This stuff is pretty common in group draws be it esports or sports. There's always a stacked group and a slacked group. Look at the recent UCL draw for example, Group A, B has 3/4 elite teams in them while group G has 4/4 mediocres. And you have to face strong teams sooner or later, if you can't be top 2 in your group no matter how strong it is you don't have much shot at winning the title anyway. And with the game being so new and unpredictable you can't perfectly judge or predict which team/region is gonna come out stronger.
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The problem is that the way riot did these groups, seedings became basically useless.
Your example of ucl doesn't make sense cuz there is not seeding for that. It's just random.
If riot were to do random gropups then whats the point of seeding matches?
The seedings games are reason why people are angry at rito :/
Heiro [#2]The problem is that the way riot did these groups, seedings became basically useless.
Your example of ucl doesn't make sense cuz there is not seeding for that. It's just random.
If riot were to do random gropups then whats the point of seeding matches?
The seedings games are reason why people are angry at rito :/
Ucl has seeding? What are you on about.
So tje problem is not the group, the problem is mich rather that 4 emea teams arent split into 4 groups, id rather have sentinels in group a than having to watch 2 emea teams against each other. Also the argument that u have to be top 2 to win the tournament anyways is lacking. If it was champions, fair, ur right. But keep in mind masters is still a qualifier, acend has to make it to top 8 to qualify for example.
Heiro [#2]The problem is that the way riot did these groups, seedings became basically useless.
Your example of ucl doesn't make sense cuz there is not seeding for that. It's just random.
If riot were to do random gropups then whats the point of seeding matches?
The seedings games are reason why people are angry at rito :/
Ucl draws aren't random...there are pools divided based on league positions.
Revan [#3]How is it whining when it's unfair to Vision strikers who won the 1st seed of their region and yet have to play against the 2nd and 3rd seed of EMEA. And it's unfair to Sentinels and 100t who won 1st and 2nd seed yet the 3rd seed is given the easiest group. Thats why it's bad
If you are scared of the KR #1 seed getting knocked out by EMEA #3 seed then maybe they aren't a strong region anyway which means the draw is fair....
sm0ke3 [#5]he said that there's no seeding for UCL
There are... All League winners are separated in Pool A(ie #1 seeds) so they don't get into same groups.. Similarly other pools are separated through league standings too. With the playoff winners being in the last pool.
zephyr_nah [#8]If you are scared of the KR #1 seed getting knocked out by EMEA #3 seed then maybe they aren't a strong region anyway which means the draw is fair....
Sheesh facts
zephyr_nah [#8]If you are scared of the KR #1 seed getting knocked out by EMEA #3 seed then maybe they aren't a strong region anyway which means the draw is fair....
It's not being scared for them dumbass, its called unfair. They are the first seed of their region so they should have an easier group. They might as well have lost and face the 4th seed of EMEA alongside Sentinels but they got the 2nd and 3rd seed of EMEA. So what was the point of then winning 1st seed. And it's not just fans, it's pros and analysts that are complaining as well so don't act like a smartass
Revan [#11]It's not being scared for them dumbass, its called unfair. They are the first seed of their region so they should have an easier group. They might as well have lost and face the 4th seed of EMEA alongside Sentinels but they got the 2nd and 3rd seed of EMEA. So what was the point of then winning 1st seed. And it's not just fans, it's pros and analysts that are complaining as well so don't act like a smartass
Being the first seed they technically did get 2nd/3rd seeds of other regions(Paper Rex is practically 4th seed based on regional strength) ....dont act like all 1st seeds got into their group.
PrTsty [#4]Ucl has seeding? What are you on about.
u guys should stop downvoting if u know nothing about what im talkin, go educate yourselfs guys, u just have to google 1 sentence and you get smarter
PrTsty [#6]So tje problem is not the group, the problem is mich rather that 4 emea teams arent split into 4 groups, id rather have sentinels in group a than having to watch 2 emea teams against each other. Also the argument that u have to be top 2 to win the tournament anyways is lacking. If it was champions, fair, ur right. But keep in mind masters is still a qualifier, acend has to make it to top 8 to qualify for example.
switch kru and smb, I think it's better since there's now 1 EU team in each group, plus it tests out LATAM and JP. idk just my thoughts
drewxa [#14]switch kru and smb, I think it's better since there's now 1 EU team in each group, plus it tests out LATAM and JP. idk just my thoughts
either KRU/SMB or Acend/Zeta swap will have placed 4 emea teams in 4 different groups
zephyr_nah [#15]either KRU/SMB or Acend/Zeta swap will have placed 4 emea teams in 4 different groups
agreed VS got fucked over because of this plus it's such an easy fix. idk wtf riot is smoking but I need some of it
zephyr_nah [#9]There are... All League winners are separated in Pool A(ie #1 seeds) so they don't get into same groups.. Similarly other pools are separated through league standings too. With the playoff winners being in the last pool.
Not all playoff winners are on last pool. 1 example is Benfica on 3rd pool. And also UCL and UEL winners get 1st pool.
AdS [#17]Not all playoff winners are on last pool. 1 example is Benfica on 3rd pool. And also UCL and UEL winners get 1st pool.
basically i meant seeding does exist in UCL
PrTsty [#13]u guys should stop downvoting if u know nothing about what im talkin, go educate yourselfs guys, u just have to google 1 sentence and you get smarter
its common for people to think youre quoting the guy by saying "ucl has seeding?", and when you say what are you on about they can think youre either for ucl having seeding or against it
pokedyo [#19]its common for people to think youre quoting the guy by saying "ucl has seeding?", and when you say what are you on about they can think youre either for ucl having seeding or against it
I mean the what are you on about suggest that i disagree with him, but yeaj my first phrase is 2sided
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