GC isn’t ready yet.

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ParisVLR

I am sorry to say this but GC players aren’t ready for T1. I made a thread about this awhile back, but with all the good talent there is in the market why would teams go look at GC players.

And besides that I don’t think NA GC is that good. Sorry NA

You have the team that won the GC championship and they are getting 0-2 by randoms.

Until the players become as good as T1 pros you won’t see them on any franchised teams.

Don’t call me sexsist or I take part in transphobia. Because it’s just the truth nobody wants to say so.

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Froggy0_0

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grass is green
apart from a few the rest are shit

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ParisVLR

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https://www.vlr.gg/post/4153546/eg-flor

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fuck english

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DrudaL

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gc never meant for T1, gc is for those extra that can't compete in T2

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EG GC roster got 13-1d in ranked by a 5 stack of random low mid immortals.

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Don't doubt it at all but can I see some proof

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Itsover

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Join VCC discord and dig through messages in NA chat, it was like 6-7 months ago aint doing allat

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Itsover

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OK I found it
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1034482151397281914/1179161825431015424/IMG_4469.jpg?ex=66f67146&is=66f51fc6&hm=de5633d23b637a52060e67baa2376b206fc8c7e4448ae927541ad343bfcd3964&=&format=webp

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The problem is that youre judging entire teams while discussion is about individuals. GC teams are not good in the grand scheme and nobody is gonna tell you otherwise. Most of the GC players have less experience, are supported less by their orgs and dont have any of the framework around them that T1 teams do. If someone like florescent doesnt succeed with a team like SR, that doesnt mean she couldnt do it on another roster. Theres plenty of great T2 talent that was stuck on very mediocre teams.

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ParisVLR

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Fluorescent shouldn’t be in GC at all. That’s all I am going to say.

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Should probably clarify if thats just transphobia

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ParisVLR

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Way ahead of the competion. It doesn’t even look far sometimes. GC players aren’t as advanced yet it’s like putting a high school football player against elementary kids.

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Yuniee44

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I mean I guess so? The thing is, I think she should be playing t2 minimum and would probably be good, but iirc there is a decent amount of teams that just straight refuse playing with/trialing female players. If shes allowed to play and hasnt found any better opportunities its fair game. Besides excluding players of playing too good is just a tough line to cross. At what point do we just ban the entire G2 gozen roster from playing or sumn

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There's tier 1 talent stuck on mediocre teams like nAts or sheydos too, if you have 3-4 horrible bots on ur team you won't perform no matter how good you are since 1v5ing on a regular basis is just impossible in pro play.

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GC isn't good flor is

even in those 0-2s u mentioned she was near MVP (now don't give me 1 link to prove ur point dat she bot Fragged, coz there would be 10 more where she performed against d same type of randoms)

Her skillset is much ABV GC but prolly mid for T1 and when MiBR IS going for such a RANDOM PPL she definitely deserves a chance

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It's kinda insane how there's rarely ever a grounded take around this.Top 4-5 GC teams have just barely started making any sort of moves in VCL qualifiers (looking at TL BR, MIBR, G2G). Until a GC team makes it in VCL, there shouldn't be a T1 debate. And if a GC player stands out in T2, only then should it begin.

And if a GC player thinks they can do better outside of GC, they should take the risk and leave the sphere. Being in a "power of friendship" team only gets u so far outside of GC.

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espeon

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teams are bad, players are good, will probably be a while until we see a gc player in t1 but i think itll happen

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IHaveAnswers

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I wish good players in GC would play and grind T2 instead of just farming stats in GC, but I kind of understand their way since GC pays more and T2 is just shit in terms of stability

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remember? when G2 gozen got 13-0ed by Team Heretics