im actually curious how people thought +ethan -ardiis would take them from losing to bilibili twice to actually being a good team
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Ardiis massively underformed on NRG, whether he was a EU double agent or just not synergizing, everyone on that team did go on the record to say alot went wrong that wasn't just him and that it was only gonna be a roster for that season.
Ethan while not being a historically fragging out duelist he's been a consistent support player across multiple teams, plus he's played with at the time, s0m and FNS back on NRG 2022 and CS with FNS. Atleast in the context of this split, in the prior split we signed Demon1 to replace Ardiis, not Ethan.
MerkFreeks [#2]Ardiis massively underformed on NRG, whether he was a EU double agent or just not synergizing, everyone on that team did go on the record to say alot went wrong that wasn't just him and that it was only gonna be a roster for that season.
Ethan while not being a historically fragging out duelist he's been a consistent support player across multiple teams, plus he's played with at the time, s0m and FNS back on NRG 2022 and CS with FNS. Atleast in the context of this split, in the prior split we signed Demon1 to replace Ardiis, not Ethan.
When ardiis downperforms on NRG, NRG fans blame ardiis.
When yay downperforms on DSG and Bleed, NRG fans blame DSG and Bleed.🤡
MerkFreeks [#2]Ardiis massively underformed on NRG, whether he was a EU double agent or just not synergizing, everyone on that team did go on the record to say alot went wrong that wasn't just him and that it was only gonna be a roster for that season.
Ethan while not being a historically fragging out duelist he's been a consistent support player across multiple teams, plus he's played with at the time, s0m and FNS back on NRG 2022 and CS with FNS. Atleast in the context of this split, in the prior split we signed Demon1 to replace Ardiis, not Ethan.
Ardiis went 36/35 against BLG, he got his so you can't blame him for that. You also can't blame him for losing to Fnatic as the sage wall incident happened when NRG was already down 4-12
kristof [#5]When ardiis downperforms on NRG, NRG fans blame ardiis.
When yay downperforms on DSG and Bleed, NRG fans blame DSG and Bleed.🤡
not really, when bleed plays worse without yay, we blame bleed
Simp4S0m [#4]I don’t think they are better now that last year, but they are definitely better than the split 1 team. I don’t expect much from them this year but I’m sure they will rebuild around FNS and S0m next year. Ethan and Demon1 will most likely stay too
honestly most likely is +potter +jawgemo -victor -crashies -chet and demon1 gets on starting again
actual threepeat roster
nobody___100 [#7]not really, when bleed plays worse without yay, we blame bleed
DSG played better without yay
NRG played worse without ardiis
kristof [#9]DSG played better without yay
NRG played worse without ardiis
DSG was a shit team and a shit system tho
its literally proved by the clips we have
nobody___100 [#10]DSG was a shit team and a shit system tho
its literally proved by the clips we have
Yet they still managed to qualify for Mid-seasonal face off without yay
kristof [#11]Yet they still managed to qualify for Mid-seasonal face off without yay
watch the ardiis clip on yay then you'll understand the problem
nobody___100 [#12]watch the ardiis clip on yay then you'll understand the problem
Watch the matches and you’ll understand that the only problem was yay
kristof [#13]Watch the matches and you’ll understand that the only problem was yay
no it's because to sign yay they dropped their IGL, a move that almost never works because it's just that fucking stupid.
Vortax [#14]no it's because to sign yay they dropped their IGL, a move that almost never works because it's just that fucking stupid.
you mean steel? he was still a member of the roster when they first played with yay and lost
Vortax [#14]no it's because to sign yay they dropped their IGL, a move that almost never works because it's just that fucking stupid.
not only that, dsg probably paying yay 15k and the other guys are on 5k
no respect
same with bleed
BUFF163 [#15]you mean steel? he was still a member of the roster when they first played with yay and lost
1 game
BUFF163 [#18]DSG won against that team 2-0 before
their rosters weren't the same when they first played. OXG made a considerable upgrade
nobody___100 [#16]not only that, dsg probably paying yay 15k and the other guys are on 5k
no respect
same with bleed
Yeah the way they performed, it should have been the other way around
No respect for yay
Vortax [#19]their rosters weren't the same when they first played. OXG made a considerable upgrade
DSG made a considerable upgrade too, they added yay, the faker of valorant
BUFF163 [#21]DSG made a considerable upgrade too, they added yay, the faker of valorant
the difference is that the yay move was a bad decision in practice for a mix of IGL and role issues stemming from them going "Fuck it who cares about roles he's the best player in the world". OXG's change was actually calculated, made a lot of sense, and most important of all, worked in practice
nobody___100 [#8]honestly most likely is +potter +jawgemo -victor -crashies -chet and demon1 gets on starting again
actual threepeat roster
NRG goes into each year thinking they have a three-peat roster🤣 just like all the previous rosters, that hypothetical lineup will also probably flop
Vortax [#22]the difference is that the yay move was a bad decision in practice for a mix of IGL and role issues stemming from them going "Fuck it who cares about roles he's the best player in the world". OXG's change was actually calculated, made a lot of sense, and most important of all, worked in practice
Maybe if yay knew how to play with more agents, not just pre-nerf chamber, DSG and C9 wouldn't have had role issues. It's on yay no matter what
BUFF163 [#6]Ardiis went 36/35 against BLG, he got his so you can't blame him for that. You also can't blame him for losing to Fnatic as the sage wall incident happened when NRG was already down 4-12
I'm not blaming Ardiis specifically for those, he just wasn't coming as advertised like how he was performing on FPX in 2022, that could be a system thing but even now all of NAVI are underperforming to what their history would indicate. That roster of NRG across the board just underperformed, Tokyo was a good run but everyone shit the bed against cgrs. BLG was on everyone, they all lost to whzy judge.
Sage wall incident was pretty funny but yeah they lost that game awhile before that.
kristof [#5]When ardiis downperforms on NRG, NRG fans blame ardiis.
When yay downperforms on DSG and Bleed, NRG fans blame DSG and Bleed.🤡
who said shit about Yay and DSG other than you, lmao
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