Heretics are the best team rn
kristof [#5]With miniboo they are. Even with a sub they almost beat geng
they did NOT almost beat gen g:
x_knowitall39_x [#9]they did NOT almost beat gen g:
Geng got double ban lmao
Heretics with a sub were better on 4/7 maps
mocaxoxo [#11]are we just forgetting geng
bleed pushed them and they looked shakey i dont think they will perform great with the new meta
sentinelmain377 [#12]Geng got double ban lmao
Heretics with a sub were better on 4/7 maps
Geng got double ban and lost to sen ?
nihso [#14]Geng got double ban and lost to sen ?
SEN were just better than GENG more than TH with a sub were better than GENG
both teams were better than GENG tho
ur just stupid asfuck
sentinelmain377 [#16]SEN were just better than GENG more than TH with a sub were better than GENG
both teams were better than GENG tho
ur just stupid asfuck
So why will geng beat th at champs??
nihso [#17]So why will geng beat th at champs??
this sped fuck is illiterate lmfao
they have Miniboo now. correct roles. no sub. a neon yoru meta as well.
Full Roster btw
https://www.vlr.gg/282836/team-heretics-vs-ucam-tokiers-crossfire-cup-2023-finals-qf
wonder what the excuse is gonna be
NASHiLOL [#13]bleed pushed them and they looked shakey i dont think they will perform great with the new meta
they were shakey in stage 1 and then won shanghai…
Yuh_aye [#19]Full Roster btw
https://www.vlr.gg/282836/team-heretics-vs-ucam-tokiers-crossfire-cup-2023-finals-qf
wonder what the excuse is gonna be
are u dumb
NASHiLOL [#21]are u dumb
Nah he braindead asf. Comparing a off-season match to their actual roster is crazy
nihso [#22]Nah he braindead asf. Comparing a off-season match to their actual roster is crazy
Just double checked and it is their actual roster
Yuh_aye [#23]Just double checked and it is their actual roster
Ok but this was off-season bro. No one was trying offseason
Yuh_aye [#23]Just double checked and it is their actual roster
He meant that off season match from 9 months ago isnt a good representation
nihso [#27]?
wonder what the excuse is gonna be
It went from "we didn't have our full roster" to "nah that doesnt count bro we weren't trying"
If I told you your life was on the line to guess who wins a bo5 Furia vs UCAM esports who would you pick?
If you cared about living you would choose Furia, cuz no franchise team should be losing vs these nobodies
Yuh_aye [#28]wonder what the excuse is gonna be
It went from "we didn't have our full roster" to "nah that doesnt count bro we weren't trying"
If I told you your life was on the line to guess who wins a bo5 Furia vs UCAM esports who would you pick?
If you cared about living you would choose Furia, cuz no franchise team should be losing vs these nobodies
I never said they didn't have their full roster. I said comparing their actual roster right now to an off-season game with their real roster doesn't make sense.
It's like comparing sen vs G2 in off-season compared to now
Yuh_aye [#28]wonder what the excuse is gonna be
It went from "we didn't have our full roster" to "nah that doesnt count bro we weren't trying"
If I told you your life was on the line to guess who wins a bo5 Furia vs UCAM esports who would you pick?
If you cared about living you would choose Furia, cuz no franchise team should be losing vs these nobodies
this retard doesn't understand the concept of a team improving 😭
syncz [#31]this retard doesn't understand the concept of a team improving 😭
It what am saying. Like what is his brain made for. To think and he can't do it
syncz [#31]this retard doesn't understand the concept of a team improving 😭
the thread is saying that TH is the best team rn
the only evidence for this claim is that they got 2nd (in a beatdown) "wHiLe pLaYinG WiTh a sUB"
I provided a match where they didn't have a sub, and they lost a bo5 to a team any franchised team should be embarassed to lose to.
Not enough? Too long ago? "nOt TrYiNg iN ofFsEaSoN"
Lost bo5 in reverse sweep to 2024 Fnatic (winless internationally, fighting for their life against BBL)
So what's the evidence for saying that Heretics is the best team rn? Beating Navi (washed for years atp)? Beating Fut (never been good)?
Yuh_aye [#33]the thread is saying that TH is the best team rn
the only evidence for this claim is that they got 2nd (in a beatdown) "wHiLe pLaYinG WiTh a sUB"
I provided a match where they didn't have a sub, and they lost a bo5 to a team any franchised team should be embarassed to lose to.
Not enough? Too long ago? "nOt TrYiNg iN ofFsEaSoN"
Lost bo5 in reverse sweep to 2024 Fnatic (winless internationally, fighting for their life against BBL)
So what's the evidence for saying that Heretics is the best team rn? Beating Navi (washed for years atp)? Beating Fut (never been good)?
have u ever heard of improvement??? U literally seeing improvement infront of ur eyes retard. TH go from losing to ucam to take FNATIC the 2 time and best team itw of 2023 to 5 maps. U gotta be like some specimen made in a lab
sentinelmain377 [#18]this sped fuck is illiterate lmfao
they have Miniboo now. correct roles. no sub. a neon yoru meta as well.
on paper, but things dont always go as u may think. Also the double ban is just an excuse get real bozo
nihso [#34]have u ever heard of improvement??? U literally seeing improvement infront of ur eyes retard. TH go from losing to ucam to take FNATIC the 2 time and best team itw of 2023 to 5 maps. U gotta be like some specimen made in a lab
I'll make it easy for you. Make the case for why Heretics is the best team in the world right now without using the phrase
"playing with sub" or anything related to that. And specifically, why they are forsure better than GEN.G.
Yuh_aye [#36]I'll make it easy for you. Make the case for why Heretics is the best team in the world right now without using the phrase
"playing with sub" or anything related to that. And specifically, why they are forsure better than GEN.G.
They aren't tho they like top 3 sen is the best but I can say why they are top 3.
TH mechanically are the 2nd best team itw even with or without the sub behind geng.
Their mid rounding is top 3 and their starts are fucking phenomenal.
Gen.G obviously had more experience playing in a grand finals and they prob really wanted that win bc of what happened in Madrid but them getting to 5 maps in TH first grand finals is not easy.
I wouldn't even count or ever said patitiek was a sub bc he played with them in kickoff and madrid.
sentinelmain377 [#18]this sped fuck is illiterate lmfao
they have Miniboo now. correct roles. no sub. a neon yoru meta as well.
just like how paper rex should have won champs since they got 3rd in tokyo with cgrs?
ejfeiofewipfefe [#35]on paper, but things dont always go as u may think. Also the double ban is just an excuse get real bozo
on paper, but things dont always go as u may think.
I agree with this
Also the double ban is just an excuse get real bozo
GENG deserved the win. but the fact that TH are better on 4/7 maps is true.
sentinelmain377 [#12]Geng got double ban lmao
Heretics with a sub were better on 4/7 maps
copium at its finest
nihso [#34]have u ever heard of improvement??? U literally seeing improvement infront of ur eyes retard. TH go from losing to ucam to take FNATIC the 2 time and best team itw of 2023 to 5 maps. U gotta be like some specimen made in a lab
when will u kids learn not to take the bait
Yuh_aye [#19]Full Roster btw
https://www.vlr.gg/282836/team-heretics-vs-ucam-tokiers-crossfire-cup-2023-finals-qf
wonder what the excuse is gonna be
too bad the EU cucks will ignore it cause they're illiterate 😭
they still can't accept the fact that GENG clears them 13-6, 13-6, 13-3
sentinelmain377 [#39]on paper, but things dont always go as u may think.
I agree with this
Also the double ban is just an excuse get real bozo
GENG deserved the win. but the fact that TH are better on 4/7 maps is true.
we see teams lose on their own map pick all the time. Just bec geng banned 2 maps doesnt mean they wouldnt have been able to best th on those maps