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TractorBrrr

Why is peak viewership so low for Champions even during Sen vs EU matches? Masters hit 800+k during the group stage itself

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Because G2 made great banter and hyped everyone for the match

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True 800k was for G2-Sen rivalry rest finals only had 690k peak viewers. Champions finals would have more for sure.

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really making me miss g2 :(

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If I am not wrong at some point yesterday it was about 600k

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768 k

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709K was the peak bro
SEN VS LIQ
https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/valorant-champions-2021

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That's still great while not playing on stage
felt like a regional playoff game

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Because this game was all hype and no quality. Hype is temporary, class is forever. I won't go into detail as to why this is happening, I've been preaching about Riot's wrongdoings and how inevitable this situation was. Nobody heard me. Believe me, it only goes down from here if the community and riot continue doing such a shit job.

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TractorBrrr

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eggsplain pls

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hekzy

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It's been a year and a half and we have the shittiest circuit ever. You have teams waiting SEVEN MONTHS to play another game, orgs are gonna leave after this event.

Moreover, you wait 3 months to watch any actual tournament and what do you see?

The most garbage production ever. Constant tech pauses. No crowd. Garbage analysts. Garbage casters. Garbage spectators. And to top it all off, A UI THAT HASN'T BEEN WORKING FOR THE PAST 1.5 YEARS.

Valorant also has a prestige problem. The viewership depends on popular streamers and egirls rather than great competition. The teams don't even care about winning, they are all streamer teams, they care about which 10 minute haha cringe video will get the most views on youtube.

Then you have the level of competition. The scene is infested with fucking bots like zombs who wouldn't even reach MGE in CSGO and other washed bellends with big egos. And then you ask of people to prefer watching this imbecilic bunch instead of literally any top300 team in CS?

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this KEKWWWWW

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riot has worse decision making than my 7 year old cousin and doesnt use circuit points for masters qualification instead they use a 4 day tournament to determine who goes to.the biggest events and who wont be playing for 3 months

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I think most of your points are valid, especially how even after all the crazy good cinematic trailers and everything, riot hasn't been able to create a usable in-game HUD.

I'd also add that riot has always catered to the casual audience and player base more, who don't care what is good and what is bad competition. New maps and agents are added every 3 months, existing agents have huge changes; this changes the meta constantly. We have a situation where a team that destroys everyone in one international event doesn't even qualify for the next one because the meta change was not in their favour.
This means that we very rarely see high-level, even matches on international lans; because most regions have different comps/meta working for them. The level of competition is higher when watching intra region tournaments like LCQ.

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I agree. Can't help but compare this to IEM Winter when that tournament feels more like a real competition. Asides from Tyloo, all teams that joined are among the strongest and most competitive you can get despite Navi not joining. Even BIG and Godsent are playing really well. Champions just feels like exhibition matches between region representatives lol.

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true, +1

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Riot is doing everything they can , eSport scene need time to grow organically. Its only 1 year Esport. SEN right now is most popular, we need more popular teams , Gambit Nats become more popular after Masters 2, so If more good teams, more popular player, viewership will keep growing. You can't expect 1 year old eSport have instantly 2m viewership. This is not Battle Royale

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TractorBrrr

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idc about total viewership. I'm asking how can champions perform worse than Berlin

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Because first was hype, watched by other audience from COD, CS, LoL,. Now its organic

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2-3 big tournaments a year
Whereas CS has a big event almost every 2 month's
Obviously there won't be any hype when we have no tournament for half of the year

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Bro all the matches are outperforming the berlin finals
G2 shit-talking got people tuned in to see that match
Also this prac game might make the games less appealing to casual viewers
A tourney with 700k peak or more every day is actually insane for a year long esport

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prac game in the sense playing from practice rooms

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hekzy

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Dude. Once these washed ex csgo/overwatch players become washed in this game the viewership will drop to 0.

If it wasn't for these bots already having a following this game wouldn't be anything. And once they leave it won't.

You can see it with every passing tournament. More and more uknown (valorant born) talent rises. We get less washed csgo bots in the events. We get less viewers. This is a confirmed trend.

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no more hype

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hype for va LUL rant is gone

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The problem could be the odd times that these matches are scheduled
Most of SA and SEA are asleep, it's too late for EU and early for NA

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Lots of potential EU viewers watching IEM

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If Champions finals don't do better than Iceland finals its a really bad sign imo.

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TractorBrrr

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I think finals will overperform unless it is same region teams.
That's because valorant still has a pretty big casual fanbase.

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I think the finals are gonna do reasonably well because of the drop but I still fear if it will beat Iceland unless SEN make it to finals.

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the schedule is not good for South Asia, SEA, and JP fans

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tru... hopefully with TS and CR being the first match, we'll see 700k+ viewers.

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Timezones bruh. If sen vs liq was a bit early it wouldve reach 1M+ viewers. One question were u up the whole time of SEN vs TL?

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TractorBrrr

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ye i have a fucked up schedule I sleep at like 4 lul

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ReZist

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it was tough man, I assume you are indian coz of the flag. The match went on till 3am, and my fricking board exams are on XD

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TractorBrrr

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gl for maths mens )

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quite simple tbh
competing with popular teams at IEM playing at same time
completely ass backwards schedule
not much hype for the biggest event that has no crowd and the same ceremony as masters

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TractorBrrr

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IEM winter is a small tourney which I think hasn't even crossed 200k peak anyway. Compare that to ESL pro league which was competing with Masters Berlin, and was a higher tier tourney.
I agree about the ceremony and crowd thing. Riot really fucked up by not making Champions a crowd event, or at least changing the studio design.

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bcuz brainded rito put the game in asia’s morning time

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It is what happens when the game almost completely relies on streamers to sustain. Once a new fps game grabs all the attention from the streamers its a done deal.