Me:
S tier : gambit, acend
A tier: Smb, fnatic, liquid, guild
B-C tier: big, ldn utd, bbl, fpx
D tier: G2, navi
Slatko [#3]SMB tier A? G2 tier D? I don't agree with that
yeah exactly SMB and guild have changed so much cant really put them in A and i think g2 are better than ldn so id put them c
Origin [#6]yeah exactly SMB and guild have changed so much cant really put them in A and i think g2 are better than ldn so id put them c
The staff has changed, but the new smb may be stronger than the old one. I watched
Origin [#6]yeah exactly SMB and guild have changed so much cant really put them in A and i think g2 are better than ldn so id put them c
Tbh I haven't seen SMB but idk if they are that good to be in the same bracket as Fantic and Liquid, Guild has looked good with Kolda and the new signings, G2 also improved with Keloqz so I would put them in B-C tier.
Slatko [#10]Tbh I haven't seen SMB but idk if they are that good to be in the same bracket as Fantic and Liquid, Guild has looked good with Kolda and the new signings, G2 also improved with Keloqz so I would put them in B-C tier.
Yeah maybe bro
Respect :)
pssssss [#18]Seems fair but I don't agree with smb at A. I saw their games, they played good but to be placed in the same group as TL and Fnatic, they have to do a LOT more than that.
Smb for #8
I'm not watching G2
Bo0mShell [#15]Why is everyone putting Navi so low?
I know they won't qualify for playoffs but they won't be last in their group (that's just my opinion but correct me if I am missing something)
I dont watched cis bro. Idk
Zzizmo [#23]I know turkey is hyped for smb but they look like the same old team last year
they are weaker than last year, old players have higher individual skills than the new
S:
A:
B:
C:
My list is getting messed up somehow but it is in order so ignore numbers that dont make sense.
FerahgoTheGreat [#27]S:
- TL: Controversial, but I think they have the highest ceiling. I still think there are weak links, but they can beat anyone when they get in their rhythm.
- ACE: They have a tendency to be inconsistent. I still think a roster move could make them a superteam but they aren't one yet.
- GMB: They have been performing at their peak in my opinion. They shouldn't change anything but I don't think this roster will be dominant. Even in their Berlin quals/LANs they have rarely been dominant. The epitome of very good across the board.
A:
- G2: This roster has the pieces to be the best but until they put it together they will struggle. I think they need an IGL as hoody/nukkye are two of the best in the world, and everyone else is solid at their roles.
- Guild: Sayf and Leo are great, trexx is inconsistent on support but can pop off, this is the best level of strategy I've seen from a koldamenta led team (maybe Barrbarr's influence). As a Guild fan, they are a bit overhyped from rolling bad teams but they can become one of the best.
- FNC: They still lack firepower in my eyes. Derke showed the return to form, and this team is still some of the best at the non stats aspects of the game, but they do not have a whole lot of mechanical skill.
B:
- FPX: Not a single player has had consistent performances. They can definitely challenge any team but until they do so often rather than sporadically I put them here.
- SMB: This roster impressed me but I still don't think they are an improvement over the old SMB. I think Xistou has been by far the best sentinel in Turkey, and Izzy is still very good, but the bottom of the roster is quite weak fragging wise. Maybe CyderX's IGLing can work some magic against EU.
C:
- LDNU: They have become that standard top of tier 2 team that always challenges but rarely beats the good teams. Their consistency gives me hope but they are a bit outclassed here.
- BBL: Their roles are messy but if they put it together they have a good shot at being the best team in Turkey. This could easily fall apart though.
- NAVI: Jady was a huge pickup, but Cloud has struggled playing even more supportive. I think they are a move away from contention still.
- BIG: They have long struggled in tier 2 and have slowly upped their game. I still don't really believe in anyone but Twisten against the best teams.
My list is getting messed up somehow but it is in order so ignore numbers that dont make sense.
Hard agree, maybe BIG to B, but the rest is pretty accurate
valulrantefanboy [#25]they are weaker than last year, old players have higher individual skills than the new
but there is more team play than before
PrTsty [#35]so because Acend won champs they are better then GMB?
yes, how is that even an argument
kristof [#37]yes, how is that even an argument
u think acend will do better than gmb this year based on one close Bo5?
PrTsty [#39]u think acend will do better than gmb this year based on one close Bo5?
one close bo5? u forgot they 13-0d them right before champs? obviously they gonna do better cuz they already doing better
FerahgoTheGreat [#27]S:
- TL: Controversial, but I think they have the highest ceiling. I still think there are weak links, but they can beat anyone when they get in their rhythm.
- ACE: They have a tendency to be inconsistent. I still think a roster move could make them a superteam but they aren't one yet.
- GMB: They have been performing at their peak in my opinion. They shouldn't change anything but I don't think this roster will be dominant. Even in their Berlin quals/LANs they have rarely been dominant. The epitome of very good across the board.
A:
- G2: This roster has the pieces to be the best but until they put it together they will struggle. I think they need an IGL as hoody/nukkye are two of the best in the world, and everyone else is solid at their roles.
- Guild: Sayf and Leo are great, trexx is inconsistent on support but can pop off, this is the best level of strategy I've seen from a koldamenta led team (maybe Barrbarr's influence). As a Guild fan, they are a bit overhyped from rolling bad teams but they can become one of the best.
- FNC: They still lack firepower in my eyes. Derke showed the return to form, and this team is still some of the best at the non stats aspects of the game, but they do not have a whole lot of mechanical skill.
B:
- FPX: Not a single player has had consistent performances. They can definitely challenge any team but until they do so often rather than sporadically I put them here.
- SMB: This roster impressed me but I still don't think they are an improvement over the old SMB. I think Xistou has been by far the best sentinel in Turkey, and Izzy is still very good, but the bottom of the roster is quite weak fragging wise. Maybe CyderX's IGLing can work some magic against EU.
C:
- LDNU: They have become that standard top of tier 2 team that always challenges but rarely beats the good teams. Their consistency gives me hope but they are a bit outclassed here.
- BBL: Their roles are messy but if they put it together they have a good shot at being the best team in Turkey. This could easily fall apart though.
- NAVI: Jady was a huge pickup, but Cloud has struggled playing even more supportive. I think they are a move away from contention still.
- BIG: They have long struggled in tier 2 and have slowly upped their game. I still don't really believe in anyone but Twisten against the best teams.
My list is getting messed up somehow but it is in order so ignore numbers that dont make sense.
agree with this but fpx should be lower down because their performance against CIS teams were not that promising
kristof [#40]one close bo5? u forgot they 13-0d them right before champs? obviously they gonna do better cuz they already doing better
GMB was playing a random ass comp
kristof [#44]they used the same exact comp in champions as well
on Yinsu's stream Tanzihq said that Acend was the best team they scrimed as Giants (but its scrims so idk)
kristof [#46]bias gambit fanboy cant accept the fact that gambit is trash
cringe + im bias TL fanboy
Krychuu [#9]S- acend gambit TL
A - SMB fnatic guild
B- g2 ldn utd big
C- fpx bbl
D navi
no lol, ldn and g2 arent on bigs level. Move fnatic to b and g2 and ldn to c
kristof [#55]clapped by who? no one is even close to their level
GMB and TL will role them, lucky acend, they have the easy group
actually wait, Guild will roll acend aswell
PrTsty [#56]GMB and TL will role them, lucky acend, they have the easy group
actually wait, Guild will roll acend aswell
are u ok? Acend’s group is way more stacked than the other one. lulquid and gambot always get the easiest groups no joke. guild overrated af even gambot and lulquid will be able to beat them
Bo0mShell [#15]Why is everyone putting Navi so low?
I know they won't qualify for playoffs but they won't be last in their group (that's just my opinion but correct me if I am missing something)
Who do you think will be last then?
kristof [#37]yes, how is that even an argument
I mean gambit is pretty consistent I think they're better overall but acend is insane too
Syelf [#64]I mean gambit is pretty consistent I think they're better overall but acend is insane too
gambit is consistently getting lucky with groups and seeding