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Champions day 2 leaderboard

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#1
number1_ScreaM_fan

1 Vision Strikers 39 10 29
2 Team Liquid 39 13 26
3 Vikings 39 17 22
4 Gambit esports 32 19 13
5 Sentinels 36 31 5
6 Fnatic 38 36 2
7 Cloud 9 Blue 36 38 -2
8 FURIA 31 36 -5
9 Team Secret 19 32 -13
10 Crazy Raccoons 17 39 -22
11 KRU esports 13 39 -26
12 FULL SENSE 10 39 -29
13 Acend 0 0 0
14 Keyd Stars 0 0 0
15 Envy 0 0 0
16 x10 CRIT 0 0 0
link to full sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10a2A6k0TGRnlLaeMPhCpFZUjyXuWU66kRA9GbK0pMgw/edit?usp=sharing

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What is this rating?

#3
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I'm so excited for VK vs ACE man I really hope it doesn't end in a blowout

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for those who dont understand, its rounds for - rounds against to calculate score

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manca [#4]

for those who dont understand, its rounds for - rounds against to calculate score

yeah so the less rounds you lose the higher you are

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manca [#4]

for those who dont understand, its rounds for - rounds against to calculate score

Oh I see

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wedqatwrtgehge [#3]

I'm so excited for VK vs ACE man I really hope it doesn't end in a blowout

I have VKS winning in my pickems Copium

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what is this supposed to tell us exactly? lost less rounds = better ?

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number1_ScreaM_fan [#5]

yeah so the less rounds you lose the higher you are

What's the point in adding an additional 13-0 if the series ended in a 2-0? It's just inflating the stats and making the stats look better for some teams and harsh for others.

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ohhh
This is rounds won - rounds lost - difference

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how does VS and TL have 39, they didn't play 3 maps? just give a ratio of rounds for/rounds against.

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jblancard [#8]

what is this supposed to tell us exactly? lost less rounds = better ?

yes and as matches progress on you will have a better idea of how teams will do in playoffs

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shyftnot [#11]

how does VS and TL have 39, they didn't play 3 maps? just give a ratio of rounds for/rounds against.

the third map is counted as a 13-0

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number1_ScreaM_fan [#13]

the third map is counted as a 13-0

feel like that's a bit unfair because KRU and FS were not gonna get 13-0 but you know it's whateva...

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number1_ScreaM_fan [#7]

I have VKS winning in my pickems Copium

I have them winning in lowers against ACE with NV going into playoffs as #1 seed, straight HOPIUM from me on it though since cNed will prob drop 100 on VKs head

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HIROSHIMA [#9]

What's the point in adding an additional 13-0 if the series ended in a 2-0? It's just inflating the stats and making the stats look better for some teams and harsh for others.

I think it's because he doesn't have a calculation to give teams going for 3 maps a negative rating compared to teams who won 2 straight maps.
A team could win 13-0 11-13 13-0, and he'd have 37 rounds won 13 rounds lost. Would still have lost a map, but would statistically be better than liquid, or vikings.

It is a flawed study tbh. I guess It's just a way to even it out, so people getting 2-0 get the advantage of the extra rounds.

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shyftnot [#14]

feel like that's a bit unfair because KRU and FS were not gonna get 13-0 but you know it's whateva...

I think it's to even it out, for if a team goes 13-0 121-13 13-0 in a bo3. They'd be rated higher than teams who won 2-0 without losing a map.

Not perfect, but I guess it puts everyone on even ground.

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detailed information, expected from scream fan

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coguyy [#18]

detailed information, expected from scream fan

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Raevus [#17]

I think it's to even it out, for if a team goes 13-0 121-13 13-0 in a bo3. They'd be rated higher than teams who won 2-0 without losing a map.

Not perfect, but I guess it puts everyone on even ground.

yeah thats what i had realised when i first tried to make it

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number1_ScreaM_fan [#20]

yeah thats what i had realised when i first tried to make it

I guess another way you could work on it, by giving maps played a multiplyer.

So each map played, lowers the multiplyer. So 2 maps is a x1 multiplyer, so 13 rounds won = 13 points. the third map being played, could be a .75 multiplyer.

so 10 rounds would equal 7.5points, instead of 10, etc. or even decrease the multiplier even more. Just a way so playing a third map would always lead to less points than only playing 2.

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Raevus [#21]

I guess another way you could work on it, by giving maps played a multiplyer.

So each map played, lowers the multiplyer. So 2 maps is a x1 multiplyer, so 13 rounds won = 13 points. the third map being played, could be a .75 multiplyer.

so 10 rounds would equal 7.5points, instead of 10, etc. or even decrease the multiplier even more. Just a way so playing a third map would always lead to less points than only playing 2.

thats actually smart ill try that

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