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Why Champ Bundle is not that a big deal

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WONDERWEISS

500.000 Dollar for Teams who propably spent more than this for their Players, Bootcamp and some other luxuries Players got from their Orgs.

Also i see this as a compensation for those Orgs who paid their Players through many empty Competition free Months.

Will the Orgs share the Money with their Players? Propably not because they get already paid a lot and i personally see there no reason why an Org who took big risks by paying this much Money to Players who was barely known should share the Money they got. Would Players share their Money with their Orgs, if Riot would give the Money to the Players instead? Would someone think like "My Org who signed and believed in me and without them i wouldn't be here so i give them some of that Bundle Money"? Doubt that hard. Riot would win my Heart too if they would share the other half of the Bundle Money with the other LCQ contenders who couldn't make it.

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bruh the org uses the money to pay the players, its not money for the players, its to help orgs and make more orgs join
honestly they should bring in an esports shop like in RL. for example every big org from mulitple regions gets a banner, nametag, gunbuddy and phantom + vandal and you can always shop in that esports shop

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PrTsty [#2]

bruh the org uses the money to pay the players, its not money for the players, its to help orgs and make more orgs join
honestly they should bring in an esports shop like in RL. for example every big org from mulitple regions gets a banner, nametag, gunbuddy and phantom + vandal and you can always shop in that esports shop

This sounds awful. Imagine the unnecessary baits and trolls "Liquid Phantom/Vandal is like Aimbot hahahahaha" "Get rekt by NaVi Vandal"

Only thing i agree with Team Based stuff is a Banner. Skins? Please no.

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PrTsty [#2]

bruh the org uses the money to pay the players, its not money for the players, its to help orgs and make more orgs join
honestly they should bring in an esports shop like in RL. for example every big org from mulitple regions gets a banner, nametag, gunbuddy and phantom + vandal and you can always shop in that esports shop

Uh, as far as I know, orgs are supposed to have around a 20-80 split on any winnings the players get. 20 for the org. This is IF the player signed contracts properly. This is the norm that most experienced players say. So the money should be going to the players not the org. You have to understand that orgs don’t care THAT much about winning money and this money. It’s not world breaking or anything. Most orgs get the money from sponsors, so popularity matters more to them then winning prize money.

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This can be true for orgs in richer regions. However, for brazilians orgs that is certainly much more than they spend in the team. Taking VK, for example, i would be surprised if they invest more than 15k dolars per month on the entire Valorant operation, which includes coachs, bootcamps etc

EDIT: Im being super conservative on my analisis. From what a heard, the top 5 big salaries earn about 2k/2.5k dol and the avarage tier 1 pros earn about 1k/1.5k dol.

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Lanss [#4]

Uh, as far as I know, orgs are supposed to have around a 20-80 split on any winnings the players get. 20 for the org. This is IF the player signed contracts properly. This is the norm that most experienced players say. So the money should be going to the players not the org. You have to understand that orgs don’t care THAT much about winning money and this money. It’s not world breaking or anything. Most orgs get the money from sponsors, so popularity matters more to them then winning prize money.

The more Money an Org generate the more it can expand and that's the Goal here. Dominate as much Esports Games as you can and be a World Famous Org.

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Viktor22 [#5]

This can be true for orgs in richer regions. However, for brazilians orgs that is certainly much more than they spend in the team. Taking VK, for example, i would be surprised if they invest more than 15k dolars per month on the entire Valorant operation, which includes coachs, bootcamps etc

EDIT: Im being super conservative on my analisis. From what a heard, the top 5 big salaries earn about 2k/2.5k dol and the avarage tier 1 pros earn about 1k/1.5k dol.

That's something i wanted to mention too but i forgot. A Brazilian Player who would get around 100K Dollar would never have to work in his life again and he could afford a really good life with that Money if im not wrong. While a US or EU Player can just afford an awesome Car with that Money but not live in luxury.

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Your assumption is correct for EU and Na probably not of the rest of world

#9
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Did i ask tho

#10
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was good read until the last part. that part was the most trash and bad take . other bundle should be given to playoffs teams or semis or winners even will be much better take since they deserved since they are the best 8 teams in world or winners ( Gambit hopefully)

#11
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then why do people cry about prizepool being low for champions ?
500k is so much money for teams like x10, acend etc who are not big orgs

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ok_1_2_3 [#11]

then why do people cry about prizepool being low for champions ?
500k is so much money for teams like x10, acend etc who are not big orgs

Nobody thought the Champ Skins would generate this much. I have seen some People who predicted that would be just 5-6K to each Player at best.

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WONDERWEISS [#3]

This sounds awful. Imagine the unnecessary baits and trolls "Liquid Phantom/Vandal is like Aimbot hahahahaha" "Get rekt by NaVi Vandal"

Only thing i agree with Team Based stuff is a Banner. Skins? Please no.

who cares about trolls and baits wtf? just ingore it, its a great way to support ORGs + you can show who you support

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Lanss [#4]

Uh, as far as I know, orgs are supposed to have around a 20-80 split on any winnings the players get. 20 for the org. This is IF the player signed contracts properly. This is the norm that most experienced players say. So the money should be going to the players not the org. You have to understand that orgs don’t care THAT much about winning money and this money. It’s not world breaking or anything. Most orgs get the money from sponsors, so popularity matters more to them then winning prize money.

thats price money, as far as im aware the skin money is only for orgs, which makes sense, also 500k is a big deal for all non NA/EU teams, u can basically pay the team for 2 years with that money if every player earns 50k a year

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Pretty sure org main income not from prizepool. Org got a lot of way for income like merch, sponsor, player streaming revenue, etc

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WONDERWEISS [#7]

That's something i wanted to mention too but i forgot. A Brazilian Player who would get around 100K Dollar would never have to work in his life again and he could afford a really good life with that Money if im not wrong. While a US or EU Player can just afford an awesome Car with that Money but not live in luxury.

Actually, if you consider that hes alone, he can live well if he has about 200k dol. Isnt a luxury lifestyle, but he can live well. For have a more luxuries lifestyle, you would need about 700k dollars. Once you consider to sustent a family, this becomes more case dependent

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WONDERWEISS [#7]

That's something i wanted to mention too but i forgot. A Brazilian Player who would get around 100K Dollar would never have to work in his life again and he could afford a really good life with that Money if im not wrong. While a US or EU Player can just afford an awesome Car with that Money but not live in luxury.

100k in Brazil doesnt make someone a millionare, not even close actually.Ofc for a lot of people on poverty it would be a life changer opportunity, with the right investments and shit, but isnt luxury at all. A medium apartment in Rio or São Paulo is 5x times that. With real's value decreasing, 100k might not even garantee a luxury car aswell. Dont get me wrong, it's a shitton of money, but they would still need to work

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leleuu [#17]

100k in Brazil doesnt make someone a millionare, not even close actually.Ofc for a lot of people on poverty it would be a life changer opportunity, with the right investments and shit, but isnt luxury at all. A medium apartment in Rio or São Paulo is 5x times that. With real's value decreasing, 100k might not even garantee a luxury car aswell. Dont get me wrong, it's a shitton of money, but they would still need to work

the 70K USD from the bundle has a value of around 166k USD in Brazil, due to differences in price level and more. That's naturally not enough to live a lifetime, but it is a very large amount either way

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I wonder if they will do like League of Legends. and make the winners' skins after Champs. Pretty cool bonus to the winning org for those sales too i believe

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leleuu
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queueK [#18]

the 70K USD from the bundle has a value of around 166k USD in Brazil, due to differences in price level and more. That's naturally not enough to live a lifetime, but it is a very large amount either way

i dont think they will convert like that though, they might have collected all from all regions and are distributing equally.

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