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VCT 2024 AWARDS (REAL)

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Gummybears

Best Initiator - Riens
Best Smokes - Smoggy
Best Duelist - Kangkang / t3xture
Best IGL - Boo
Best Senti - CHICHOO / meteor
Best Flex - Chronicle

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spe4rch
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Sneaked chronicle in

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Gummybears
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spe4rch [#2]

Sneaked chronicle in

snuck

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kanyefan4238173
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munchkin >>>> boo

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spe4rch
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Gummybears [#3]

snuck

You think you did summ? Both snuck and sneaked are viable

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spe4rch [#5]

You think you did summ? Both snuck and sneaked are viable

thought

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kanyefan4238173
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spe4rch [#5]

You think you did summ? Both snuck and sneaked are viable

why would u say sneaked tho

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gamingtaming
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best flex smoggy

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josef_ow
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bro chichoo is not a smokes player, he only plays smokes when edg run no senti. Smoggy is a smokes player and I think he was the best smokes player at the event. And i love team heretics but benjy or meteor were not the best senti, chichoo was. Otherwise I kinda agree, other than the fact that boo being the best igl is kinda controversial, I would just give best igl to nobody since he won the event. (even though im the biggest nobody hater and ive been praying on his downfall for years at this point)

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Senti is clearly Meteor

Boo small shoulders from not lifting trophies

Chronicle has one playoff win the entire year, and the only run Fnatic was relevant he only really played 2 agents (the real best flex this year is zellsis but people aren't ready for that convo it seems). The only line of reasoning that could make Chronicle the best flex this year would also make Primmie a top 3 player in the world.

I disagree with the duelist and smokes picks too but at least there can be a reasonable case made for them, for the three listed above there cannot.

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josef_ow [#9]

bro chichoo is not a smokes player, he only plays smokes when edg run no senti. Smoggy is a smokes player and I think he was the best smokes player at the event. And i love team heretics but benjy or meteor were not the best senti, chichoo was. Otherwise I kinda agree, other than the fact that boo being the best igl is kinda controversial, I would just give best igl to nobody since he won the event. (even though im the biggest nobody hater and ive been praying on his downfall for years at this point)

nobody trolls far too much, I simply can't bring myself to.
I genuinely believe boo is the most balanced igl in terms of fragging and calling this year

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i think karon beats chichooo as a smokes player. yes chichooo performed at an insane level in champs but karon was insane all year around PLUS he was also a rookie.
munchkin clears boo. if you watched the other final boo got outread sooo many times it was pretty insane
flex has to be woot, chronicle was good but woot was on another level

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Yuh_aye [#10]

Senti is clearly Meteor

Boo small shoulders from not lifting trophies

Chronicle has one playoff win the entire year, and the only run Fnatic was relevant he only really played 2 agents (the real best flex this year is zellsis but people aren't ready for that convo it seems). The only line of reasoning that could make Chronicle the best flex this year would also make Primmie a top 3 player in the world.

I disagree with the duelist and smokes picks too but at least there can be a reasonable case made for them, for the three listed above there cannot.

chronicle was the highest rated player in emea whilst zellsis is like 30th in Americas
chronicle single handedly dragged his team into a 5-6th finish
the only excuse you can make for zellsis is his midrounding and the 'vibes'

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alpine007 [#12]

i think karon beats chichooo as a smokes player. yes chichooo performed at an insane level in champs but karon was insane all year around PLUS he was also a rookie.
munchkin clears boo. if you watched the other final boo got outread sooo many times it was pretty insane
flex has to be woot, chronicle was good but woot was on another level

see the thing is, i think woot is just sm better on duelist than he is on flex. i couldn't put him as the best flex player

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sentinelmain377
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Shit

#16
sentinelmain377
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Gummybears [#6]

thought

Chronicle - flex
Zekken - duelist
RieNs - initiator
Meteor - sentinel
Karon - controller
Munchkin - igl

No edg player is making this bro. It is a whole year list, not champions only

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Gummybears
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sentinelmain377 [#15]

Shit

so basically geng - lakia
(why did u edit it mate)

#18
Darkhunter
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Anyone from EMEA should not be put in anywhere in best since they suck and did not win a trophy this year....

#19
WhoseTao
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Best smokes is not smoggy, duelist is texture, igl is munchkin, and senti is meteor

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Yuh_aye
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Gummybears [#13]

chronicle was the highest rated player in emea whilst zellsis is like 30th in Americas
chronicle single handedly dragged his team into a 5-6th finish
the only excuse you can make for zellsis is his midrounding and the 'vibes'

Zellsis' 'vibes' (+ his flexible agent pool) completely changed the nature of SEN when he swapped in for pancada (who is a better player than him, but still).

Sure Chronicle had great domestic results, but so does team liquid, so lets talk about internationals.

Madrid

In grand finals he played 4 agents on 3 roles (init, controller, and senti) and was a map 5 monster. This alone clears Chronicles entire year btw

Shanghai
Despite Zellsis not appearing, they actually both had the exact same amount of wins. And while we don't have ratings for this, we know Chron had a lower ACS than Zellsis at madrid. Also, Chron really shit the bed by going 8/16 -> 3/16 final two maps elimination game vs FUT

Champs
Chronicle is arguably not even a flex anymore, he only plays 2 agents. Zellsis is still playing 4 agents on 3 different roles. Zellsis also goes further than Chron, and plays better teams. Yes, Chron has a much higher rating, but if you only decide who's the best on each role by rating - which is what you'd be doing by declaring chronicle the best flex at champs (if he even is one at this point, see first line) - then you must also conclude that primmie is a top 3 player in the world, which is ridiculous.

Keep in mind, who had a better year and who is a better player are completely different things.

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Trevor52lv
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Is this meant to be for the year or just champs?

Including Texture for duelist makes me assume for the year? If that's the case, Karon is far and away the best smokes player. Arguably a top 3 player in the world for like 70% of the year. Smoggy also wasn't consistently playing smokes until the start of Split 2, so he's a good bit down for me I'm this conversation. Duelist would also be Texture for the year.

Everyone else works well for the year, at least to the point that you can make a reasonable argument. Everything else you've got would prob be my personal pick, apart from Boo, depending how you weight thing for IGL pick.

#22
DiFFy
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IGL should be munchkin / johnqt

#23
Itsover
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alpine007 [#12]

i think karon beats chichooo as a smokes player. yes chichooo performed at an insane level in champs but karon was insane all year around PLUS he was also a rookie.
munchkin clears boo. if you watched the other final boo got outread sooo many times it was pretty insane
flex has to be woot, chronicle was good but woot was on another level

Woot sucks compared to chronicle, you have to be drunk to not see that wo0t is a tier 2 player at best

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Gummybears
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Yuh_aye [#20]

Zellsis' 'vibes' (+ his flexible agent pool) completely changed the nature of SEN when he swapped in for pancada (who is a better player than him, but still).

Sure Chronicle had great domestic results, but so does team liquid, so lets talk about internationals.

Madrid

In grand finals he played 4 agents on 3 roles (init, controller, and senti) and was a map 5 monster. This alone clears Chronicles entire year btw

Shanghai
Despite Zellsis not appearing, they actually both had the exact same amount of wins. And while we don't have ratings for this, we know Chron had a lower ACS than Zellsis at madrid. Also, Chron really shit the bed by going 8/16 -> 3/16 final two maps elimination game vs FUT

Champs
Chronicle is arguably not even a flex anymore, he only plays 2 agents. Zellsis is still playing 4 agents on 3 different roles. Zellsis also goes further than Chron, and plays better teams. Yes, Chron has a much higher rating, but if you only decide who's the best on each role by rating - which is what you'd be doing by declaring chronicle the best flex at champs (if he even is one at this point, see first line) - then you must also conclude that primmie is a top 3 player in the world, which is ridiculous.

Keep in mind, who had a better year and who is a better player are completely different things.

https://www.vlr.gg/378834/sentinels-vs-fnatic-valorant-champions-2024-lr2/?game=180450&tab=overview
20 more kills in a map is crazy

#25
aspassonjiezounb
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B00 got fked by nobody.Best IGL could be nobody/boo/johnqt/munchkin

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aspassonjiezounb
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gamingtaming [#8]

best flex smoggy

he's now not flexing like what he did before.he's now the controller

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