9
Volte
Round 15
Volte
SixK9
Sco
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|
|
|
|
|
|
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60
|
0
|
0
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cacan
DATH
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|
2
Round 4
Sco
Volte
Round 11
Volte
MichelCastr0
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1
Round 14
Reckeyy
SixK9
Sco
Volte
MichelCastr0
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1
Round 4
Sco
Volte
|
|
|
|
66
|
0
|
1
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Paz
DATH
|
|
2
Round 3
MichelCastr0
SixK9
Round 9
SixK9
Reckeyy
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2
Round 12
SixK9
Volte
Reckeyy
Round 16
Reckeyy
Sco
Volte
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
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74
|
1
|
0
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MAJ3R
DATH
|
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4
Round 5
MichelCastr0
Sco
Round 7
SixK9
Sco
Round 13
SixK9
Sco
Round 17
SixK9
Sco
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
74
|
3
|
1
|
ngiN
DATH
|
|
3
Round 3
Reckeyy
Volte
Round 5
Reckeyy
Volte
Round 12
MichelCastr0
Sco
|
|
|
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1
Round 7
Reckeyy
|
|
|
|
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44
|
3
|
0
|
MichelCastr0
Exal
|
|
1
Round 8
Paz
cacan
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
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27
|
0
|
0
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Sco
Exal
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2
Round 2
ngiN
cacan
Round 4
MAJ3R
ngiN
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
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38
|
0
|
0
|
Reckeyy
Exal
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|
1
Round 7
beyAz
MAJ3R
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
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23
|
1
|
0
|
SixK9
Exal
|
|
3
Round 2
beyAz
MAJ3R
Round 7
Paz
cacan
Round 16
ngiN
beyAz
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
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63
|
0
|
1
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Volte
Exal
|
|
2
Round 8
MAJ3R
beyAz
Round 10
ngiN
MAJ3R
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1
Round 1
ngiN
beyAz
cacan
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
41
|
1
|
1
|
Reckeyy
Exal
|
Volte
Exal
|
Sco
Exal
|
MichelCastr0
Exal
|
SixK9
Exal
|
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beyAz
DATH
|
5
0
+5
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5
2
+3
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2
5
-3
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3
2
+1
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3
1
+2
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Paz
DATH
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7
1
+6
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3
2
+1
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6
1
+5
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4
2
+2
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2
3
-1
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MAJ3R
DATH
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3
3
+0
|
3
0
+3
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2
1
+1
|
|
2
4
-2
|
ngiN
DATH
|
1
3
-2
|
2
3
-1
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2
2
+0
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6
2
+4
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5
2
+3
|
cacan
DATH
|
0
2
-2
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3
1
+2
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3
1
+2
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2
1
+1
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2
2
+0
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Reckeyy
Exal
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Volte
Exal
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Sco
Exal
|
MichelCastr0
Exal
|
SixK9
Exal
|
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beyAz
DATH
|
|
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1
1
+0
|
0
1
-1
|
1
0
+1
|
Paz
DATH
|
1
0
+1
|
1
0
+1
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1
0
+1
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1
0
+1
|
1
0
+1
|
MAJ3R
DATH
|
1
0
+1
|
|
|
|
|
ngiN
DATH
|
1
0
+1
|
|
1
0
+1
|
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1
1
+0
|
cacan
DATH
|
0
1
-1
|
|
0
1
-1
|
|
|
Reckeyy
Exal
|
Volte
Exal
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Sco
Exal
|
MichelCastr0
Exal
|
SixK9
Exal
|
|
beyAz
DATH
|
|
|
|
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Paz
DATH
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1
0
+1
|
2
0
+2
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2
0
+2
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3
0
+3
|
1
0
+1
|
MAJ3R
DATH
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ngiN
DATH
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cacan
DATH
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2K | 3K | 4K | 5K | 1v1 | 1v2 | 1v3 | 1v4 | 1v5 | ECON | PL | DE | ||
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beyAz
DATH
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2
Round 7
Volte
MichelCastr0
Round 11
Volte
Reckeyy
|
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2
Round 5
Reckeyy
Reckeyy
SixK9
Volte
Round 15
Sco
Volte
Reckeyy
MichelCastr0
|
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1
Round 8
Reckeyy
|
|
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|
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85
|
1
|
1
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cacan
DATH
|
|
3
Round 3
Volte
MichelCastr0
Round 5
MichelCastr0
Sco
Round 10
Sco
Volte
|
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1
Round 9
SixK9
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53
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0
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2
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Paz
DATH
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6
Round 3
Sco
Reckeyy
Round 4
Reckeyy
Sco
Round 7
Reckeyy
Sco
Round 12
SixK9
MichelCastr0
Round 13
Reckeyy
Sco
Round 16
Reckeyy
Volte
|
2
Round 1
Reckeyy
SixK9
MichelCastr0
Round 8
MichelCastr0
Sco
Volte
|
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128
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0
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0
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MAJ3R
DATH
|
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1
Round 11
SixK9
Sco
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1
Round 1
Volte
|
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47
|
0
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2
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ngiN
DATH
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3
Round 2
Sco
SixK9
Round 9
Volte
MichelCastr0
Round 13
MichelCastr0
SixK9
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1
Round 10
Reckeyy
SixK9
MichelCastr0
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57
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0
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0
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MichelCastr0
Exal
|
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2
Round 3
ngiN
Paz
Round 13
beyAz
cacan
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39
|
1
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0
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Sco
Exal
|
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3
Round 1
beyAz
Paz
Round 6
cacan
ngiN
Round 7
ngiN
beyAz
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52
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2
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0
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Reckeyy
Exal
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1
Round 11
MAJ3R
ngiN
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1
Round 8
Paz
ngiN
cacan
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45
|
1
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0
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SixK9
Exal
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4
Round 5
ngiN
Paz
Round 6
MAJ3R
Paz
Round 9
ngiN
beyAz
Round 14
Paz
MAJ3R
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59
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0
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0
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Volte
Exal
|
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1
Round 13
Paz
ngiN
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1
Round 13
ngiN
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28
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2
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0
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ValdemieGC [#1]beyAz with the tactical flag change so they participate in French qualifiers hehe
Anyway, they chose to compete in EU from start to finish even if it might be harder at the beginning. I respect them, this team will go big in the future.
I think it’s a dumb decision
Mortadelo [#2]I think it’s a dumb decision
I don't think it's dumb, but it's a risky one for sure. These guys are thinking really big. I'm rooting for them.
They could chose and try for Turkey whit 8 spots to qualify, surely an easier way to win some reputation in the scene. They instead chose a region where only 2 open spots are on the table.
I personally think this shows how determined and patient these guys are. They want to grow and learn as a team and they chose a harder scene to grind the game. I think this is better for the long term.
ValdemieGC [#3]I don't think it's dumb, but it's a risky one for sure. These guys are thinking really big. I'm rooting for them.
They could chose and try for Turkey whit 8 spots to qualify, surely an easier way to win some reputation in the scene. They instead chose a region where only 2 open spots are on the table.
I personally think this shows how determined and patient these guys are. They want to grow and learn as a team and they chose a harder scene to grind the game. I think this is better for the long term.
It can show whatever you want to think it shows. But first of all their fanbase is in Turkey, there is where they should be looking to, second of all is not like being on the French VRL is any better, at the end of the day the winner go to playoffs anyway, and they have a higher chance of making it to EMEA through Turkey.
I might be the dumb one but this has 0 advantages imo, actually I don’t even see them qualifying
Mortadelo [#4]It can show whatever you want to think it shows. But first of all their fanbase is in Turkey, there is where they should be looking to, second of all is not like being on the French VRL is any better, at the end of the day the winner go to playoffs anyway, and they have a higher chance of making it to EMEA through Turkey.
I might be the dumb one but this has 0 advantages imo, actually I don’t even see them qualifying
They should be looking for Turkey if they want fanbase, we both agree. But what makes you think that is what they want? I think it's pretty clear that it isn't their main priority
Being in the French VRL isn't probably much better than Turkish VRL (that's still debatable) but Turkish scene is way more closed to EU "niche" than French one is. French and Benelux teams are way more integrated within EU meta for obvious reasons than Turkish teams are. And if you want to become one of the best teams, EU scene is overall better than just TR scene just solely by the fact it is much much wider
They probably won't qualify, but again, I think they will be ok with that, they want to grind the scene. Like they did in VCT qualis
Mortadelo [#2]I think it’s a dumb decision
It's not dumb, they will have more ping. So it Can be a bonus for them
ValdemieGC [#1]beyAz with the tactical flag change so they participate in French qualifiers hehe
Anyway, they chose to compete in EU from start to finish even if it might be harder at the beginning. I respect them, this team will go big in the future.
Except for cacan, all the players live outside of Turkey and have dual passports. I wanted to inform
cripsy [#8]Except for cacan, all the players live outside of Turkey and have dual passports. I wanted to inform
oooh thats good to know and explains a lot of things, thank you
but still, they would be able to compete for VLR Turkey, correct? even with worse ping
ValdemieGC [#9]oooh thats good to know and explains a lot of things, thank you
but still, they would be able to compete for VLR Turkey, correct? even with worse ping
They played 50-70 ping in tr server when they were playing cs. So this time they don't wanna play with ping. That's the case.
Ensoski [#10]They played 50-70 ping in tr server when they were playing cs. So this time they don't wanna play with ping. That's the case.
fair enough
ValdemieGC [#1]beyAz with the tactical flag change so they participate in French qualifiers hehe
Anyway, they chose to compete in EU from start to finish even if it might be harder at the beginning. I respect them, this team will go big in the future.
Looks like they didn’t end up very well
Mortadelo [#12]Looks like they didn’t end up very well
no they didn't
i think they're still sticking to EU servers tho
ValdemieGC [#13]no they didn't
i think they're still sticking to EU servers tho
I guess they are, I guess they they know what they are doing.
Anyway they’ve switched recently, they need time, similar situation than Heretics if they didn’t have their spot already
ValdemieGC [#1]beyAz with the tactical flag change so they participate in French qualifiers hehe
Anyway, they chose to compete in EU from start to finish even if it might be harder at the beginning. I respect them, this team will go big in the future.
They can play in german league too because of ngin. And majer is half french too