bro it is really simple. you can NOT use bug. and because of using this bug VGIA was warned once by riot games itself. even tough VK knows all of this they have still used bug and see the all players in site 6 times and they say they are right. really hilarious.
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Bo0mShell [#4]Riot isn't right with their decision either.
Br fans just sad bcuz riot decides to just give Acend the match cuz of a bugged camera
They gave them 4 rounds that they lost and 1 economic disparity bonus which takes their score to 13. It definitely is not the best of decisions tbh a rematch should have been better but Riot has penalized 2 teams in a similar manner previously for using that bug so not penalising VK and just a rematch would have been pretty hypocritical by Riot
Bo0mShell [#4]Riot isn't right with their decision either.
Br fans just sad bcuz riot decides to just give Acend the match cuz of a bugged camera
not just gave them. They have given the rounds to Acend in which vivo keyd used bug. And thats so much fair I think
Bo0mShell [#4]Riot isn't right with their decision either.
Br fans just sad bcuz riot decides to just give Acend the match cuz of a bugged camera
Yeah you're delusional if you think the cypher cam glitch was ok, even seen a couple people on here say that "he didnt know" (typical copium) but yeah its hard to know which way the game would've gone without the cam, after watchin the clips, it did give away so much info, they knew every single time which site they were gonna attack so they had time to set-up for it, anyways, play stupid games win stupid prizes
PAPApred8r [#6]VK was wrong using the expoilt ,
but what RITO did was shittier .
They should have given a rematch for that map .
That would have been hypocritical and against the rules of the tournament. It's a competitive integrity clause that all the rounds in which a known bug is exploited will be forfeited. If they would have given a rematch that would make people question why VGIA and X10 were penalized for this
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Bo0mShell [#5]Also VGIA started with a map loss next match I believe.
Why not same here? Cuz riot favor Eu rather than Br?
riot had already warned two teams before that. it is now right to do this as 3rd time.
Dest1ny [#9]Yeah you're delusional if you think the cypher cam glitch was ok, even seen a couple people on here say that "he didnt know" (typical copium) but yeah its hard to know which way the game would've gone without the cam, after watchin the clips, it did give away so much info, they knew every single time which site they were gonna attack so they had time to set-up for it, anyways, play stupid games win stupid prizes
I'm definitely not saying it was ok, hell nah. But the penalty was wrong.
Thay could've started with a map loss next match
TmhariMummy [#10]That would have been hypocritical and against the rules of the tournament. It's a competitive integrity clause that all the rounds in which a known bug is exploited will be forfeited. If they would have given a rematch that would make people question why VGIA and X10 were penalized for this
Well why not same penalty
Bo0mShell [#5]Also VGIA started with a map loss next match I believe.
Why not same here? Cuz riot favor Eu rather than Br?
Because vgia would have won that map anyways also it was opens
Bo0mShell [#15]Well why not same penalty
It is a lighter penalty tbh ....for VGIA they started the next game with a map loss. For VK tbh they forefeited only the rounds in which they used the glitch that's 4 and 1 (Eco Disparity) that makes it 5. 13-8 score
8+5 = 13
Acend was given the map
Bo0mShell [#14]I'm definitely not saying it was ok, hell nah. But the penalty was wrong.
Thay could've started with a map loss next match
Nope, the decision is fair. They're lucky it's not a ground for disqualification.
TmhariMummy [#19]It is a lighter penalty tbh ....for VGIA they started the next game with a map loss. For VK tbh they forefeited only the rounds in which they used the glitch that's 4 and 1 (Eco Disparity) that makes it 5. 13-8 score
8+5 = 13
Acend was given the map
Are you saying just sending them in lower brackets is lighter than starting next match 0-1 against Envy?
Squrriel [#8]not just gave them. They have given the rounds to Acend in which vivo keyd used bug. And thats so much fair I think
And an extra round just to complete 13 rounds instead completing it. Now is that fair too?
Crystalzer0 [#23]VK needs to be punished for that, as iirc, VGIA got a match loss and X10 even got a disqualification for the same. But let’s face it, we’re on some heavy copium if we think Acend deserve that win
No VGIA started next match with map loss.
I agree with last line
Bo0mShell [#21]Are you saying just sending them in lower brackets is lighter than starting next match 0-1 against Envy?
Well VK just has to beat X10 and get their revenge from cNED and friends which I'm sure they are capable of. As for the Glitch, the ruling was by the books. VGIA wasn't disqualified for that glitch cz it wasn't ever used before that tournament and they were given the benefit of doubt.
Bo0mShell [#14]I'm definitely not saying it was ok, hell nah. But the penalty was wrong.
Thay could've started with a map loss next match
Hell nah, they used the cam against Acend not Envy
TmhariMummy [#26]Well VK just has to beat X10 and get their revenge from cNED and friends which I'm sure they are capable of. As for the Glitch, the ruling was by the books. VGIA wasn't disqualified for that glitch cz it wasn't ever used before that tournament and they were given the benefit of doubt.
I swear to god if riot does something to Br teams for third time people are gonna be pissed
Bo0mShell [#5]Also VGIA started with a map loss next match I believe.
Why not same here? Cuz riot favor Eu rather than Br?
Same punishment that was given to X10 idk why its different with VGIA though
dapada [#30]Same punishment that was given to X10 idk why its different with VGIA though
Cuz riot favor Eu
Bo0mShell [#29]I swear to god if riot does something to Br teams for third time people are gonna be pissed
Lol seriously....I just hope nothing happens for Riot to do a tech Pause or some shit 🥶🥶
Bo0mShell [#5]Also VGIA started with a map loss next match I believe.
Why not same here? Cuz riot favor Eu rather than Br?
because VGIA did it the first time, x10 also did it after VGIA in sea challengers 3 playoff and was also penalized the same as vivo keyd
defendercf [#33]because VGIA did it the first time, x10 also did it after VGIA in sea challengers 3 playoff and was also penalized the same as vivo keyd
Yeah I'm just mad rn nothing else.
I just want to see VK qualify nothing else
Bo0mShell [#34]Yeah I'm just mad rn nothing else.
I just want to see VK qualify nothing else
As much as I want Acend to qualify I'm pretty sure VK will
Bo0mShell [#31]Cuz riot favor Eu
nah after a decent amount of reading, VGIA was the first to use it so they were given the benefits of the doubt.
Bo0mShell [#14]I'm definitely not saying it was ok, hell nah. But the penalty was wrong.
Thay could've started with a map loss next match
How is that fair tho? They won a game using a glitch and now they get to move forward in the tournament?(even thought they'd prob get blasted by NV), maybe the most fair decision would've been to replay the match starting 12-8 in favour of acend but VK would most likely lose that and i dont think Riot wants that to happen either
Dest1ny [#37]How is that fair tho? They won a game using a glitch and now they get to move forward in the tournament?(even thought they'd prob get blasted by NV), maybe the most fair decision would've been to replay the match starting 12-8 in favour of acend but VK would most likely lose that and i dont think Riot wants that to happen either
Yeah don't care. Just don't give away a game
I just don't get why they paused the game instantly when they thought Furia was using an exploit (Haven jump on C) - that actually wasn't an exploit. But when they see an actual exploit being used, they don't pause at all, in my opinion they should be consistent about this.
Tbh I'm only kind of mad because when the cam was used for the first time the game was 8-4, and during the entire match the camera was only used twice, on the 9-4 for Keyd (Eco for Acend) and on the 12-7 (Eco for Keyd that they lost), and the cam wasn't even a key element for winning any of those round - the other 4 round the cam was there but wasn't at all, no even to check if A site was completly clear or if someone was about to flank.
MilanTheMyth [#2]Exactly, VGIA used the same bug and was penalized
X10 used cam exploit and also got penalty.
no excuses.
Still shit ruling by riot + fix the bug if its in your game for 5 months and you already punished several team because of it
PrTsty [#40]Still shit ruling by riot + fix the bug if its in your game for 5 months and you already punished several team because of it
How hard it is to win a match without using a bug though?🤔
Navegazz [#39]I just don't get why they paused the game instantly when they thought Furia was using an exploit (Haven jump on C) - that actually wasn't an exploit. But when they see an actual exploit being used, they don't pause at all, in my opinion they should be consistent about this.
Tbh I'm only kind of mad because when the cam was used for the first time the game was 8-4, and during the entire match the camera was only used twice, on the 9-4 for Keyd (Eco for Acend) and on the 12-7 (Eco for Keyd that they lost), and the cam wasn't even a key element for winning any of those round - the other 4 round the cam was there but wasn't at all, no even to check if A site was completly clear or if someone was about to flank.
The Furia one was more of a visible one while this cam bug ....they needed to review it which means an hour or 2 of tec pause
Navegazz [#39]I just don't get why they paused the game instantly when they thought Furia was using an exploit (Haven jump on C) - that actually wasn't an exploit. But when they see an actual exploit being used, they don't pause at all, in my opinion they should be consistent about this.
Tbh I'm only kind of mad because when the cam was used for the first time the game was 8-4, and during the entire match the camera was only used twice, on the 9-4 for Keyd (Eco for Acend) and on the 12-7 (Eco for Keyd that they lost), and the cam wasn't even a key element for winning any of those round - the other 4 round the cam was there but wasn't at all, no even to check if A site was completly clear or if someone was about to flank.
If Riot just didn't actually see Keyd using the exploit, than starting 0-1 against Envy would be pretty fair, purely because of the minimal role the cam had in that game.
Navegazz [#43]If Riot just didn't actually see Keyd using the exploit, than starting 0-1 against Envy would be pretty fair, purely because of the minimal role the cam had in that game.
Yea but the penalty for the bug was decided before the tournament and VK most probably knew about the penalty
TmhariMummy [#42]The Furia one was more of a visible one while this cam bug ....they needed to review it which means an hour or 2 of tec pause
I doesn't take 2 hours, it takes to minutes to check Jhow's POV and see if that he was using was indeed an exploit - an the first time I saw the it I knew it was the bugged cam, so I think Riot should also be able to do so.
PrTsty [#40]Still shit ruling by riot + fix the bug if its in your game for 5 months and you already punished several team because of it
it's true that acend did not deserve to win the match, but abusing a bug consistently 6 rounds consecutively and blaming riot for not fixing the bug also saying that "we would have won with cam in our pocket" is a little bit annoying and hypocrite. 1head move on the side of vk imo,
Navegazz [#45]I doesn't take 2 hours, it takes to minutes to check Jhow's POV and see if that he was using was indeed an exploit - an the first time I saw the it I knew it was the bugged cam, so I think Riot should also be able to do so.
Dapr used a very similar can on Breeze but it wasn't a bug as it was placed a lil to the side. Guess they decided to review after the match
TmhariMummy [#44]Yea but the penalty for the bug was decided before the tournament and VK most probably knew about the penalty
Jhow said that he didn't have a clue, of course he could be lying but I doubt that if he knew what happened to teams that used the cam in the past he'd actually use it in an international event.
TmhariMummy [#41]How hard it is to win a match without using a bug though?🤔
harder then actually fixing the bug, if it was any other tournament the punishment is perfectly fine, but the industry that is to incompetant to fix bugs looks really cringe when they try to punish someone
PrTsty [#49]harder then actually fixing the bug, if it was any other tournament the punishment is perfectly fine, but the industry that is to incompetant to fix bugs looks really cringe when they try to punish someone
Well no other team needed the bug tho
Navegazz [#48]Jhow said that he didn't have a clue, of course he could be lying but I doubt that if he knew what happened to teams that used the cam in the past he'd actually use it in an international event.
KRU's coach said that they were given the info before about the known bugs and exploits and the cam was in it. I don't think the dude's lying but ig he might have missed it
PrTsty [#40]Still shit ruling by riot + fix the bug if its in your game for 5 months and you already punished several team because of it
VK deserved a punishment equivalent to that of Giants or X10 but i dont think Acend shouldve been given a free win
PrTsty [#49]harder then actually fixing the bug, if it was any other tournament the punishment is perfectly fine, but the industry that is to incompetant to fix bugs looks really cringe when they try to punish someone
any other tournament KEKW other teams used it in different tournaments and got penalised for it. I agree it should have been fixed but that is no excuse
ciro [#52]VK deserved a punishment equivalent to that of Giants or X10 but i dont think Acend shouldve been given a free win
I mean the giants punishment was shit because the other team didnt get anything back for getting bug abused on, they shouldve just replayed the third map
ciro [#52]VK deserved a punishment equivalent to that of Giants or X10 but i dont think Acend shouldve been given a free win
Actually true decicion because this is champions (MAJOR) riot should be harder and clearer. Also x10 got the same punishment for doing this exploit?
TmhariMummy [#51]KRU's coach said that they were given the info before about the known bugs and exploits and the cam was in it. I don't think the dude's lying but ig he might have missed it
I like how you reply the way the person said it.
Nuturn_Faker [#53]any other tournament KEKW other teams used it in different tournaments and got penalised for it. I agree it should have been fixed but that is no excuse
Riot is just a shitshow, they had 6 rounds to tell the players to STOP using that bug, what do they do knstead? They tell an other team they shouldnt use a non-bug and take out all their momentum
Thats like playing football, u foul 30 people and after the match, 10 hours later, u get punished for it
TmhariMummy [#42]The Furia one was more of a visible one while this cam bug ....they needed to review it which means an hour or 2 of tec pause
??? how you can say that? the cam appeared on the transmission.
PrTsty [#57]Riot is just a shitshow, they had 6 rounds to tell the players to STOP using that bug, what do they do knstead? They tell an other team they shouldnt use a non-bug and take out all their momentum
Thats like playing football, u foul 30 people and after the match, 10 hours later, u get punished for it
no its like using an ilegible player and then getting penalised after the game for it which is what always happens in those instances. No excuses
TmhariMummy [#51]KRU's coach said that they were given the info before about the known bugs and exploits and the cam was in it. I don't think the dude's lying but ig he might have missed it
If that's actually true and the cam was on it, than I change my mind, if he missed it it's still his responsability - Pro players don't have to know everything that happens around the world like the X10 or VGIA situation but if it's explained to you and they show the actual things you can't do than fair enough.
Still think they should've paused, but if that's actually true than the punishment was fair.
Bo0mShell [#22]And an extra round just to complete 13 rounds instead completing it. Now is that fair too?
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Nuturn_Faker [#60]no its like using an ilegible player and then getting penalised after the game for it which is what always happens in those instances. No excuses
riot was watching them "cheating" and didnt stop it, if they went in first time they used it, said stop or even took away that round, that wouldve been perfectly fine, but riot is fking incompetent, but yeah no excuses for the VK players, still riot handled that situation poorly
Bo0mShell [#24]No VGIA started next match with map loss.
I agree with last line
because they were the first to do it they didn't know
X10 and vivo keyd did know
newbie [#46]it's true that acend did not deserve to win the match, but abusing a bug consistently 6 rounds consecutively and blaming riot for not fixing the bug also saying that "we would have won with cam in our pocket" is a little bit annoying and hypocrite. 1head move on the side of vk imo,
ok então so remover a vitoria da sentinels tb que usou a msm camera vcs tão tratando isso como fosse algo insolado que piada
Fagner427 [#66]ok então so remover a vitoria da sentinels tb que usou a msm camera vcs tão tratando isso como fosse algo insolado que piada
yes
Bo0mShell [#4]Riot isn't right with their decision either.
Br fans just sad bcuz riot decides to just give Acend the match cuz of a bugged camera
Bro sending death threats to opposing teams players (who has nothing to do with the situation) /= being "sad"
Squrriel [#8]not just gave them. They have given the rounds to Acend in which vivo keyd used bug. And thats so much fair I think
ok, so pls answer me why riot gave them 6 rounds if they had won 3 of the 6 rounds that jhow used the camera?
PrTsty [#63]riot was watching them "cheating" and didnt stop it, if they went in first time they used it, said stop or even took away that round, that wouldve been perfectly fine, but riot is fking incompetent, but yeah no excuses for the VK players, still riot handled that situation poorly
"but yeah no excuses for the VK players, still riot handled that situation poorly" agreed
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