Ideal igl role

More and more since 2023 we are seeing igls shift towards initiator roles, going off of the traditional smokes and sentinels.

Redgar went from by far worst gx player as omen map 1 to by far best gx player as kayo map 2.
Ange1 has been playing great valorant this year on initiator roles, he did this at champs too and played better than he does on smokes.

Initiator is the most important role to have good util and coordination. Sentinel is the least important. I believe that sentinel is the worst role for an igl as it’s a role that requires a good amount of aim and is the easiest util to coordinate. An igl being on sentinel disconnects him from the team, being a lurker is not good for the IGL as they don’t see what the other 4 do. I think FNS mentioned this before despite him being a sentinel IGL.

Then you have controller/initiator/duelist.
Controller is decent but again, most of the utility is simple to coordinate, it’s mostly timings. Viper wall up, viper wall down, it’s very simple.

I think duelist igl could actually be really good, it’s just that most good igls have worse aim. Also igling takes away from aim performance again which is why the slightly more aimer roles (sentinel and duelist) are kinda bad for igl. Quiet players with good aim are best for these roles. Aspas for example, he’s very quiet which lets him focus on aim.

Final duelist igl point: historical attempts at igl duelist failed because it’s rare for a player to fit this archetype. Scream duelist igl failed not because it’s a duelist igl, but because scream is a bad igl and not a great duelist.

Initiator is the least aimer role, it’s the most important and hardest to coordinate with teammates, it’s not just timing like smokes, not just accuracy like duelist, but everything all at once. Having your igl be able to play the initiator role lets your team be much more cohesive and have clearer comms.

Allat, who cares, yapfest, retarded post, brain dead user, average vlr person.

All in all I think initiator is the best role for igls and it should be seen more, especially less sentinel igls. We have also seen Saadhak leaving the sentinel and playing more initiator, on top of ange1 and others

maybe im remembering wrong but werent a lot of Americas igls moving away from sentinel/controller roles last year while emea were still with the senti/controller? but i agree i think this change with igl roles is very very good considering ini is the best role for coordination and info

espeon [#2]

maybe im remembering wrong but werent a lot of Americas igls moving away from sentinel/controller roles last year while emea were still with the senti/controller? but i agree i think this change with igl roles is very very good considering ini is the best role for coordination and info

Yes Americas was doing it first and I think they were right to do so. Most tactically developed region strikes again

Love you bro

Also side note: I hate when my initiators in ranked have terrible comms or bad util usage. Like if ur brain dead pls just pick sentinel or duelist so you’re not making it harder to win

kanyefan4238173 [#3]

Yes Americas was doing it first and I think they were right to do so. Most tactically developed region strikes again

Love you bro

REAL
but i think this change with emea igls is good, we just need b0aster and d0rke gone and replace them with fns and nats and they will win everything until fns becomes too weak to hold a mouse

love you too bro

espeon [#5]

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but i think this change with emea igls is good, we just need b0aster and d0rke gone and replace them with fns and nats and they will win everything until fns becomes too weak to hold a mouse

love you too bro

he said that bc ur name espeon and he into pokemon

I think the best igls are the ones that frag the most. While FNS is probably the best igl and smartest player in the game, he can only really preform when he has a really good team behind him, in his own words "We need guys if we want to win". Take the igls of old, redgar, enzo, konan, etc. they all cant frag, and their teams look like shit as a result. Look at the best teams igls of the last year, all of them frag heavy, Johnqt, Boostio, Saadhak, Boo, Munchkin, Stax, ange1 etc. Boaster is the only exption and he needs 4 god players to even win, and weve seen what happens when they dont preform at their peek. In the future I think we will see more teams becoming like PRX getting rid of mid igls for hard fraggers, and having the entire team com together.

Hades_Loves_Rb [#7]

I think the best igls are the ones that frag the most. While FNS is probably the best igl and smartest player in the game, he can only really preform when he has a really good team behind him, in his own words "We need guys if we want to win". Take the igls of old, redgar, enzo, konan, etc. they all cant frag, and their teams look like shit as a result. Look at the best teams igls of the last year, all of them frag heavy, Johnqt, Boostio, Saadhak, Boo, Munchkin, Stax, ange1 etc. Boaster is the only exption and he needs 4 god players to even win, and weve seen what happens when they dont preform at their peek. In the future I think we will see more teams becoming like PRX getting rid of mid igls for hard fraggers, and having the entire team com together.

its really good for the mental if your igl can frag, doesnt need to have 1.5kd but at least trades and around 1kd, why astralis is so good

Y0y

issue w duelist igl is you have to midround based on information off minimap and your analysis of what your tms are telling you while also being the entry n shit
you open yourself up to bad timings, weaker entries, and much weaker midrounding because you're the primary space taker but also you need one eye on map at all times