Unfair for Sen, G2 and F4Q

Sentinels, G2 and F4Q are forced to play 4 different games due to Bren being unable to make it. This is kind of unfair to them as they will be revealing more of their playbook prior to playoffs. They will be playing the same teams over and over again. If they decide to change maps on the 2nd time to avoid being read, they will be revealing their map pool whilst other teams who win both first 2 games will play less and be at an advantage. At most, teams that will qualify from other groups will play 3 games whilst Group D is forced to play 4. This is not Brens fault but it does go against competitive integrity considering none of these teams did anything wrong. At the end of the day Valorant is a tactical shooter and this puts the 2 teams going forward at a tactical disadvantage.

yeah but there was really nothin else to do, sure maybe BYE rounds but that would be more unfair in the group itself

Yea SEN only had to play 2 series but now they are forced to play 4.. unfair but they will win it all regardlessly

PrTsty [#2]

yeah but there was really nothin else to do, sure maybe BYE rounds but that would be more unfair in the group itself

To add on, this is how it would've looked like if there were bye rounds -

1. F4Q makes it out of groups by winning a single bo3
2. If 1. happens, SEN and G2 face each other twice with the second game being more important than the first

In hindsight, a double round robin really was the best option out of a bad situation.

can't they redraw 3 groups with 5 teams instead?
do single round robin for groups

still it wont be much of a disadvantage, i mean teams can always come up with new strats, plus teams are already studying each other from many days coming to berlin, so it wont make much difference

latex [#4]

To add on, this is how it would've looked like if there were bye rounds -

1. F4Q makes it out of groups by winning a single bo3
2. If 1. happens, SEN and G2 face each other twice with the second game being more important than the first

In hindsight, a double round robin really was the best option out of a bad situation.

correction:

1. F4Q only makes out of the groups by winning 1 match by beating the best team in the world, or the team that just beat the best team in the world.
2. if F4Q lose their first match then they have to fight for elim against a SEN or G2 who have EVERYTHING riding on that match. with all the fake beef g2 are creating they will claw back from the dead just to have another shot at SEN. and SEN are monsters at getting back from losing.

overall if F4Q makes out of this group via a BYE then that would be just as impressive as having a normal 2 win scenario for making playoffs.

Excalibur5 [#6]

still it wont be much of a disadvantage, i mean teams can always come up with new strats, plus teams are already studying each other from many days coming to berlin, so it wont make much difference

it does make a difference tho, there's a 3wk gap between NA Playoff and Berlin, in this 3wk, they change strats, protocols and whatnots.

For example: In the infamous V1-TL match, Sliggy prep 40 pages of anti-strat for the pre-Iceland Version1 playbook, V1 changed everything and stomped TL

Unfairr ? Where were you when Group A was announced

Ryxof [#9]

Unfairr ? Where were you when Group A was announced

Updated on BREN situation mate. You drop something

Strat wise this is sounds unfair since playing same teams twice is exposing so much strat.

But the previous format need 2 wins (2 match) in a row to get 1st place
And win 2 times (3 match) to get 2nd place from LB

With this format, roughly you could get 1st place with 3 win, and 2nd place with 2 wins
Noy that much different, unfair indeed but it's the best option for this situation

there isn't much you can do when the tournament is strictly designed for a 16 team format and then a team suddenly drops out. only so much you can change on short notice without destroying competitive integrity, and i think the double round robin was a decent solution to the issue

it's not like there are only negatives to this either, in a double round robin the influence of an upset is reduced and its much more likely that the two BEST teams in the group will be moving on. there's way less randomness to account for. also, each team is already aware ahead of time exactly who they're going to be playing. there isn't any uncertainty regarding matchups, and they don't need to prepare for an extra team

it's not a perfect situation. but it's also not like having to play one more series is RUINING their chances at berlin

they should have just give a free win to whoever is playing BREN, (so counting their game as forfeit)

but i suppose they want to keep the number of games up so ppl are happy

3 times no?

but there is less upset potential and this favours the most strongest and consistent teams

Ryxof [#9]

Unfairr ? Where were you when Group A was announced

That's about the difficulty of teams. This is completely different

wish they would give xset spot

I think every team needs to play 2 games then the first team in the group qualify to playoffs and the other 2 teams play one game to decide who should qualify to playoffs instead of playing 4 games in total for everyone

ranker11 [#5]

can't they redraw 3 groups with 5 teams instead?
do single round robin for groups

too late for that i think

LOL....first seed NA doesnt pay off antthing.

WhatADrag [#20]

LOL....first seed NA doesnt pay off antthing.

Easier group but yeah the bracket isnt working out for them. But its sen so who cares + u couldndt perdict this as riot

More games to watch Bunny play is a W for me regardless

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