Polish:
Kaajak
Kamo
patitek
Kamyk
zeek (igl)
Mixed :
Xeus
DaviH
wackie/waddle (whichever one is the IGL at dsyre)
Profek
Fizzy
Turkish:
Izzy
Ruxic
Sociable (IGL)
Hiro
Anima
Onur is way more proven than doombros because he has succeeded with different roster that played similar styles which means his methodology works. He has also scouted world class players like Less or Shy who were completely unknown
Doombros has been by Ange1’s side his entire career so you literally have no clue who did what and if he’ll be successful on his own. But if you don’t wanna laugh, laugh all you want but your only argument so far is he has a trophy
Onur was the coach intended for the Loud world champion team, and is who built the roster, as a I said scouting Less amongst other things. Deal fell through last moment because he did not want to get vaccinated
Idk what you’re trying to imply with the antistrat thing, Onur can antistart aswell. But my initial point is, you don’t know which % of those strats are Doombros and which is Ange1 or someone elses
"0nur is more proven" Nahh bru i cant 😭😭☠ Youre telling me that a mf who got 2 top 8 finishes(they were getting sent indirectly to playoffs cuz they were #1 latam seed(not like that was hard to accomplish) and a disasterous 2023 proved more than a coach who instantly led his team to be one of the best in EMEA, won his first International tournament, could potentially win champs22 if they wouldnt troll map veto and didnt choke 9-2, got top 4 at lockin while having extremely close maps against FNC, sure he trolled in tokyo but got his shit back and made his team look like top6 at champs23. And if you actually watched NAVI's videos you would know that Ange1 only does calling, some troll comps and few strats, everything else was in the hands of doombros and he is not relying on him to do allat. Especially antistratting, which is extremely important in EMEA and he has proved he is one of the best coaches itw at it.
We're gonna have to agree to disagree but you read what I said. If you wanna rank coaches off of results go ahead but I think it's a terrible way to do it. By that logic I could say bzka is more proven because he led LOUD to champs lol
You have never seen dombros work outside of Navi and you're not in the team so you can't know how important he was from the outside, just can't. That is what I mean by proven, take it as you want