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VLR does top 4- Winning chances

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Psion

i couldn't think of a good title, cleg gave me this one
https://forms.gle/iKWz9zJXQdVbK5ci8
edit: results that add up to more than 100 are discluded

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hi psichan

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Psion
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anyth1ng [#2]

hi psichan

HIIII ANYTH1NG

#4
Psion
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anyth1ng [#2]

hi psichan

HOW IS U

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Kirako
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th 5
100 frauds 20
g2 35
geng 40

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anyth1ng
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Psion [#4]

HOW IS U

im great hbu

#7
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who cleg

#8
anyth1ng
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Tryeue2 [#7]

who cleg

he meant cl0g

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can't find 12.5%

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anyth1ng [#6]

im great hbu

im ok, didn't sleep the best but the 100T game was hype

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anyth1ng [#8]

he meant cl0g

ahh thxx

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bronzil_enjoyer [#9]

can't find 12.5%

womp womp

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Psion my dear

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geospliced [#13]

Psion my dear

hru geo :D

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anyth1ng [#8]

he meant cl0g

he cl0gs the toilet with something different

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bronzil_enjoyer
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 results that add up to more than 100 are discluded

assgamer's result won't count 😞

#17
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Psion [#14]

hru geo :D

Finished my English finals today, feeling good

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Can’t put 0% for TH?

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bronzil_enjoyer [#16]
 results that add up to more than 100 are discluded

assgamer's result won't count 😞

do not disrespect an old stinky cat flair, you can do that when he abandons OSC and goes back to SEN

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beaver_man [#18]

Can’t put 0% for TH?

i think its disingenuous to say a team has a 0% chance

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geospliced [#17]

Finished my English finals today, feeling good

0ngl0sh

#22
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Tryeue2 [#21]

0ngl0sh

0ndi0n

#23
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bronzil_enjoyer [#22]

0ndi0n

br0nz0l

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geospliced [#17]

Finished my English finals today, feeling good

if u didn't get a perfect score ima call mao zedong, chiang kai shek, Qin Shi Huang, and Kubli Khan on your ass

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Tryeue2 [#23]

br0nz0l

im not brazillian but ok 👍

#26
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Not allowing 0% ruins the form

25% G2, 75% 100T

Making me give Heretics any shot is ridiculous

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babysasuke [#26]

Not allowing 0% ruins the form

25% G2, 75% 100T

Making me give Heretics any shot is ridiculous

brother....

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Psion [#27]

brother....

Don't even have their full roster

yet to beat a team that isn't from EMEA or China (2 weakest regions)

Can't close out 10-2

They have a 0% chance to win.

#29
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psichan, do i add the winning percantage here?

#30
PP12123213123
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APAC users are sleep right now, GenG would finish last lmao

#31
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babysasuke [#28]

Don't even have their full roster

yet to beat a team that isn't from EMEA or China (2 weakest regions)

Can't close out 10-2

They have a 0% chance to win.

beating FPX(CN) is probably a better win than 100T have ngl
FPX(CN) probably beat PRX with their form
people said FPX (EMEA) had no chance when suygetsu arrived and FPX(EMEA) was in lowers round 1
look what happened

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Psion [#31]

beating FPX(CN) is probably a better win than 100T have ngl
FPX(CN) probably beat PRX with their form
people said FPX (EMEA) had no chance when suygetsu arrived and FPX(EMEA) was in lowers round 1
look what happened

I'm literally not gonna dignify that with a reponse

entirely speculating and waffling

I would suggest anyone into betting put their parents' house on Heretics going out in 4th place.

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babysasuke [#32]

I'm literally not gonna dignify that with a reponse

entirely speculating and waffling

I would suggest anyone into betting put their parents' house on Heretics going out in 4th place.

trying to argue there isn't a chance in scenarios like this(there's always a chance) is a losing battle, good on you for realizing that

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Psion [#33]

trying to argue there isn't a chance in scenarios like this(there's always a chance) is a losing battle, good on you for realizing that

There is 0 chance.

There's a 5% chance TH wins against 100T

0% they beat Gen.G at all

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babysasuke [#34]

There is 0 chance.

There's a 5% chance TH wins against 100T

0% they beat Gen.G at all

its a 40-60 for th winning against 100t and they defo can upset g0ng idk what you on about minisasuke

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how is it looking

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babysasuke [#34]

There is 0 chance.

There's a 5% chance TH wins against 100T

0% they beat Gen.G at all

TH's chances of beating 100T are AT LEAST 25%
for every 1 person you can get to agree with you i can get 10 to agree with me on this, quit it

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Tryeue2 [#35]

its a 40-60 for th winning against 100t and they defo can upset g0ng idk what you on about minisasuke

I guess we're watching different games then man, I don't know what to tell you

Don't get your hopes up

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Psion [#37]

TH's chances of beating 100T are AT LEAST 25%
for every 1 person you can get to agree with you i can get 10 to agree with me on this, quit it

You could get 100 people to agree with you and I could be here on my own, and next weekend the results will be the same.

TH goes home in 4th and starts the work for a Champs run, where they will look better than they did here.

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babysasuke [#39]

You could get 100 people to agree with you and I could be here on my own, and next weekend the results will be the same.

TH goes home in 4th and starts the work for a Champs run, where they will look better than they did here.

are you saying the results will prove you right?
neither of us are saying TH will win or should win

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Psion [#40]

are you saying the results will prove you right?
neither of us are saying TH will win or should win

I'm saying any percentage you give them that they could possibly win means nothing and it is a waste.

They are, without a doubt, 100% going to lose to 100 Thieves

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Anoymouse [#36]

how is it looking

18-36-30-16

#43
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babysasuke [#41]

I'm saying any percentage you give them that they could possibly win means nothing and it is a waste.

They are, without a doubt, 100% going to lose to 100 Thieves

yk the last time i heard this this tournament? PRX vs G2 and look what happened

#44
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why cant i pick 0 percent for hereshits

#45
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Psion [#43]

yk the last time i heard this this tournament? PRX vs G2 and look what happened

There's the difference though

I would never give an NA team 0% chance

They don't constantly overpromise and underdeliver

#46
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Kiko [#44]

why cant i pick 0 percent for hereshits

#20

#47
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babysasuke [#45]

There's the difference though

I would never give an NA team 0% chance

They don't constantly overpromise and underdeliver

😭

#48
LouBag
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Imagine honestly thinking any team has 0% chance.

😂

#49
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LouBag [#48]

Imagine honestly thinking any team has 0% chance.

😂

fr

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I will show my calculations
Assume that
Chance to win 100T : 0.6 aginst TH, 0.7 aginst G2, 0.4 aginst GenG
Chance to win TH: 0.4 aginst 100T, 0.5 aginst G2, 0.4 aginst GenG
Chance to win G2: 0.3 aginst 100T, 0.5 aginst TH, 0.4 aginst GenG
Chance to win GenG : 0.6 against everyone

100T and TH need to win 3 games to win this master
100T chance : 0.6(TH) x 0.7(G2) x 0.4(GenG) = 0.17
TH chance : 0.4(100T) x 0.5(G2) x 0.4(GenG) = 0.08
G2 chance : [0.6(lose upper blanket final against GENG) x [0.6(100T win against TH) x 0.3(100T) x 0.4(GenG) + 0.4( TH win against 100T) x 0.5(TH) x 0.4(GenG)]] + [0.4(win upper blanket final against GENG) x [ 0.6x0.4(100T qualify for Final) x 0.3(100T) + 0.4x0.4(TH qualify for final) x 0.5(TH) + (1-0.24-0.16)(GenG qualify for final) x 0.4(GENG)]] = 0.25
GenG chance : 1 - 0.17 - 0.08 - 0.25 = 0.50

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PP12123213123 [#50]

I will show my calculations
Assume that
Chance to win 100T : 0.6 aginst TH, 0.7 aginst G2, 0.4 aginst GenG
Chance to win TH: 0.4 aginst 100T, 0.5 aginst G2, 0.4 aginst GenG
Chance to win G2: 0.3 aginst 100T, 0.5 aginst TH, 0.4 aginst GenG
Chance to win GenG : 0.6 against everyone

100T and TH need to win 3 games to win this master
100T chance : 0.6(TH) x 0.7(G2) x 0.4(GenG) = 0.17
TH chance : 0.4(100T) x 0.5(G2) x 0.4(GenG) = 0.08
G2 chance : [0.6(lose upper blanket final against GENG) x [0.6(100T win against TH) x 0.3(100T) x 0.4(GenG) + 0.4( TH win against 100T) x 0.5(TH) x 0.4(GenG)]] + [0.4(win upper blanket final against GENG) x [ 0.6x0.4(100T qualify for Final) x 0.3(100T) + 0.4x0.4(TH qualify for final) x 0.5(TH) + (1-0.24-0.16)(GenG qualify for final) x 0.4(GENG)]] = 0.25
GenG chance : 1 - 0.17 - 0.08 - 0.25 = 0.50

what the sigma?

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