him using it replying to others is an instance of degrading someone bcos hes comparing them to someone with a mental illness. bait or not it doesnt morally make it right ???? then whats his intention to bait? and why use that word? bcos he doesnt care n think its funny. is using degrading offensive language not dark humour now? moving goal posts slightly very cute. they have one latam player yet majority of their fans will come from there thats the point, they dont engage with their fans thats the issue and this makes it worse.
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Words are not objective word's have nuance words are used under different connotations he's responding to the drama of zellsis and him say “retard” and someone complaining about it this is used as nothing more than to further provoke the question because this person in question is upset for absolutely no reason what zellsis said has no relation to them nor did it cause any harm to any person it was used between two people who know each other personally and nothing more. That the point of RAGE... BAIT... little snowflake. You see it's a very common thing that people do on the internet involving understanding what someone is upset about and then further provoking that idea making them even more upset, evidently it had its intended effects on you. His intention is not to aggressively degrade another person, nor is it malicious in nature. Its intention is to make someone made. YES, he doesn't care and SHOULDN'T care. This isn't “dark humor” it's humor at best. Morality is based on intent. One could say it's morally wrong to eat meat or animals. However, if I as a vegan happen to eat something that I didn't know had meat in it, then that is not my intention. We as humans to now gauge morality upon the action itself, little snowflake understand? There is nothing morally wrong with using the word to begin with, nor what curry does... this is just being petty at best... I didn't move the goal post at all if the intention of a team is to connect with an audience they are based in they should sign players outside of where they are located, especially if you're then going to say well our CC should be based in this location. That's hypocritical and delusion. A LATAM audience can still support a non LATAM CC the same way they'll support a Russian and American on their team... You can engage with fans through a content creator that not LATAM... Again instead of crying, how about you actually use logic and evidence when this DOESN'T serve its intended purpose as you seem to think rather than baseless speculation.
Youre not understanding what it actually means then. the words DO harm ppl regardless of saying them to your friends or not it still is used against ppl so why would you wanna keep using it? how is a person to know "oh youre one of the good ones that only uses degrading language to your friends but not against someone from that community" ? So his response to the drama is to make it worse? and stir the pot. its childish. I understand its bait, but you can still say that its morally wrong to bait, bcos its childish and bcos youre disregarding the actual connotations of the word and its affects on the world. if i baited by screamed the n word it wouldnt be funny so why does it change when its this? what youre not getting is that it doesnt matter what his "intentions" are. bait or not, joking to a friend or not. the use of the word regardless means you dont understand its meaning to show everyone he doesnt care nor listen when problems are raised. its narrowmindedness. you cant compare to not knowing something had meat in it to an ALREADY KNOWN SLUR that you continue to use lmao what? its been slur for 20+ years you cant use that argument. we know his intentions are not good. plus yeah you absolutely can have CCs from all over but choosing the guy that deliberately shat on LATAM teams? just leaves a bad taste of not knowing your audience. theres plenty of other streamers no doubt they couldve got 5 LATAM streamers and curry that wouldve been more respectable but they didnt. its still shitty. Ah yes "snowflake" "crying" im literally bawling my eyes out cos of you on VLR. bruh get a grip. youre trying to type like you know what youre talking about but you dont even know the facts of what youre talking about.
One feeling harm does not entail the intention, language can get easily misconstrued you feeling harm towards something does not entail that thing inherently being harmful. Any word can be used against someone. You don't have to that completely on you and irrelevant to reality. His response is to further elaborate on the insignificance of it all. It's a childish drama to begin with. You can say what ever you want doesn't make it right. I could say you're morally wrong for using a device, since there are some people who don't have that luxury. Doesn't make it inherently right or valid. The connotation is literally what a word invokes BEYOND is dictionary definition. Meaning the intent and context it's being used in…that's not what I'm disregarding, that's what I'm HIGHLIGHTING. Why're you using words you don't know the meaning of, lol. I'm well aware of where the word originates. The difference is YOU view it as a slur others don't, and it's merely a substitute for another word... There is no using the N words as a substitute. There is no using the F word as a substitute, those are words MADE to degrade and demean others of a specific group. Retard is at BEST a word that was then eventually USED to degrade a group of people, it was not MADE under that context. Forcing your beliefs on the matter to others is the problem. This is a word where intention is relevant. Your counter argument to the meat example is YOU view it as a slur and force that idea objectively. We know his intentions are not aggressively malicious in either of the scenarios, and is used as nothing more than an insult. Again curry shit talks EVERYONE, you think he signed up like an audition and just got picked? No... lmao they likely came to him... you know why? Because NO ONE takes curry's lame trash talk serious besides you who knows literally know of these people... it boarders parasocial... curry would have even signed if they actually had problems. THAT is what makes you a snowflake, the fact that you take shit talk of people you literally DONT KNOW seriously.
its not just me tho is it. why do you think zellsis had to apologise, so did curry lmao bcos he knows exactly what hes said about latam teams, why do you think so many ppl dont like to use the word, and inversely why do you think ppl like you defend the word so much talking about "intentions" bcos you know its not just a word that has no harmful connotations, bcos youd never use the same argument for other slurs. its most common use by large is as an insult (with friends or not), where most ppl know it as a slur.
it was made as a medical term to mean mentally disabled/slow thats WHY its used as an insult bcos you are likening something to be stupid. it turned into a slur and has STAYED a slur. why do you think these ppl use it? bcos it means stupid, idiot, something you disagree with, something you dont like, its used NEGATIVELY. thats a fact. it still is a slur bcos i for sure know that curry is NOT using it as a medical term bcos they have changed what they use to mean that now. "at BEST a word that was then eventually USED to degrade a group of people, it was not MADE under that context." it was still made to mean a disabled person? it initially came from meaning slow but youre not describing an object as being slow its a person, it always has and always will be a slur. thats a fact and youve proven youve not done a single bit of research into this at all LMAO.
how is this a word when its intentions are relevant but others slurs arent? why are you heavily defending it? words like moron and idiot dont have the same treatment when they meant the exact same thing. just accept this is a slur and move on, maybe learn from it and speak to disabled ppl and ask why they dont like it. learn empathy. bcos you wouldnt say it at someones face would you? maybe realise that harmful words exist and change that. why do we draw the line at disabled ppl but not gay, black whatever else you also agree with that is a slur. we know this is a slur?
I guess the same can be said about you bcos you seem to know currys intentions so much its like you live with him and speak with him daily. im not putting him on a pedestal you are lol. hypocrisy really is funny
He had to apologize because YOU and people like YOU take it serious not because the people in question too offense... an insult is not a slur, I'm not sure whether you're aware of that or not. I defend it because IT IS just a word that is based on intention. Tf are you even talking about. Some people wrongfully THINK it's a slur, the same way some people Don't. Again, like... you might just be not all there in the head. That is a INSULT, not a SLUR. INSULTS are not SLURS. It's not about using it as a medical term, it's. A slur is putting someone down by INSULTING a group of people. In the sense of curry and zellsis they are literally just using it to call someone dumb. Like, I genuinely don't understand how you think you do realize... that by viewing it as a slur. You are insinuating it you should take offense to being compared to disabled people... you literally become the root of the problem you are desperately attempting to claim a moral high ground over... Do you not comprehend that, under your own logic, "Dumb" would be a "slur" for people who lack the ability to speak? Like it's insane, you don't comprehend what you are saying. "It was still made to mean a disabled person?" You are QUIET LITERALLY saying that being disabled is inherently a BAD thing. This is a word where intentions are relevant because IT DOESN'T STEM FROM DEGRADING A GROUP OF PEOPLE the N word does... the F word stand to directly REBUKE homosexuality. Retard is a medical term. YOU stigmatize on the word, not the word itself. THAT'S the difference. Sorry I have basic context clue's and can tell when someone isn't the aggressor or malicious in a situation. Jesus Christ you are a very slow individual.
i never asked him to apologise. i dont even have twitter lmao i couldnt care less why he did or if he did bcos i genuinely dont care what they do, once again i dont put them on pedestals you do.
youre just wrong tho. its factually a slur my guy. you can just search it up lmao. i mean cmon atleast be right. just type it into google rn and read the responses. ill do it for you:
"In typical usage, retard is a pejorative term for someone who is considered stupid, slow to understand, or ineffective in some way as a comparison to stereotypical traits perceived in those with intellectual disability."
its modern usage between friends is a relatively new thing but for the vast majority its still a slur. its right there in writing. theyve been using it for years.
"A slur is putting someone down by INSULTING a group of people. In the sense of curry and zellsis they are literally just using it to call someone dumb" where do you think its definition of dumb comes from? bcos it meant someone with an intellectual disability! which is why it became a slur well done my guy! you just straight up admitted to it. it WAS a medical term, it changed bcos they change to words like disabled, handicapped etc thats why words like moron, idiot and even this became insults which in turn created a slur bcos this was heavily loaded.
" that by viewing it as a slur. You are insinuating it you should take offense to being compared to disabled people" im not saying that, im saying youre comparing something/someone negatively, to mean disabled.
“Because the word has become a casual description of anything negative or flawed, ‘retarded’ is no longer considered an appropriate way to describe people with intellectual disabilities. And any use of the word, even when used as slang and not intended to be offensive, is hurtful - because it will always be associated with people who have disabilities.”
– Sara Mitton, Board Member, Treasure Valley Down Syndrome Association
the whole point is regardless of intention when you use the word it invokes something in everyone that will make you think of a disabled person. thats just a fact im sorry you dont have that empathy. you need to talk to someone that is affected with this word they will tell you why you should care. its ok tho not everyone can change for the better :)
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