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LEV & Demon1

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Hyunboong

It's so frustrating that teams are signing players to 2026 contracts, and benching/releasing them months after signing the contract. We've seen this time and time again in VCT. I believe it's Germany, could be wrong, that has a law where if a player is released before the contract ends, the org has to pay them out the remaining of their contract. There is no stability for these players. I really think that Riot needs to take this issue more seriously.

#2
ynuser
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Are u hynix

#3
Hyunboong
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no?

#4
NRGSUPERFAN
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but like

just be good enough no?

#5
mulyondoindon
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at least, as an org, don't become a jerk to your talent.

I know any org give a good opportunity within their contacts (with sponsorship, ads, and big salary). Which is why they wants their players to always on great performances.
But they forgot that as a human, even them the HR or higher position, can have a bad day/week/month/season.
They need to remember it also applied to their athletes/pro-players.

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NRGSUPERFAN
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so they should keep playing their dogshit players? this is a bad argument lol

this is not football or traditional sports. you dont have many games to turn around your season.

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askrial
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yes they should. they made a gamble, were wrong, and you get fucked. your fault.

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n1Lf
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boohoo too bad ur not a org owner, once you get a team and end up like furia. let us know how it worked out the end

#12
mulyondoindon
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maybe they need to learn from other successful org?

#13
n1Lf
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start your own org, dont be whining on VLR

#15
mulyondoindon
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no one's whining. We're giving our take about how unfortunate Demon1 and Lev situation is.
What a stupid response from you rn

#16
n1Lf
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your favorite player got dropped because he couldnt perform on 2 differen't teams, like i said. start your own org and employe him otherwise stop whining

#17
mulyondoindon
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I suppose this is the level of discussion for Lev fans

#26
askrial
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i'm not even complaining. i'm just sayin that if you were sure that a player would have been good, and then sign then to a multiyear contract, you should get punished if they're shit.

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aurafarmer
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They do get fucked. First, they paid a buyout fee that just becomes useless; next, they miss out on prize money in tournaments and general marketing harm for not being good and its a contract termination, there are punishments for terminating a contract as stated in the contract if demon1 just signed a contract allowing him to be paid for no money at all that is his loss.

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askrial
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^ yeah. this is good. we need this. yeah it's bad for the player, but the org needs to be punished.

#28
NRGSUPERFAN
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has to be rage bait

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askrial
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ok, if i'm ragebaiting, then what's your ideal situation?

#8
mulyondoindon
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no. Don't jail your players with contract jail. That's what I meant.

Most orgs see the players as an object. And at some point, when the player already not in good shape to stay with the team, they will try to gamble the odds with huge buyouts, and hope to get back their money.
(Good business move, but morally and ethically assh*le move)

(this mostly happen to star player who can't perform as well as their previous performances)

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LEV and most other orgs do that because most players in Tier 1 won't agree to a 1 year contract, unless it's a rookie whose only option is Tier 2 or free agency. It's job security basically, that way they know that if things go south, get benched and don't get picked up, they at least get to have another year worth of salary

#11
n1Lf
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he has no idea what is going on, just ignore him bro. bless him hes a drx fan as well 😔

#20
Hyunboong
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I'm not even a LEV, or Demon1 fan. We're just seeing a pattern where orgs are signing these players, and dropping them months into their contract. What's the point in signing a 2026 contract, when you get dropped after a single split? Where's the stability in that? It's not just LEV, It's multiple orgs, across multiple regions.

#22
n1Lf
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he just explained it to you, they want to get PAID. the PLAYERS them selves want these 2026 contracts

#24
Hyunboong
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The money and contract length isn't the point. It's that these players are signing these 2 year contracts, yeah wanting money, but also wanting job stability on that team.

#25
AlexSMTx
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I get your point but that's just the minimum industry standard, it's not a coincidence most contracts are 2 years minimum, and that's what most experienced players ask for. You either offer them a 2 year contract or they just don't sign with your org at all (assuming they got other decent options, if they don't then some are willing to take a 1 year contract). On the other hand, if the new player you signed isn't working out for your team, as an org(or a coach) you are gonna go look somewhere else for someone that can provide more for your team. It all comes down to both parties looking to get whats best for themselves which can force ugly situations.

The fact that the VCT circuit has very few games with each of them having very high importance, only pushes teams even further to try to quickly improve their roster if things aren't working out, which doesn't help either. Losing 2/3 games early can literally mean the end for your hopes of qualifying to Masters or Champs.

Imo, what you are asking for would require for the industry or at the very least VCT to change which is easier said than done. It's possible but I don't see it happening anytime soon

#14
glittering_yard
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LEV had so much aura last year...

#23
aurafarmer
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People bitch about contract jail, now they bitch about no security. Biggest nothing burger in the world.

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