Envy Purposely lost against Gambit so TSM wouldn’t be in LCQ so Chet would be available for pick up while simultaneously fucking over Mike
shyftnot [#6]that mike situation still bothers me. made it to the final under the training of a coach that wasn't even signed afterwards. fucking ungrateful (the org, not the players).
you are giving mikes way too much credit
there is no such thing as being grateful or ungrateful in business, nobody is entitled to anything
FNS has been one of the best minds in NA for the greater part of a decade and people think mikes literally carried envy to finals for no fucking reason
SETSUZA [#9]you are giving mikes way too much credit
there is no such thing as being grateful or ungrateful in business, nobody is entitled to anything
FNS has been one of the best minds in NA for the greater part of a decade and people think mikes literally carried envy to finals for no fucking reason
maybe I am. but don't you think you're giving FNS too much credit, like he is not shahzam in reykjavic.
teams need coaches even after having an IGL. coaches aren't substitute teachers you can ignore.
shyftnot [#10]maybe I am. but don't you think you're giving FNS too much credit, like he is not shahzam in reykjavic.
teams need coaches even after having an IGL. coaches aren't substitute teachers you can ignore.
i am praying you’re not trying to say shahzam is a more tactical igl than fns
shyftnot [#10]maybe I am. but don't you think you're giving FNS too much credit, like he is not shahzam in reykjavic.
teams need coaches even after having an IGL. coaches aren't substitute teachers you can ignore.
shahzam is good ya but u do realize envy didn’t have their coach for berlin either right
SETSUZA [#11]i am praying you’re not trying to say shahzam is a more tactical igl than fns
nope. not in a thousand years. I'm saying NV had a coach and there's no way he did absolutely nothing for 3 months.
shyftnot [#13]nope. not in a thousand years. I'm saying NV had a coach and there's no way he did absolutely nothing for 3 months.
oh that’s fair, you’re right that in reality it’s probably somewhere in the middle. between the extremes of “FNS did everything” and “mikes did everything”
personally i will lean towards the former because FNS has already established his place as a top igl for over 5 years already though
swaglord69 [#12]shahzam is good ya but u do realize envy didn’t have their coach for berlin either right
yea because of and it was visa issues. doesn't mean all his coaching before that was gone and the team didn't benefit from them when he wasn't there.
SETSUZA [#14]oh that’s fair, you’re right that in reality it’s probably somewhere in the middle. between the extremes of “FNS did everything” and “mikes did everything”
personally i will lean towards the former because FNS has already established his place as a top igl for over 5 years already though
ok 60% agree. shake on it? 🤝