Legit question

Do you guys think the teams this year have been pretty lack luster in terms of level or is that just me?
I feel like the only teams that have looked truly good are GenG, SEN, and tbh thats it imo.

Idk maybe its cause i cant watch live and that might affect the way I view these teams but I feel like the skill level of teams this year seems lower. And I dont think that should be possible due to the advancements made throughout the seasons. TH look like the best team in the world, then the worst. FUT look horrible then look great. FNC are just mid rn. 100T seems great but so bad at times that I cant rate them that high, same thing with PRX. EDG look bad. Lev look so amazing, yet so bad.

G2 are probably my highlight but they're the reverse TH, look like the worst team ever, then look amazing, but I don't trust them all that much to bring it home (god i hope they do).

nah bru overall level has increased across the board so teams look less dominant but i will say i do think EG and PRX last year would be very good and would place high at all these events.

No. Unlike last year basically every team has their macro down. That's why there are so many upsets. If some of the games were played on a different day, there would be a completely different bracket from what we see now.

Ballsamolee [#3]

No. Unlike last year basically every team has their macro down. That's why there are so many upsets. If some of the games were played on a different day, there would be a completely different bracket from what we see now.

I dont think its due to macro play tho, I think its purely due to the snowbally meta. I do agree that if we re rolled the teams we would have a different bracket, but to me it seems to just be from the snowbally meta. Some of the maps are so one side- sided if that makes sense, that you can come back from 10-2 halfs once you switch to the favored side and be completely fine.

I could straight up be wrong, but I dont think these upsets come from teams having their macro down. But maybe these remaining shanghai matches will change my mind.

kyro1 [#2]

nah bru overall level has increased across the board so teams look less dominant but i will say i do think EG and PRX last year would be very good and would place high at all these events.

Maybe EG, but is PRX not just super mid rn? I guess you could say jingg doesn't have enough practice as last season. But a lot of the teams just seem so mid. But I think that the meta might be the problem from me. The economy is incredibly snowbally, so it might affect the way I view these teams. But i'll see, hopefully the remaining of shanghai and champs goes crazy.

Its not just u. Most teams have felt pretty underwhelming except a few. Hopefully we can start seeing some peak gameplay in champs

SEN OMEGALUL

Marty [#5]

Maybe EG, but is PRX not just super mid rn? I guess you could say jingg doesn't have enough practice as last season. But a lot of the teams just seem so mid. But I think that the meta might be the problem from me. The economy is incredibly snowbally, so it might affect the way I view these teams. But i'll see, hopefully the remaining of shanghai and champs goes crazy.

how you doubt what i said then proceed to say the teams look mid now implying we have seen better. and prx basically just dropped jingg in for monyet and didnt change any comps had they always knew jingg was gonna comeback they wouldnt have practiced all these other comps.

ye its not fun to watch it anymore

ayayaay [#7]

SEN OMEGALUL

https://www.vlr.gg/312779/gen-g-vs-sentinels-champions-tour-2024-masters-madrid-gf

kyro1 [#8]

how you doubt what i said then proceed to say the teams look mid now implying we have seen better. and prx basically just dropped jingg in for monyet and didnt change any comps had they always knew jingg was gonna comeback they wouldnt have practiced all these other comps.

Wait, what are you even trying to say?
Are you saying that because we have seen better before then those teams have to do good now based on my logic, otherwise no team should look mid because we can't compare?

valkin [#10]

https://www.vlr.gg/312779/gen-g-vs-sentinels-champions-tour-2024-masters-madrid-gf

https://www.vlr.gg/314640/sentinels-vs-evil-geniuses-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-1-w3

valkin [#10]

https://www.vlr.gg/312779/gen-g-vs-sentinels-champions-tour-2024-masters-madrid-gf

https://www.vlr.gg/314629/sentinels-vs-leviat-n-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-1-w2/?game=163369&tab=overview

1v5 ☠️

Marty [#11]

Wait, what are you even trying to say?
Are you saying that because we have seen better before then those teams have to do good now based on my logic, otherwise no team should look mid because we can't compare?

im saying you saying the level of play is low and then doubting that teams last year would be good makes zero sense because it implies we have seen a higher level then the current one.

Marty [#4]

I dont think its due to macro play tho, I think its purely due to the snowbally meta. I do agree that if we re rolled the teams we would have a different bracket, but to me it seems to just be from the snowbally meta. Some of the maps are so one side- sided if that makes sense, that you can come back from 10-2 halfs once you switch to the favored side and be completely fine.

I could straight up be wrong, but I dont think these upsets come from teams having their macro down. But maybe these remaining shanghai matches will change my mind.

Idk bruh I'm honestly repeating what other pros said