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#1
envyz

nerfing jett and raze again like how can you possibly nerf these two any more without making them unplayable instead of nerfing agents lets buff the weak ones or completely re work them

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let rito cook.

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envyz
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Anoymouse [#2]

let rito cook.

no fuck rito i infiltrate rito then give chamber back 2 tps

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Kryogenix
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when did they say this

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_amBrian
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wat happen

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envyz
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Kryogenix [#4]

when did they say this

its most likely going to happen they said they were going to balance duelists, and its just braindead these are the only duelists you can actually balance and make them actually unplayable

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envyz [#6]

its most likely going to happen they said they were going to balance duelists, and its just braindead these are the only duelists you can actually balance and make them actually unplayable

oh so this is a baseless argument

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envyz [#6]

its most likely going to happen they said they were going to balance duelists, and its just braindead these are the only duelists you can actually balance and make them actually unplayable

Slightly adjust jett
nerf raze
buff neon, pheonix, yoru,
rework reyna and iso a little

BOOM fix the duelist meta and make it versatile

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_amBrian [#5]

wat happen

they're going to balance a ton of duelist and making jett and raze i think weaker.

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envyz
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Kryogenix [#8]

Slightly adjust jett
nerf raze
buff neon, pheonix, yoru,
rework reyna and iso a little

BOOM fix the duelist meta and make it versatile

the thing is they're nerfing all of the actual skilled duelists raze requires more skill than something like a gekko due to her satches a price increase or orb increase i'd be fine with but nerfing would be crazy to me imo.

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envyz
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ZettGundam [#7]

oh so this is a baseless argument

its not a argument these are most likely the changes, since they've been high pick-rate agents, and riot openly states they want all agents to have similar pickrates.

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envyz [#10]

the thing is they're nerfing all of the actual skilled duelists raze requires more skill than something like a gekko due to her satches a price increase or orb increase i'd be fine with but nerfing would be crazy to me imo.

Make raze satchel only knock her back, make raze ult 9 points, and thats it, that is the MOST she can be reasonably nerfed, price increase to satchels would be so bad because if it becomes 250 for a single satchel that would make raze unnecessarily difficult to play fundamentally when it would be hard to afford what lets her entry at all

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Kryogenix [#12]

Make raze satchel only knock her back, make raze ult 9 points, and thats it, that is the MOST she can be reasonably nerfed, price increase to satchels would be so bad because if it becomes 250 for a single satchel that would make raze unnecessarily difficult to play fundamentally when it would be hard to afford what lets her entry at all

they literally cannot "balance" these two agents without making them shit, riot has to just buff every other duelist or rework.

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plane7575
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ok

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goofyahh1447
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envyz [#3]

no fuck rito i infiltrate rito then give chamber back 2 tps

+2 trips

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condsicc
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I think they’ll probably make other duelists better

#17
ALoKi007
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Source??!

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envyz
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ALoKi007 [#17]

Source??!

most likely whats going to happen they states previously they want to change high pickrate agents so both of them will probably be getting nerfed while they buff spme of the weaker duelists

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bro i do not want power creep, nerfing raze (and jett to an extent) is completely fine

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Kryogenix [#8]

Slightly adjust jett
nerf raze
buff neon, pheonix, yoru,
rework reyna and iso a little

BOOM fix the duelist meta and make it versatile

nah dont rework iso a little fkin change him to a different role and change all of his abilities because hes ass

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KITTT
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how long can you enjoy a meta?

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envyz
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Psion [#19]

bro i do not want power creep, nerfing raze (and jett to an extent) is completely fine

you cannot physically nerf these agents without making them unrecognizable only thing you could possibly do is increase how much their abilities cost and more ultimate orbs.

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envyz [#22]

you cannot physically nerf these agents without making them unrecognizable only thing you could possibly do is increase how much their abilities cost and more ultimate orbs.

thats all jett needs is like her smokes to cost 50 more so u can't go
double smoke + light shields
frenzy + updraft + smoke
on pistol plus the natural costing more
and for raze, you can 100% change how her satchels affect utility, teammates, enemies, etc.

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goofyahh1447 [#15]

+2 trips

yay suddenly back from retirement

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envyz [#10]

the thing is they're nerfing all of the actual skilled duelists raze requires more skill than something like a gekko due to her satches a price increase or orb increase i'd be fine with but nerfing would be crazy to me imo.

Bro, at least choose like cypher or something, Gekko is probably one of the highest skill-floor agents there is. When it comes to the game, basically every agent is easy to play hard to master, Neon is just as difficult as Raze, if not more so for example.

#26
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Making other duelists viable 👎
Ruining the only two good duelists 👍

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envyz
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SAMPV6 [#26]

Making other duelists viable 👎
Ruining the only two good duelists 👍

true

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envyz [#18]

most likely whats going to happen they states previously they want to change high pickrate agents so both of them will probably be getting nerfed while they buff spme of the weaker duelists

That's sad to hear dude. I never get good duelists in the team and this nerf will make my gold chances to 1% s😔

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