Fixing every Americas roster for next season

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Yuh_aye

extended version of my previous post - https://www.vlr.gg/368075/fixing-every-na-roster-for-next-season
Obviously not meant to be whats realistically gonna happen.
Only imports are Cloud and Nats because they've deserved better than what EMEA has been giving them for a LONG time

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NRG
Cloud
Demon1
N4rrate
S0m
FNS
(mce)

SEN
Verno
Zekken
Tenz
Johnqt
Zellsis

G2
Jawgemo
Leaf
Valyn
JonahP
Trent

EG
Reduxx/Mada/Koala (my choice is Mada)
Stellar
Derrek
Supamen/Skuba (my choice is Skuba)
Nats

C9
Flyuh
Zander
Brawk
Ethan
Oxy

100T
Nismo
Cryo
Bang
Boostio
Eeui

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LEV
Nzr
Aspas
Kingg
Tex
Mazino

KRU
Honestly just run it back the roster is fine and the talent is there they just need to learn how to win

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LOUD
Mwzera
Saadhak
Less
Pancada
Caunzin

FURIA
Sacy
Tuyz
I like Artzin/Havoc
Slot 4
Slot 5
I don't know anything about Brazilian t2 so just pick up whoever makes sense for slots 3/4/5

MIBR
They're gonna get relegated and replaced by whoever wins ascension so the problem fixes itself.

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ButterflyEffect23

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no Rossy :/

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Yuh_aye

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maybe for flyuh or stellar but i have more faith in them and think they deserve a shot to prove themselves

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Siigma777

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you did not watch pacific if you don't believe rossy deserves a spot over them

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Hyssopus1

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We don't need a fix ty

#6

Yuh_aye

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We shall see...

#12

catNmouse

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i don’t think he’d comd back after getting fucked over

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Hyssopus1

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i always come back.

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Sidyon

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c0m already diffed nzr and people are still saying nzr over c0m?

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catNmouse

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i know nzr is igling and all but how good is he at mid rounding compared to c0m?

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AlexSMTx

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that's the problem when trying to rate players for their IGLing, midrounding ,or even for their 2nd caller abilities. We don't have detailed comms for every round, so we'll never know and all we can do is guess.

Then, if you wanna make things more complicated you can add the coach factor. Each coach, player and strat is different so we don't know much the way the team moves and plays around the map is due to the coach really enforcing a certain playstyle or the IGL having leeway to do whatever they want midround.

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Sidyon

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well considering the fact that last time we saw kinggg igl without help it looked horrible, and now lev are a "superteam" I'd assume c0m's midrounding(he helped boostio midround on eg) is better

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lielahh

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NATS WITH POTTER IM FROTHING

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ButterflyEffect23

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relax bro

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lielahh

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nats with good teammates would be so hype

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ButterflyEffect23

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it would be, but he's not leaving Liquid anytime soon :(

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lielahh

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#letsgoliquid (i’m a th fan for champs though)

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thenutoriousPRO

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asuna hate is so forced

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Yuh_aye

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Nismo just as good on raze, but actually a consistent player

+deadlock

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thenutoriousPRO

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nismo is obv gonna look better on raze and be consistant when hes playing on t2

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Docta

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Stats wise Asuna has a better raze and astronomically better kayo vs better teams

Also considering the fact that nismo has had a falloff this year

I don’t think that would be a worthwhile change

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Yuh_aye

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You know that M80 had a mid-season roster crisis where they lost their IGL right? (kinda an important role)
That probably explains his 'falloff' where he's still one of the best players in challengers.
And last year he was by far the best t2 player for the entire year

1st place main league - https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1458/challengers-league-north-america
2nd place ascension tourney - https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1653/champions-tour-2023-americas-ascension?exclude=&min_rounds=0&agent=all

You know was there with him? Tex, EEIU, Valyn, Verno, N4rrate, Oxy, JonahP, Trent, Moose, Governor, Mada. Nismo was better than all of them last year. And this year when he's in a 'slump' (which there's a very good reason for, as explained earlier), he has a 1.10 rating.

Asuna has had a good year, if this continue's there's no case for replacing him, but lets not act like prior to this season he wasn't the posterchild of inconsistency.

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Docta

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Just think that Asuna has been good regionally and internationally this year and has proven that he’s a solid piece

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playready

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Facts

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dort

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NRG does not need another shitmea player on their roster

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Yuh_aye

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nah cloud is the truth bro trust, plus the food bill will be lower

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lolxd

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you're so real with the mibr fact

#24

Simp4S0m

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NRG mce

no thx, we don't need someone who ruin player's career in our team

#25

Yuh_aye

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brother they need any help they can get after that season

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Simp4S0m

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Yay definitely needed his help but instead he ruined him.

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StalwartTiger_35

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cloud in nrg lmao, if ur gonna add an memea player at least add a good one

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jasonWong

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bro lmao , zellsis is the weakest link in sen , not sacy

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Yuh_aye

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Zellsis is literally the glue, SEN falls apart without him.

Let me start by saying for Sacy that he is a legend and a great player. But Verno is literally the biggest prospect in the entire region, and he plays Sacy's role/agents, is a proven stud, and is a definite firepower upgrade. He would also be a fantastic long term investment, given that unfortunately Sacy is getting up there career wise.

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hellfire

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lev doesn't need nzr, com alr brings value w top tier utility just like sacy in sen

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Diebs

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why do people hate sacy
every roster I see people immediately swap sacy with literally anyone
he's not going back to brazil and staying on sen, one of the best player on that team

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Yuh_aye

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see my comment above
tldr: Verno good on same agents, better firepower, better long-term investment

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Huitzilopochtli

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bro u are actually cooking on this one, for Furia Sato and Blowz would be good and Sacy IGL (as he said he wouldve igled Sentinels but couldnt bcs he lacked perfect english), i would love to see ur take on emea if you have any knowledge abt T2 in Emea