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PGSD4

Why do people still care about the lower bracket in tournaments?
I understand why the lower bracket should be in the qualifiers, but is it really important in international tournaments? I can only remember the FPX run when the lower bracket really mattered because they had a sub before the LB, but in other cases, the UB winners were always the favorites

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eg wouldnt have won champs, sen wouldnt have won madrid, t1 wouldnt have won bangkok

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uwukitten

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sen and t1 wouldn't have won? that's a W in my books

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Except eg i would say every other runner up were better than actual winner

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why didnt they win then

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egann

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less fluke more storyline

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PGSD4

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Which storyline would be fluke if there wasn’t lower bracket?

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egann

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hurts to say but prx actually. if there's no lb, eg/fpx run would've never happened and they were the better team overall during the tournament

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PGSD4

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it's like only 2 moments where you can say that lb was needed

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cameran

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optic loud in reyjavik could be, very debatable though but thats another example

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Two_Percent

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Allows teams to have a second chance, many teams that are better lose bc of surprise factor, less warm up, adjusting to meta, bad day, etc but comeback a lot better

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excuses

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waseetali9

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but it is the international no
and i think lower brackets lowers the stakes for every playoff match cuz
Ub teams can say
we still have lowers

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Two_Percent

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Lowers the stakes yeah but it makes the lower bracket matches and the grand final more hype, plus the map veto incentivizes teams to try get to and win the upper final

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Wolfed

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also more matches to watch 🎉

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Hyxagon

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single elimination may be more competitive and lead to the best team winning, but riot will never switch because lower bracket is better for entertainment, not only are there more matches and more opportunities for storylines, but with double elimination it almost guarantees that the grand finals is between the best two teams at the event. like if bangkok was single elimination, the finals would have been g2 vs edg, which was a pretty easy win for g2. even if that was a bo5, it would not have been nearly as entertaining as g2 vs t1.