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Actual T1 teams per region

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#1
KoreanOverlord

CIS: Gambit

Honorable mentions: Navi

EU: Acend, G2, Liquid

Honorable mentions: Giants, Fnatic, Guild

NA: SEN, NV, 100T, XSET

Honorable mentions: C9, FaZe, Rise

KR: VS, NU

Honorable mentions: TNL

TR: SMB

Honorable mentions: FUT

SEA: PRX

Honorable mentions: TS, X10, FS

JP: CR

Honorable mentions: NTH

LATAM/BR: Nobody

Honorable mentions: KRU, VK, Australs

My own personal list. Made some adjustments after revision.

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If CR is considered T1 then KRU deserves it too

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CalypsoGHC
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Wdym latam/br nobody

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thanatos11
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LDN United are a better team than NAVI

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helohelo
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Wouldn't consider XSET tier 1 yet unless they finish top 2 in LCQ

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EU_quiet
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Where's TSM?m

#7
Brensek
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I mean that's quite accurate if you see it based on the international performance. I'd say brazil has VK tho.

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mystbz1
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fnatic t1 still

#9
FilipAkaMojzesz
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Nice list.

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Jockie
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You mean straight World Class with T1? Because KRU is T1 on their region for sure

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KoreanOverlord
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ciro [#2]

If CR is considered T1 then KRU deserves it too

I think this is possible but in my own list I believe CR could beat KRU handedly

CR in scrims are really good and it always surprised me how bad they become in international tournaments but they showed their actual potential against HL and GMB so that's just my own personal take on it

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i think damwon has potential for t1 next year if they change some players around their core (t3xture, intro, eugene/jeong hi?) and play a less passive style
ge and f4q were able to repeatedly use their aggression against how passive damwon is which is why they suffer
intr0, climax, t3xture, jeong hi, (potentially even esperanza..?) would be a stacked roster

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streamratings
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EU_quiet [#6]

Where's TSM?m

In LCQ

oh wait

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rooftop_s
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You can't call any team tier 1 without going to a LAN so far imo. XSET isn't there yet. Also I'd say fnatic and SMB are near the same level. Fnatic hasn't performed amazingly since Iceland and SMB have seemed inconsistent. I would have also considered X10 and PRX near the same level, X10 got a bit fucked in the way they couldn't qualify for Berlin.

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KoreanOverlord
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SeulgiVLR [#12]

i think damwon has potential for t1 next year if they change some players around their core (t3xture, intro, eugene/jeong hi?) and play a less passive style
ge and f4q were able to repeatedly use their aggression against how passive damwon is which is why they suffer
intr0, climax, t3xture, jeong hi, (potentially even esperanza..?) would be a stacked roster

Oh next year korea will level up hardcore, bunch of new players and orgs coming in

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streamratings
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Good list, only thing I’d change is KRU up

#17
SeulgiVLR
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KoreanOverlord [#15]

Oh next year korea will level up hardcore, bunch of new players and orgs coming in

excited to see lunatic-hai tubeple and spear make a return to kr, hoping the mystic, ghibli, and talon rumors are true too

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CalypsoGHC
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KoreanOverlord [#11]

I think this is possible but in my own list I believe CR could beat KRU handedly

CR in scrims are really good and it always surprised me how bad they become in international tournaments but they showed their actual potential against HL and GMB so that's just my own personal take on it

scrims don't matter

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KoreanOverlord
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rooftop_s [#14]

You can't call any team tier 1 without going to a LAN so far imo. XSET isn't there yet. Also I'd say fnatic and SMB are near the same level. Fnatic hasn't performed amazingly since Iceland and SMB have seemed inconsistent. I would have also considered X10 and PRX near the same level, X10 got a bit fucked in the way they couldn't qualify for Berlin.

Nah if anything I think X10 got worse and they havent played with patipan in months, TS is closer to PRX then X10 atm

#20
KoreanOverlord
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CalypsoGHC [#18]

scrims don't matter

they do though, see NV, Gambit, and Vision Strikers

#21
plas
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for latam u should add australs they’re actually near the same level as kru

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KoreanOverlord
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Jockie [#10]

You mean straight World Class with T1? Because KRU is T1 on their region for sure

yep world class, and I think geographically LATAM are at a significant disadvantage

their scene isnt as big as Asia (about 1/4 the playerbase), so in their region their scrim competition is lacking

and all the NA teams are way too far to scrim with them, although they occasionally do

#23
KoreanOverlord
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plas [#21]

for latam u should add australs they’re actually near the same level as kru

Good shout

#24
rbvwolf1
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TR: SMB
hm: fut, oxg

#25
KoreanOverlord
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rbvwolf1 [#24]

TR: SMB
hm: fut, oxg

True fut could probably go in EU HM

#26
xqcL
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If you put finest there you have to put 10-15 more teams too lmao… how is finest there? Tell me what they did to deserve that spot

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KoreanOverlord
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xqcL [#26]

If you put finest there you have to put 10-15 more teams too lmao… how is finest there? Tell me what they did to deserve that spot

actually u right I just smoked some israel hopium

I removed

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xqcL
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KoreanOverlord [#27]

actually u right I just smoked some israel hopium

I removed

Except that list is pretty good but I would definitely put KRU to T1 teams.

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KoreanOverlord [#11]

I think this is possible but in my own list I believe CR could beat KRU handedly

CR in scrims are really good and it always surprised me how bad they become in international tournaments but they showed their actual potential against HL and GMB so that's just my own personal take on it

CR didn't drop a map to anyone but the winners of Berlin o.o
That's all I'm saying

#30
Ibis
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Youre putting TR in EU but separate gambit because you don’t wanna admit that the best team in the world is from Europe

#31
tvinh1306
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Nice list but i think should put KRU to T1

#32
Cbrzm
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Ibis [#30]

Youre putting TR in EU but separate gambit because you don’t wanna admit that the best team in the world is from Europe

Yeah,he needs to seperate TR or add Gambit to EU

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KoreanOverlord
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Ibis [#30]

Youre putting TR in EU but separate gambit because you don’t wanna admit that the best team in the world is from Europe

You know CIS includes Russia Ukraine Belarus and a bunch of different countries

.. while TR is just TR right?

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Ibis [#30]

Youre putting TR in EU but separate gambit because you don’t wanna admit that the best team in the world is from Europe

Exactly, at least the majority of Gambit players are in the European zone of Russia, but Turkey is more Middle East than Europe

#35
HereticX
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KRU deserves as a T1 team but CR nope, they made it to the masters 3 but still

#36
dolphincandy
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Bruh u took 4 teams in NA TIER 1 and only 3 in honorable mentions its as if u purposely removed TSM that came top5 NA in qualifuers 2

#37
KoreanOverlord
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TaoOat [#29]

CR didn't drop a map to anyone but the winners of Berlin o.o
That's all I'm saying

CR dropping the balls against X10 really hurt their reputation

They've been number 1 in Japan consistently, Japan has biggest playerbase in Asia, they have really good org support, have a really strong roster on paper, and their track record without that game is this:

-Nailbiter vs V1

-Clapped by Gambit

-Beat Haven Liberty comfortably

-Nailbiter vs Gambit

At Champions if they get a good group I see them making Ro.16 upsetting a team like Fnatic. Of course they could choke again like they did versus X10 but they seem to be getting better every season.

#38
shyftnot
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tbh I agree with most of them but in NA the skill gap between T1 teams and honourable mentions are astonishing.

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