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Derke is officially the GOAT duelist
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I_LOVE_LESS [#5]they havent even played a game yet
Even if he performs that’s not indicative of being better, derke has Sayf trexx and less while Aspas has xenom nzr and artzin
Uncleben [#7]Even if he performs that’s not indicative of being better, derke has Sayf trexx and less while Aspas has xenom nzr and artzin
derke has won more tourneys though
Uncleben [#7]Even if he performs that’s not indicative of being better, derke has Sayf trexx and less while Aspas has xenom nzr and artzin
Less is going to carry the game, dont worry
babysasuke [#4]He is so overrated fam
Probably makes the top 25 duelist all time and he’s not 1-24
Nah he's def top10. Think you mistakened Babybay as the 25th. :D
Shadow_Monarch [#12]Nah he's def top10. Think you mistakened Babybay as the 25th. :D
I have never seen Derke perform as well as peak babybay
Cookierookie577 [#8]derke has won more tourneys though
I hate this tired argument
Kiles has won more trophies than mako, forsaken, something, riens, kinggg, primmie and cryo combined
Trophies do not = individual skill!!!!!
42% of Derkes kills are eco frags btw, the most out if any tier 1 pro
Uncleben [#15]I hate this tired argument
Kiles has won more trophies than mako, forsaken, something, riens, kinggg, primmie and cryo combinedTrophies do not = individual skill!!!!!
42% of Derkes kills are eco frags btw, the most out if any tier 1 pro
If you were European you would take this as confirmation that Kiles is better
Uncleben [#15]I hate this tired argument
Kiles has won more trophies than mako, forsaken, something, riens, kinggg, primmie and cryo combinedTrophies do not = individual skill!!!!!
42% of Derkes kills are eco frags btw, the most out if any tier 1 pro
It's not like aspas has always been on Mibr, hes been on good teams as well. Derke beat him in a 11-3 comeback
Cookierookie577 [#17]It's not like aspas has always been on Mibr, hes been on good teams as well. Derke beat him in a 11-3 comeback
Statistically though he was actually wayyyy more impactful for loud than derke was for fnc (Leo and Alfa were more impactful) and he outperformed even more heavily in 2024)
I think its fair to say that while derke is the 2nd best duelist OAT, there’s never been a time where he as an individual was better than Aspas for any prolonged stretch of time
Uncleben [#18]Statistically though he was actually wayyyy more impactful for loud than derke was for fnc (Leo and Alfa were more impactful) and he outperformed even more heavily in 2024)
I think its fair to say that while derke is the 2nd best duelist OAT, there’s never been a time where he as an individual was better than Aspas for any prolonged stretch of time
Baitpas got carried by pancada and less at champs 22. https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1015/valorant-champions-2022
Baitpas doesn't even make it into the top 20 individual performances list.
https://i.imgur.com/BtJnWrr_d.webp?maxwidth=760&fidelity=grand
Uncleben [#18]Statistically though he was actually wayyyy more impactful for loud than derke was for fnc (Leo and Alfa were more impactful) and he outperformed even more heavily in 2024)
I think its fair to say that while derke is the 2nd best duelist OAT, there’s never been a time where he as an individual was better than Aspas for any prolonged stretch of time
I mean Loud won his only tourney with him playing mid, although he gets stats it doesn't really lead to to anything, Derke won the round that started the FNC comeback, and he was FNC best player last year
Cookierookie577 [#20]I mean Loud won his only tourney with him playing mid, although he gets stats it doesn't really lead to to anything, Derke won the round that started the FNC comeback, and he was FNC best player last year
I don’t believe that he was fanatics best player last year tbh, Leo was better before he got benched and Alfa was better than derke and times
Champs was aspas’s career worst performance, but every other international he was been too he plays well and is usually his teams best player, I’d also recommend watching the best player of 2023 video if u want a better idea of aspas’s actual impact
Uncleben [#21]I don’t believe that he was fanatics best player last year tbh, Leo was better before he got benched and Alfa was better than derke and times
Champs was aspas’s career worst performance, but every other international he was been too he plays well and is usually his teams best player, I’d also recommend watching the best player of 2023 video if u want a better idea of aspas’s actual impact
Leo barely played, and afla was lowkey inconsistent. Derke was by far their best player during champs. Aspas just doesn't have the hardware. he couldve beat TH during champs, especially when LEV is a good team
babysasuke [#4]He is so overrated fam
Probably makes the top 25 duelist all time and he’s not 1-24
Bro what hes 100% top 10 all time name 9 other players who are as consistent with any roster behind them
Cookierookie577 [#22]Leo barely played, and afla was lowkey inconsistent. Derke was by far their best player during champs. Aspas just doesn't have the hardware. he couldve beat TH during champs, especially when LEV is a good team
Fnatic placed 5th at champs but derke was their best player, chronicle was better in stage 2, the whole team was shit at shanghai, Leo was better in stage 1, derke was their worst player at kickoff
I don’t get this argument
Also once again trophies = good team, not individual skill
Ribi [#23]Bro what hes 100% top 10 all time name 9 other players who are as consistent with any roster behind them
Derke defenders love the word “consistent”
He’s consistently mid, doesn’t make him a top 10 player
babysasuke [#25]Derke defenders love the word “consistent”
He’s consistently mid, doesn’t make him a top 10 player
How is he consistently mid lol i dont like to bring up stats but basically every tournament since 2021 hes been on the top on stats with god rosters like 2023 or with alright roster like 2021-some of 2022 and in every team he preforms while still fulfilling his role
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