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Change Tournament Format

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#1
tonyhart7

we need double elimination format

so many underdog stories can happen in lower bracket

#2
JustEnjoying
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Well Kru doesn't need a Lower bracket apparently.
Seriously tho they won't do double elim cuz single elin is so much more intense.

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lower bracket is so bad
this will give chances to teams like fnatic and x10 when they don't deserve it
u have one chance go all out
if we have a Penta elimination bracket in the end emea or na will come on top coz of their experience
but this is way better format and not boring

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tonyhart7
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JustEnjoying [#2]

Well Kru doesn't need a Lower bracket apparently.
Seriously tho they won't do double elim cuz single elin is so much more intense.

dsnt need until they lose, double elimination is more good because team can learn each other plays

#5
NightBeam
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Round robin Bo3 >>>>> Group Stage
then Single elimination bo3 + bo5 in finals

Eziest the best format

#6
tonyhart7
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AkamiRosario [#3]

lower bracket is so bad
this will give chances to teams like fnatic and x10 when they don't deserve it
u have one chance go all out
if we have a Penta elimination bracket in the end emea or na will come on top coz of their experience
but this is way better format and not boring

in E-Sport experience isnt everything

in Every esports there are young players that win because their talent

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Sugma
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If you are the best team you don't need to go through the lower bracket, if you get upset by a minor region its because they were better

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RickyIndian
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JustEnjoying [#2]

Well Kru doesn't need a Lower bracket apparently.
Seriously tho they won't do double elim cuz single elin is so much more intense.

reduces the quality of games. (theoretically)

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RickyIndian
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NightBeam [#5]

Round robin Bo3 >>>>> Group Stage
then Single elimination bo3 + bo5 in finals

Eziest the best format

too many matches though

#10
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RickyIndian [#9]

too many matches though

its possible to do that in 2/3 weeks + everyone wants more matches.

Round Robin is the most competitive and thrilling format, coz 2-0, 2-1, 2-2, 1-2 and 0-2 matches are high stakes. Teams are "in the same level" in those matches

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tonyhart7
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NightBeam [#5]

Round robin Bo3 >>>>> Group Stage
then Single elimination bo3 + bo5 in finals

Eziest the best format

group stage then double elimination is the best

#12
i_need_NA_mommy
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Sugma [#7]

If you are the best team you don't need to go through the lower bracket, if you get upset by a minor region its because they were better

Nah bro, If you're a good team a minor team will study you, if you're a good team you don't have a chance to study a minor team because you're focusing in a good teams, so you will get slapped by a minor team because you're not expecting, that's what happened here.
FURIA studied well SEN (almost win) but lose to a way more worse team because they didn't studied them enough

#13
tonyhart7
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Sugma [#7]

If you are the best team you don't need to go through the lower bracket, if you get upset by a minor region its because they were better

its non sense there are difference best team with the team that never lose

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NightBeam
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tonyhart7 [#11]

group stage then double elimination is the best

Group stage is mostly based on luck in the draw.

Its inevitable the strongest teams face each other in round robin coz it has the 2-0 matches.

#15
JustEnjoying
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RickyIndian [#8]

reduces the quality of games. (theoretically)

How so?

#16
i_need_NA_mommy
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tonyhart7 [#13]

its non sense there are difference best team with the team that never lose

It's not CS
Valorant still not evolved like CS level to this be true.
Right now most of games are trying to counter enemy by picks, strats, etc.
CS if you're superior you don't even need to think to win against a bad team because you already mastered the fundamentals of the game (in Valorant nobody mastered anything yet)

#17
tonyhart7
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NightBeam [#14]

Group stage is mostly based on luck in the draw.

Its inevitable the strongest teams face each other in round robin coz it has the 2-0 matches.

nah its too long to make it round robin

it will be 3-4 week long because Valorant will expand more

#18
number_1_zombs_fan
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JustEnjoying [#15]

How so?

certain sides of the bracket could be more stacked than the other.

#19
tonyhart7
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i_need_NA_mommy [#16]

It's not CS
Valorant still not evolved like CS level to this be true.
Right now most of games are trying to counter enemy by picks, strats, etc.
CS if you're superior you don't even need to think to win against a bad team because you already mastered the fundamentals of the game (in Valorant nobody mastered anything yet)

in CS there a liltle change even None in META

Valorant is evolving, Meta changes, more agent and Map will be out soon
at this Rate It will like Moba FPS

#20
i_need_NA_mommy
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tonyhart7 [#19]

in CS there a liltle change even None in META

Valorant is evolving, Meta changes, more agent and Map will be out soon
at this Rate It will like Moba FPS

Yeah that's why I said it.
VALORANT changed meta, buffs, nerf, so many things also some good teams had very big ego during champions (Shah denied scrimming with KRU, KRU coach had to beg to him and he only accepted to scrim ONE MAP) Now he's even posting in twitter "Wow Kru is good" lol.
As you can see top teams didn't studied minor teams because thought they could win only by skill but minor teams studied hard so good teams got slapped, that's what happened.

#21
Mortadelo
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Which important esport has loser bracket in the final round of the major/ worlds whatever you wanna call it

#22
qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbn
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i_need_NA_mommy [#20]

Yeah that's why I said it.
VALORANT changed meta, buffs, nerf, so many things also some good teams had very big ego during champions (Shah denied scrimming with KRU, KRU coach had to beg to him and he only accepted to scrim ONE MAP) Now he's even posting in twitter "Wow Kru is good" lol.
As you can see top teams didn't studied minor teams because thought they could win only by skill but minor teams studied hard so good teams got slapped, that's what happened.

expected from shahz

#23
JustEnjoying
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number_1_zombs_fan [#18]

certain sides of the bracket could be more stacked than the other.

Well there is a reason why Seeding exists. This happens all the time. You just gotta beat everybody ESPECIALLY in an event like champs cuz this isn't a qualifier or something you gotta win the whole dang thing.

#24
tonyhart7
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i_need_NA_mommy [#20]

Yeah that's why I said it.
VALORANT changed meta, buffs, nerf, so many things also some good teams had very big ego during champions (Shah denied scrimming with KRU, KRU coach had to beg to him and he only accepted to scrim ONE MAP) Now he's even posting in twitter "Wow Kru is good" lol.
As you can see top teams didn't studied minor teams because thought they could win only by skill but minor teams studied hard so good teams got slapped, that's what happened.

thats why we need double elimination

ban/pick for agent will be definetely a thing in future

Imagine you lose to a team that practice for 1 year to defeat you
Yes you lose but its not lose for it all

#25
i_need_NA_mommy
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tonyhart7 [#24]

thats why we need double elimination

ban/pick for agent will be definetely a thing in future

Imagine you lose to a team that practice for 1 year to defeat you
Yes you lose but its not lose for it all

Yeah bro, relax.
Also we had no true LAN event yet, because LAN need a crowd, without crowd is meme.

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