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nAts vs less

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#1
kalayav_n

i will be there, if TL can stop being greedy and put that leo chron and nAts together, EMEA is officially better than AMER

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I don't think that roster would do better than current FNC

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kalayav_n
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Mortadelo [#2]

I don't think that roster would do better than current FNC

what roster

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they wont do it seeing the route they went for past years. its kind of budgety

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emea will never be better

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Ryukzerr [#4]

they wont do it seeing the route they went for past years. its kind of budgety

my idol nAts is being wasted at TL man ffs, couldve won so much more and couldve been cemented as the greatest SENTI of all time but ofc TL greedy asf

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kalayav_n [#3]

what roster

Leo chronicle and nats

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Mortadelo [#7]

Leo chronicle and nats

literally gambit core + one of the initators and keiko is way better than fnc

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kalayav_n [#6]

my idol nAts is being wasted at TL man ffs, couldve won so much more and couldve been cemented as the greatest SENTI of all time but ofc TL greedy asf

i agree they should just splash the money if theyre able to.

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ionlyHave1Zuni [#5]

emea will never be better

i dont wanna watch the same recycled amer players over and over and over again

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Ryukzerr [#9]

i agree they should just splash the money if theyre able to.

yeah i guess welcome to average brain dead management who only cares for guarantee profit,

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kalayav_n [#8]

literally gambit core + one of the initators and keiko is way better than fnc

i wouldnt say better but they would be way more competitive than the current roster.

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kalayav_n [#10]

i dont wanna watch the same recycled amer players over and over and over again

better than 😴 emea games. 0 aura players

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kalayav_n [#11]

yeah i guess welcome to average brain dead management who only cares for guarantee profit,

maybe liquid isnt that rich after all xD

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kalayav_n [#8]

literally gambit core + one of the initators and keiko is way better than fnc

You're just replacing alfajer with nats and being realistic Alfajer is a far better player. And Keiko is not better than kaajak

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Mortadelo [#15]

You're just replacing alfajer with nats and being realistic Alfajer is a far better player. And Keiko is not better than kaajak

Alfajer is a better aimer but not a better Senti than nats, we also havent seen keiko with a better team and support around him nor have we seen kaajak performing in tier 1 pressure there are some unknowns.

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I hate team liquid so much for not going for that roster , my poor cutie patootie strawberry pie with raspberry cream nAts going through contract jail TwT

SAVE OUR KING NATS

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Ryukzerr [#16]

Alfajer is a better aimer but not a better Senti than nats, we also havent seen keiko with a better team and support around him nor have we seen kaajak performing in tier 1 pressure there are some unknowns.

Well not shit we haven't seen any of this I'm just saying what I think as a neutral fan that really doesn't care about either team

But I stand by what I said I think Alfajer and kaajak are the better players

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Mortadelo [#18]

Well not shit we haven't seen any of this I'm just saying what I think as a neutral fan that really doesn't care about either team

But I stand by what I said I think Alfajer and kaajak are the better players

fair enough

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Mortadelo [#18]

Well not shit we haven't seen any of this I'm just saying what I think as a neutral fan that really doesn't care about either team

But I stand by what I said I think Alfajer and kaajak are the better players

Both are good in their own ways , Alfajer always puts up duelist numbers while playing sentinal , while nAts is more of a lurker always finding for timings. Playstyles are very different among these players.

#21
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why tf are yall still on the leo and chron to liquid boat?

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ionlyHave1Zuni [#13]

better than 😴 emea games. 0 aura players

i dont get the emea hate, its not like emea is going to kill you. its funny though ig

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Mortadelo [#15]

You're just replacing alfajer with nats and being realistic Alfajer is a far better player. And Keiko is not better than kaajak

fuck no, alfa doesnt have better viper cypher or kj than nAts. he can hit cool shots but so can nAts, also keiko and kaajak cant really be a debate, id get it one more year or atleast 2 before we see anything. rookie seasons i dont really rate much

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kalayav_n [#23]

fuck no, alfa doesnt have better viper cypher or kj than nAts. he can hit cool shots but so can nAts, also keiko and kaajak cant really be a debate, id get it one more year or atleast 2 before we see anything. rookie seasons i dont really rate much

Alfa has a better KJ than nats; Worse Cypher and Viper I agree

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kalayav_n [#23]

fuck no, alfa doesnt have better viper cypher or kj than nAts. he can hit cool shots but so can nAts, also keiko and kaajak cant really be a debate, id get it one more year or atleast 2 before we see anything. rookie seasons i dont really rate much

brother nats has not been better than Alfajer for a solid 2 years now

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catNmouse [#24]

Alfa has a better KJ than nats; Worse Cypher and Viper I agree

Its purely aim that alfa is better in but gamesense and timings nAts is wayyy better.

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Ryukzerr [#26]

Its purely aim that alfa is better in but gamesense and timings nAts is wayyy better.

even in aim everyone is cracked, its just alfa has snappy aim + vandal tax

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Mortadelo [#25]

brother nats has not been better than Alfajer for a solid 2 years now

nAts got sold out, you cant tell me if you put nAts on a competitive team he wouldnt be the best sentinel by far? look at what happened with LESS when he got dogshit teammates/org management;

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kalayav_n [#28]

nAts got sold out, you cant tell me if you put nAts on a competitive team he wouldnt be the best sentinel by far? look at what happened with LESS when he got dogshit teammates/org management;

I disagree but why would he be on a good team if this happens? He would most likely have to be the IGL to begin with instead of having boaster to do that. I think it would actually look rough for him

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Mortadelo [#29]

I disagree but why would he be on a good team if this happens? He would most likely have to be the IGL to begin with instead of having boaster to do that. I think it would actually look rough for him

sorry english is my second language can you rephrase that, i understood nothing sorry 😭

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kalayav_n [#30]

sorry english is my second language can you rephrase that, i understood nothing sorry 😭

It's mb probably. I'm saying if this project was to go through for TL nats probably would be the IGL so it actually would look very rough for him in my opinion

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Mortadelo [#31]

It's mb probably. I'm saying if this project was to go through for TL nats probably would be the IGL so it actually would look very rough for him in my opinion

not rly they can just sign a igl and let keiko play duelist

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Ryukzerr [#32]

not rly they can just sign a igl and let keiko play duelist

If they wanted an IGL they already would have signed one. Nats is gonna IGL 90%

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Mortadelo [#33]

If they wanted an IGL they already would have signed one. Nats is gonna IGL 90%

Yes i know but if they were going to go with that plan they couldve easily signed an IGL and let nAts off the calling if they dont its his choice to IGL.

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Ryukzerr [#34]

Yes i know but if they were going to go with that plan they couldve easily signed an IGL and let nAts off the calling if they dont its his choice to IGL.

They could have but I don't think they would have. Either way we're just peculating

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kalayav_n
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Mortadelo [#31]

It's mb probably. I'm saying if this project was to go through for TL nats probably would be the IGL so it actually would look very rough for him in my opinion

yeah understandable but honestly think he still performs, but i have my highs on him

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Zeron
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kalayav_n [#22]

i dont get the emea hate, its not like emea is going to kill you. its funny though ig

region beef. as long as I see great valorant then I woulnd't care which region it is

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Zaba
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Nats vs TL and less

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kalayav_n
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Zeron [#37]

region beef. as long as I see great valorant then I woulnd't care which region it is

fr plus i dont get the regional beef, like WE LITERALLY HAVE one of the best IGL's whos from africa, one of the best aimers demon1 from russia and half their trophies came from SA so i dont get the whole NA narrative lol

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Mortadelo [#18]

Well not shit we haven't seen any of this I'm just saying what I think as a neutral fan that really doesn't care about either team

But I stand by what I said I think Alfajer and kaajak are the better players

nats is a better senti for sure. But alfa has definitely better aim.

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Congo1 [#40]

nats is a better senti for sure. But alfa has definitely better aim.

what does that mean tho? I might have better sentinel fundamentals and util than Alfajer but that doesn't make me the better sentinel

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Mortadelo [#41]

what does that mean tho? I might have better sentinel fundamentals and util than Alfajer but that doesn't make me the better sentinel

he knows really well how to hold down a site. Survive as long as possible and be a rat they cannot get their hands on.

On offense his lurks obviously have great timing and just very smart.

Obviously if alfa peeks down long he is gonna fry much harder than nats sure.

Personally i have been arguing for a long time to put alfa on duelist. even ini or flex would be better than senti.

If i already have great firepower on the team i for sure pick nats in senti role.

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Congo1 [#42]

he knows really well how to hold down a site. Survive as long as possible and be a rat they cannot get their hands on.

On offense his lurks obviously have great timing and just very smart.

Obviously if alfa peeks down long he is gonna fry much harder than nats sure.

Personally i have been arguing for a long time to put alfa on duelist. even ini or flex would be better than senti.

If i already have great firepower on the team i for sure pick nats in senti role.

I think Alfajer does all those things just as well other than the lurking. Maybe not in the same way but would still take down 3.

Idk I don't think there's a rational way of explaining it. Ig it's just preference

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would be fire, but liquid would also need a proper igl(assuming we want nats to perform to his best ability) who would they even get? Ange1? Magnum?

nAts
Leo
Chronicle
Keiko
Mystery Igl

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Sidyon [#44]

would be fire, but liquid would also need a proper igl(assuming we want nats to perform to his best ability) who would they even get? Ange1? Magnum?

nAts
Leo
Chronicle
Keiko
Mystery Igl

i do not want ange1

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kalayav_n
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Sidyon [#44]

would be fire, but liquid would also need a proper igl(assuming we want nats to perform to his best ability) who would they even get? Ange1? Magnum?

nAts
Leo
Chronicle
Keiko
Mystery Igl

sheydos nAts IGL into a different role would be fine

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