so was sen overrated or no?

i cant tell

everyone had them getting grouped

no, they played both EDG and TH pretty close and got top 4

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everyone had them getting grouped

Half of everyone had them getting grouped... the other half had them winning the whole thing, usually without losing a game

Everyone hated on them and had them way down in groups

they were supposed to be 3rd or 4th in their group but made it all the way 4th in champs

averaging out all the haters and diehard fans I would say about evenly rated

fairly rated as of rn