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#1
Uncleben

You know which female pro might hold her own in t1 valo? I bet vania could actually be a decent tier 1 smokes player
Ik ranked doesn’t mean much but most gc pros barely even have a 1kd in radiant ranked while vania has better stats than a good few franchised pros

Low key she should play in tier 2 Emea

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she was an igl before too

i dont think she could be tier 1 but i think g2 gozen have a chance at making tier 2 together. they are way better than shopify

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here is a thought, even if she is good enough
tier 2 emea is not funded
GC is funded

now who would give up their stable job for an unstable one?

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Uncleben
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kanyefan4238173 [#2]

she was an igl before too

i dont think she could be tier 1 but i think g2 gozen have a chance at making tier 2 together. they are way better than shopify

Nah bro low key if she alone played on a mixed team she could be tier 1 low key
Like she wouldn’t be a superstar but she wouldn’t be the worst smokes in Emea either

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the huge problem with gc is that everyone focuses on hating the trans people so they ignore the other good players

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Uncleben
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number2_cNed_fan [#3]

here is a thought, even if she is good enough
tier 2 emea is not funded
GC is funded

now who would give up their stable job for an unstable one?

I mean facts for sure but surely we need mixed teams to elevate the skill level of female players? If they only do gc they will never reach a similar level

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Uncleben [#4]

Nah bro low key if she alone played on a mixed team she could be tier 1 low key
Like she wouldn’t be a superstar but she wouldn’t be the worst smokes in Emea either

who would she be better than in tier 1

id take atakaptan and ruxic over her as turkish smokers

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kanyefan4238173 [#7]

who would she be better than in tier 1

id take atakaptan and ruxic over her as turkish smokers

Idk abt ata but she low key could ruxic level, she has similar ranked stats to him (Ik it’s only ranked but we don’t have anything else to
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She should try trialing for a few teams low key to see how good she is

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XtraChrxs [#5]

the huge problem with gc is that everyone focuses on hating the trans people so they ignore the other good players

Seriously, I also think noia is a very good player

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Uncleben [#6]

I mean facts for sure but surely we need mixed teams to elevate the skill level of female players? If they only do gc they will never reach a similar level

yeah, the only issue is that there is no incentive to leave unless you can be a stable T1 player

Personally, its only worth the risk for 1 or 2 players. I understand them for not wanting to take that risk

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Uncleben [#8]

Idk abt ata but she low key could ruxic level, she has similar ranked stats to him (Ik it’s only ranked but we don’t have anything else to
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She should try trialing for a few teams low key to see how good she is

actually ykw i agree
i dont think shes as good as ruxic but she is rlly good and maybe could be tier 1. i think shed be one of the worse smokers in emea but i agree shes at least near that level

best gc player itw id say

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kanyefan4238173 [#11]

actually ykw i agree
i dont think shes as good as ruxic but she is rlly good and maybe could be tier 1. i think shed be one of the worse smokers in emea but i agree shes at least near that level

best gc player itw id say

100% the best gc player
At the very least she’s definitely holding her own in tier 2 Val

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number2_cNed_fan [#10]

yeah, the only issue is that there is no incentive to leave unless you can be a stable T1 player

Personally, its only worth the risk for 1 or 2 players. I understand them for not wanting to take that risk

I can see this becoming a problem in the future when gc becomes even more lucrative and players refuse to take a chance in tier 2

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XtraChrxs [#5]

the huge problem with gc is that everyone focuses on hating the trans people so they ignore the other good players

But how come only the trans players are the best ones

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calImegod [#14]

But how come only the trans players are the best ones

vania is better than any trans player

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Uncleben
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calImegod [#14]

But how come only the trans players are the best ones

Isn’t fluorescent the only dominant trans player in gc? None of the g2 gozen players are trans, or the TL players either and both those teams dominate

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kanyefan4238173 [#15]

vania is better than any trans player

Flor clears her hard

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calImegod [#17]

Flor clears her hard

watch champs soon

g2 will 3-0 that shitty team

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Uncleben [#16]

Isn’t fluorescent the only dominant trans player in gc? None of the g2 gozen players are trans, or the TL players either and both those teams dominate

thats my point , nobody recognizes good players, its just a reason to hate on the gc scene

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calImegod
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kanyefan4238173 [#18]

watch champs soon

g2 will 3-0 that shitty team

G2 will 3-0 and Flor will drop 120

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calImegod [#17]

Flor clears her hard

At best flor and vania are equals, flor does not “clear her hard”

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XtraChrxs [#19]

thats my point , nobody recognizes good players, its just a reason to hate on the gc scene

I mean are u surprised? Even if there were zero trans players mfs would still be trying to dunk on gc
At least there’s more female players in valo, my hope is that eventually in valo or some valo sequel we will have fully mixed tier 1 teams

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XtraChrxs [#19]

thats my point , nobody recognizes good players, its just a reason to hate on the gc scene

they hate women but that’s not as socially acceptable as hating trans people so they hate on trans people instead

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Uncleben [#22]

I mean are u surprised? Even if there were zero trans players mfs would still be trying to dunk on gc
At least there’s more female players in valo, my hope is that eventually in valo or some valo sequel we will have fully mixed tier 1 teams

Chet on stream said tier 1 valorant allow female players to compete but no teams picked them up lol

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calImegod [#24]

Chet on stream said tier 1 valorant allow female players to compete but no teams picked them up lol

Yeah they are obviously not good enough yet, but that’s no need to dunk on them for, at the end of the day they are just trying to get better

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XtraChrxs [#19]

thats my point , nobody recognizes good players, its just a reason to hate on the gc scene

crazy how people are trying to forward this bullshit rhetoric that "trans players dominate the scene"

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calImegod [#27]

https://www.vlr.gg/279603/team-heretics-vs-g2-gozen-red-bull-home-ground-4-emea-qualifier-round-robin

  1. Vania wasn’t playing there, I specified vania as she is clearly head and shoulders above basically every gc pro except flor
  2. That’s the second best team in the entire fucking world
  3. If you put a good players on a bad team they will struggle, I didn’t claim that g2 gozen were franchise ready
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Uncleben [#28]
  1. Vania wasn’t playing there, I specified vania as she is clearly head and shoulders above basically every gc pro except flor
  2. That’s the second best team in the entire fucking world
  3. If you put a good players on a bad team they will struggle, I didn’t claim that g2 gozen were franchise ready

Comment wasn't targeted towards your post but some comments

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calImegod [#29]

Comment wasn't targeted towards your post but some comments

Ah my bad then
I definitely don’t think gc players in general are franchise ready, but I think 1 or 2 of them might be able to hold their in franchise or at least tier 2(vania and maybe flor)

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Uncleben [#30]

Ah my bad then
I definitely don’t think gc players in general are franchise ready, but I think 1 or 2 of them might be able to hold their in franchise or at least tier 2(vania and maybe flor)

Yeah I think Flor and Vania could make good runs in ascension on good teams. Most GC players are just pure shit idk if it's just lack of management, funding or what

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calImegod [#31]

Yeah I think Flor and Vania could make good runs in ascension on good teams. Most GC players are just pure shit idk if it's just lack of management, funding or what

I think it’s for the same reason that Indian or Oceania pros aren’t as good as na or Emea pros simply because there are fewer of them so smaller talent pool
Basically, fps games were never marketed towards woman and sexism in those communities pushed woman away from taking them seriously so there’s fewer woman that have played fps games seriously for years making them good enough to go pro

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Uncleben [#9]

Seriously, I also think noia is a very good player

noia is horrible. I get why people think Flor is good because Flor at least mega farms GC but noia can't even do that and is even worse against non GC teams.

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