lxt 3?

eu:
4 contracted in vct
2 igls
4 free agents

na:
7 contracted in vct
2 igls
1 free agent

wasnt this kinda obvious lol

yeah idk who made that boaster team but they need to get out they are ruining my viewing experience, they aint event try

x_knowitall39_x [#2]

yeah idk who made that boaster team but they need to get out they are ruining my viewing experience, they aint event try

boaster did

5 NA vs 5 EU is just too unfair
pretty obvious what the outcome is gonna be

well the best players in EU didn't want to come or had other obligations so...we get what we get. these events will never be perfect for non NA participation

attach [#3]

boaster did

why am I not surprised. no wonder there are 3 dirty UK dead career dogs on the team

TM06Nick [#5]

well the best players in EU didn't want to come or had other obligations so...we get what we get. these events will never be perfect for non NA participation

yeah, i agree. i think its still fun, outside of some of this eu teams games. i do think people are making a lot of it, maybe theyre just trolling but the eu teams are clearly not a good rep LOL.

aren’t Derrek, C0M, and Marved all free agents?

bro is blatantly manipulating the n4rrative

Noodle [#8]

aren’t Derrek, C0M, and Marved all free agents?

EG Derrek, LEV c0m

TM06Nick [#10]

EG Derrek, LEV c0m

both only have contracts through 2024, they’re not signed for next season yet

Noodle [#8]

aren’t Derrek, C0M, and Marved all free agents?

i literally included marved. and c0m is 100% staying.
idk about derrek but i believe hes been seen in scrims for eg? he was their best player so i imagine he stays.

8 of the EU players were playing in T1 this year, 1 is scream, the other won ascension

8 of the NA players played a full season of T1 last year, marved played half, reduxx played t2

calling players like ardiis and tomaszy worse because theyre FA is laughable

Hyopic [#13]

8 of the EU players were playing in T1 this year, 1 is scream, the other won ascension

8 of the NA players played a full season of T1 last year, marved played half, reduxx played t2

calling players like ardiis and tomaszy worse because theyre FA is laughable

so when patitek and hiro play less than half the season you dont mention, but when marved plays half you do mention it.
bro your just biased. i dont care much about this eu vs na stuff which is why i havent been watching, but theres a clear favoured side, anyone should admit.

serverman [#14]

so when patitek and hiro play less than half the season you dont mention, but when marved plays half you do mention it.
bro your just biased. i dont care much about this eu vs na stuff which is why i havent been watching, but theres a clear favoured side, anyone should admit.

i get what you mean but hiro and patt’s half of the season also included international events, so their reps mean more

serverman [#14]

so when patitek and hiro play less than half the season you dont mention, but when marved plays half you do mention it.
bro your just biased. i dont care much about this eu vs na stuff which is why i havent been watching, but theres a clear favoured side, anyone should admit.

Pati went to 2 LANS with 1 GF finish and Hiro played 1 LAN with a 5-6th place finish

boostio from -25 vs sen to +25 against eu shits wilddd

serverman [#14]

so when patitek and hiro play less than half the season you dont mention, but when marved plays half you do mention it.
bro your just biased. i dont care much about this eu vs na stuff which is why i havent been watching, but theres a clear favoured side, anyone should admit.

Hiro and Patitek both played more matches than Marved and placed in internationals, lets not pretend they had the same seasons.

Hyopic [#18]

Hiro and Patitek both played more matches than Marved and placed in internationals, lets not pretend they had the same seasons.

this site is impossible to use, you just ignore what i said.

serverman [#19]

this site is impossible to use, you just ignore what i said.

I agree that the NA teams are way more stacked but the part I disagree on is that it's because "LxT got 4 FA's", thats BS. The players that showed up were worse and it's not because those players aren't above average in their league because they most certainly are.

Its not like they can ask all of fnc, TH, Vit, and idk bbl bc they the best in the region to come to their event, they got who they could and still managed to bring in a lot of talent and a few lowkey washed players. Not a supprise NA winning doh

Hyopic [#20]

I agree that the NA teams are way more stacked but the part I disagree on is that it's because "LxT got 4 FA's", thats BS. The players that showed up were worse and it's not because those players aren't above average in their league because they most certainly are.

so mistic, scream, tomaszy are all above average in emea league???
you are absolutely wrong. i doubt you know this game as well as i do if you believe what you just said.

i mean scream isnt even a pro anymore, tomaszy puts up .8 rating in stage 2 and mistic had terrible statistics too. how can you possibly find these to be above average tier 1 pros.

SnorlaxEnjoyer [#17]

boostio from -25 vs sen to +25 against eu shits wilddd

well the eu team is below the level of novo esports and sweetnsour
meanwhile sentinels is one of the best team in valorant

Hyopic [#20]

I agree that the NA teams are way more stacked but the part I disagree on is that it's because "LxT got 4 FA's", thats BS. The players that showed up were worse and it's not because those players aren't above average in their league because they most certainly are.

never in my years of living did I think i would hear mistic and above average in the same sentence

Noodle [#11]

both only have contracts through 2024, they’re not signed for next season yet

pretty sure c0m re-signed

x_knowitall39_x [#24]

never in my years of living did I think i would hear mistic and above average in the same sentence

yea but lets not pretend zellsis c0m and derrek are known for being amazing players either lmfao

serverman [#22]

so mistic, scream, tomaszy are all above average in emea league???
you are absolutely wrong. i doubt you know this game as well as i do if you believe what you just said.

i mean scream isnt even a pro anymore, tomaszy puts up .8 rating in stage 2 and mistic had terrible statistics too. how can you possibly find these to be above average tier 1 pros.

yes scream and tomaszy are good players are you insane? KC as a whole were looking shit, marteen barely had a rating over 1, besides he had a 1.10 rating in stage 1(top 7), while having very high impact in all of their games besides FUT. Scream isnt pro anymore but it's laughable you think he couldn't as though he hadn't been a consistent player for years up until his break. If we're talking "bad statistics players", then where are derrek, c0m, zellsis, marved, and boostio? Or are we going to view players only by their entire seasons when it is EMEA but not NA. Be real

Hyopic [#27]

yes scream and tomaszy are good players are you insane? KC as a whole were looking shit, marteen barely had a rating over 1, besides he had a 1.10 rating in stage 1(top 7), while having very high impact in all of their games besides FUT. Scream isnt pro anymore but it's laughable you think he couldn't as though he hadn't been a consistent player for years up until his break. If we're talking "bad statistics players", then where are derrek, c0m, zellsis, marved, and boostio? Or are we going to view players only by their entire seasons when it is EMEA but not NA. Be real

derrek rating: 1.05 (1st on team)
zellsis rating: 1.01
c0m rating: .95 tbf
marved: literally included him as free agent, mentioned this alr

tomaszy rating: .94
mistic rating: .86
scream rating: streamer

also boostio is an igl and hes like comparable to boaster so scratch him

serverman [#28]

derrek rating: 1.05 (1st on team)
zellsis rating: 1.01
c0m rating: .95 tbf
marved: literally included him as free agent, mentioned this alr

tomaszy rating: .94
mistic rating: .86
scream rating: streamer

also boostio is an igl and hes like comparable to boaster so scratch him

Derrek's stats were inflated in stage 2 off playing Mibr and Furia, in stage 1 in which he had a similar set of games to TL he was significantly worse, however I will agree that he is definitely better than a lot of emea players (as one of the only actual dedicated initiators as well)

Zellsis' most recent rating was .98 and has never reached tomaszy's peak rating the entire year

I don't think rating is a good metric to judge players because it's entirely dependent on whether or not you as a player have less deaths. That's why players like grubhino will have an incredible rating but realistically have barely any impact on the server.

Neverless, mistic is definitely the worst player in the tourney that is not an IGL, however I fail to see how it is "unfair" to EMEA. There aren't going to be perfect groups, but Rolly Winners is incredibly stacked as a team considering they have 3 heretics players, ardiis and tomaszy.

also scream was top 4 in rating at LCQ and had a .99 rating on the worst team in the league during the regular split before he left lmao

Hyopic [#29]

Derrek's stats were inflated in stage 2 off playing Mibr and Furia, in stage 1 in which he had a similar set of games to TL he was significantly worse, however I will agree that he is definitely better than a lot of emea players (as one of the only actual dedicated initiators as well)

Zellsis' most recent rating was .98 and has never reached tomaszy's peak rating the entire year

I don't think rating is a good metric to judge players because it's entirely dependent on whether or not you as a player have less deaths. That's why players like grubhino will have an incredible rating but realistically have barely any impact on the server.

Neverless, mistic is definitely the worst player in the tourney that is not an IGL, however I fail to see how it is "unfair" to EMEA. There aren't going to be perfect groups, but Rolly Winners is incredibly stacked as a team considering they have 3 heretics players, ardiis and tomaszy.

also scream was top 4 in rating at LCQ and had a .99 rating on the worst team in the league during the regular split before he left lmao

it seems you misunderstood. i dont think its unfair, better eu players were asked to play, and didnt accept.
i just think its obvious which side is better represented, and that it was obvious na would outperform eu.
i only made this post because people were spamming the site (at least when i first opened it) with eu laugh threads despite the result being insanely obvious, and not really a true eu vs na match (unlike the upper final which is made of 2 good teams). i wasnt even watching that last match as it was so obvious. only the upper final (1 map) and i will watch the games tmrw, hopefully it will be eu vs na in the final so its more hype.

this post was only to point that out. im honestly surprised people even watched that lower round 1

serverman [#30]

it seems you misunderstood. i dont think its unfair, better eu players were asked to play, and didnt accept.
i just think its obvious which side is better represented, and that it was obvious na would outperform eu.
i only made this post because people were spamming the site (at least when i first opened it) with eu laugh threads despite the result being insanely obvious, and not really a true eu vs na match (unlike the upper final which is made of 2 good teams). i wasnt even watching that last match as it was so obvious. only the upper final (1 map) and i will watch the games tmrw, hopefully it will be eu vs na in the final so its more hype.

this post was only to point that out. im honestly surprised people even watched that lower round 1

Fair enough, I agree with you on that. The main issue I had with your post was explaining that they were worse because they were "4 FAs" when realistically that means nothing to the players skill especially since they were contracted this year.
Glad we could come to an understanding, have a good day.