Game changers drama truth

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TeoEmil

If all the non binary or trans female players were dogshit or mediocre literally no one would care or question the legibility

People only care because they want to act as protectors of esports despite no one asking them to.

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eric_5008

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I don't have a strong opinion on this, but for most people, its not the idea of being trans or non-binary but the skill disparity. Competitive fairness is a big part of sports and esports. As of right now, men are better at the game at the top level as shown by no GC team finding success in T2 or even making it far in open quals. Its hard to watch when most girls in the tourney are struggling to keep up in aim and skill right now. Obviously there are outliers like G2 Gozen who are some of the top female talents.

But inclusivity is required if the goal is to have co-ed teams in the future, in theory the gap should close with time and practice. Esports is weird bc its not all physical like basketball, so I'm hoping this gap will decrease eventually.

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its fully just societal factors that have made the disparity. GC teams need to skrim against T2 teams more and hats why i think its great SR have been trying to play more in challengers itll just take time

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G2thelion

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Thank you

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Kxtqqh

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keyword : most

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Unfathomably based take

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TeoEmil

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Thank you toeless

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femboyenjoyer

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right like iirc mel tweeted something that bsaicaly agreed with wwhat u js said

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marika_knows_the_end

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vlr isn't gonna like this one probably but this is also true for trans women in regular sports. there's barely any of them and most of them don't do well but "trans woman places 8th in women's tournament" isn't gonna make the news, it's why they always talk about Lia Thomas because she actually won something lol, and why they have to pretend like Imane Khelif is trans because they need to put all the focus and discourse on a few individuals who do well in order to harm the whole community. this is not necessarily a pro-trans in women's sport argument btw, i think there is a lot of nuance to this discussion outside of a blanket ban or just allowing anyone to compete, just a critique on how the media and a few individuals perpetuate transphobia by using a few cherrypicked examples.

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VFLNMO

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What is the criteria for a player to be eligible to play in GC? Just identifying as "anything" besides man? Genuine question, I mean no offense or disrespect

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TeoEmil

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Pretty sure that’s it yeah. Gender identity that’s not cis male

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VFLNMO

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I guess that riot has to take the players' word for it then. It's not like you could just "test" it. But that raises a lot of questions...

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marika_knows_the_end

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there is a long verification process

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VFLNMO

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I just can't imagine how you would verify that but I'll believe it

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TheBigBoiPenguin

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it can definitely be faked as seen by like keenc but im pretty sure its decently effective

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TeoEmil

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I need to know what this keenc thing is

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TheBigBoiPenguin

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faked nonbinary to play in GC, he was destroying everybody and then screenshots of old messages saying "what if i faked NB to play in gc" or something along those lines came out

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velocity05

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this argument doesnt make any sense because the hypothetical isnt true

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kingop3n

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except it is. theres plenty of players who havent got to the top

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velocity05

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Do you know how statistics work? Top 10 is 50% / 50%. This shouldnt be the case considering women are the vast majority of the players

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calImegod

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Massive if

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childish

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isnt that the point, they dont acc hate the individuals but the disparity

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masymereJ

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Honestly, the players who said that other genders have no advantage in esports are the same players who are using the different genders to dominate GC. Full female teams are just afraid of saying this shit because of the 'public hanging' that would ensue after. This world is honestly fucked up.