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#59
champ2k21
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Ill give you another example to explain to you what i really meant by "underperforming"

You remember fnatic in 2022 yeah? like after they brought in alfajer and they started dominating emea??Then what happened?They choked champions and bombed out at 5/6th place while their second seed, the team that they beat 2-1 and again 3-0 in the GF, placed higher than them

Thats what i would call underperformance...

#60
Psion
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yes thats an underperformance,
they lost to the #12, #6, and #3 teams at that event and ended 6th
meanwhile LOUD lost to #1, #2, and #3 and got 4th
both teams came in themselves expecting to make top 4 minimum, and thats what LOUD did

#62
champ2k21
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Im saying this for like the 5th time already, 4th in madrid is not equivalent to 4th in previous events, purely because of the level of competition....And my original statement came from watching the games, cause LOUD really seemed bad especially the paper rex game.....

#65
Psion
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4th in madrid is literally better than 4th at Lock\in
you had to win 3 games and play 4 to get 4th at Lock\in
you had to win between 5 and 7 to get 4th at madrid and play between 9 and 12
their game vs PRX was literally them at their worst. they had a bad performance in that game, that doesn't mean they underperformed across the whole of madrid and kickoff

#73
champ2k21
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your comparing masters madrid(major) to a fucking kickoff tournament with single elim format are you crazy?
Im referring to the actual major events that make sense

#74
Psion
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they are both kickoff tournaments... the only events you should call majors are champs

#76
champ2k21
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No, masters are considered major tournaments by a majority of the fanbase...

And btw getting 4th in lock in is tougher than 4th in madrid:

Its a single elimination tournament all the way through, so theres no room for error here
You also have to get lucky with the draws and just hope you get some trash teams in your draws
In madrid, LOUD faced EDG and FPX while in LOCK in LOUD had to scrap by beating NRG(If you've watched the game, it was an IGLing master class from both sides) and a really good looking DRX to reach GF

#81
Psion
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we have to use riot's logic, just like Valve sponsors majors so either
Lock\in and Madrid are both the equivalent of a major
or neither are and only champs is
look at the path Navi and DRX took to get 4th lmao
whatever 3 teams you pick from LOUD's roadmap, LOUD's 3 teams top to bottom are better relative to Eras
whatever team u pick > Lev & talon
FPX (2nd worst) > C9 and TS
EG (worst) > BBL & Kru

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