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PrTsty [#2]best player 2020 prove me wrong
Better players from NA
- TenZ
- yay
- leaf
- Crashies
- Vanity (as IGL)
- Asuna
- Ethan
- Nitr0
- zekken
Better Players from other regions
- nAts
- cNed
- d3ffo
- zeek
- starxo
- ScreaM
- nivera
- Jamppi
- lakia
- Buzz
there are tons of others but I think this is enough
SeaCDragon [#5]Better players from NA
- TenZ
- yay
- leaf
- Crashies
- Vanity (as IGL)
- Asuna
- Ethan
- Nitr0
- zekken
Better Players from other regions
- nAts
- cNed
- d3ffo
- zeek
- starxo
- ScreaM
- nivera
- Jamppi
- lakia
- Buzz
there are tons of others but I think this is enough
bro im talking about 2020, noone was on the same level as Sinatraa
Howard [#4]he was only good because everyone else was clueless about how to play against raze and sova at the time, cloud is better on both rolls
Lakia is better on both rolls is what I would say if I was a delusional lakia fan. Thankfully I am not so.
Leo is better on all roles, because he is simply built different. #GUILDWIN
Howard [#4]he was only good because everyone else was clueless about how to play against raze and sova at the time, cloud is better on both rolls
He still inspired others and had a complete different thinking of how to play the game, it was fun watching him while it lasted
PrTsty [#7]bro im talking about 2020, noone was on the same level as Sinatraa
Vision Strikers: I mean stax.... what else can I really say.
Also cNed, zeek, and nukkye were also really good players at that time. cNed not so much, but probably due to this being early experience for him. I think FPX were also really strong overall in 2020, I feel like zyppan and shao are pretty comparable to Sinatraa
Also Wardell first year, he was a really strong player. I think he was slightly above Sinatraa in overall value probably around that time due to meta and stuff.
Asphyxia [#8]Lakia is better on both rolls is what I would say if I was a delusional lakia fan. Thankfully I am not so.
Leo is better on all roles, because he is simply built different. #GUILDWIN
leo, cloud, zeek, h1ber, etc lots of better flex players then sinatra these days
PrTsty [#7]bro im talking about 2020, noone was on the same level as Sinatraa
back in 2020 ardiis was probably better
and a lot of people on the same level, tenz / ardiis / zyppann / wardell / mwzera / nukkye / Rb / takej for example
5headtakes [#12]People are only calling him overrated and diminishing his impact because of the allegations, everyone who watched valorant then knows Sinatraa was arguably the best player in NA at the time.
he was very good but people who act like he will be equally good if he started playing pro again are delusional
Howard [#13]leo, cloud, zeek, h1ber, etc lots of better flex players then sinatra these days
true. but who cars. #LEODIFF
Howard [#15]he was very good but people who act like he will be equally good if he started playing pro again are delusional
Yea I 100% agree he wouldn't be equally good, the game has changed so much since then.
Howard [#14]back in 2020 ardiis was probably better
and a lot of people on the same level, tenz / ardiis / zyppann / wardell / mwzera / nukkye / Rb / takej for example
Im talking about NA, its impossible to compare different regions when they never played. Also wardell wasnt close to Jay imo, only TenZ and Sick were up there
Howard [#15]he was very good but people who act like he will be equally good if he started playing pro again are delusional
I just wanna watch the dude play, he is just super creative
PrTsty [#19]I just wanna watch the dude play, he is just super creative
not really, he just spams utility and run and guns
no one else was doing it as much as him at the time
PrTsty [#18]Im talking about NA, its impossible to compare different regions when they never played. Also wardell wasnt close to Jay imo, only TenZ and Sick were up there
so cringe to call him jay. he's not your friend. end the parasocial relationship
Howard [#21]so cringe to call him jay. he's not your friend. end the parasocial relationship
Classic jay "jay" won
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