Can we all agree that SEN, 100t, Envy, and XSET are just on a different tier than all of NA? Of course, they'll lose a scattered game here and there but they just seem to be the absolute clear top four teams NA with a drop after that.
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Fire737 [#4]Sen is SS tier right now because of their consistency
100t ,envy and xset are S tier
Enyv is up there in a month trust me, possibly on same level as sen or slightly below. Same goes for 100T and XSET they are even or 100T slightly above
DaviCollossal12 [#3]top 4 NA > top 4 EMEA / top 10 NA < TOP 10 EMEA
Top 4 NA is better than Acend Gambit G2 SMB? Ahahah what are you talking about
DaviCollossal12 [#3]top 4 NA > top 4 EMEA / top 10 NA < TOP 10 EMEA
Acend and Sen are equal
Envy are better than G2
Gambit are better than 100T
SMB are better than XSET
Stratum7 [#7]Top 4 NA is better than Acend Gambit G2 SMB? Ahahah what are you talking about
we'll see in berlin man, i hope cned dont choke and acend win
PrTsty [#6]Enyv is up there in a month trust me, possibly on same level as sen or slightly below. Same goes for 100T and XSET they are even or 100T slightly above
SEN not dropping a map in Berlin bro, they are on a different stratosphere. Envy can be #2 for awhile though
dyoun14 [#5]SEN>>>>>>>NV, 100T, XSET>>>>Everyone else
SEN almost lost to NV when they only had 5 days of prac with yayster theyre not that much better
DaviCollossal12 [#3]top 4 NA > top 4 EMEA / top 10 NA < TOP 10 EMEA
Sen > top 2 EMEA (Acend and G2) > 2-4 top NA > 3-4 top EMEA
Netero [#12]SEN not dropping a map in Berlin bro, they are on a different stratosphere. Envy can be #2 for awhile though
Envy could probably be able to take series off of sentinels but sen will be consistently better
shax4PF [#13]SEN almost lost to NV when they only had 5 days of prac with yayster theyre not that much better
and SEN won masters 1 with 0 practice with brand new Tenz.
Stratum7 [#7]Top 4 NA is better than Acend Gambit G2 SMB? Ahahah what are you talking about
we're talking about reality
shax4PF [#13]SEN almost lost to NV when they only had 5 days of prac with yayster theyre not that much better
Sen has won almost all of the most recent tournaments, when’s the last time NV made a grand finals lol, also how tf does them losing 2-0 but both maps were close make them not much worse than the best team in the world, by that logic Soniqs is better than NV because they took a map off SEN
Torogoro [#14]Sen > top 2 EMEA (Acend and G2) > 2-4 top NA > 3-4 top EMEA
Gambit and SMB are better than 100T and XSET
Netero [#16]and SEN won masters 1 with 0 practice with brand new Tenz.
yea i wonder it mustve been hard transitioning the best player in the world to the best team at the time in NA lol
I think it goes
Sen
Envy/100T
Rest
The only teams xset beat in this tourney were Rise and LG. They had a good tournament run in the last qualifier (Similar to V1 and Faze). They beat Sen and 100t and then they turned around and lost to Sen 1-3 and 0-2 to 100T.
They are top of the heap behind the 3 that qualified, but they are not quite on the same level.
shax4PF [#21]yea i wonder it mustve been hard transitioning the best player in the world to the best team at the time in NA lol
well Yay is top 3 duelist, hell prob tied for 2nd with Asuna.
shax4PF [#21]yea i wonder it mustve been hard transitioning the best player in the world to the best team at the time in NA lol
So you’re saying Sentinels and Tenz were a lot better than NV and yay but also that NV is not much worse than the best team ITW by far?
thanatos11 [#19]Gambit and SMB are better than 100T and XSET
mmm, Gambit if dont choke maybe, SMB probably yes. Those of Gambit are very good, but in professional matches they choke
dyoun14 [#18]Sen has won almost all of the most recent tournaments, when’s the last time NV made a grand finals lol, also how tf does them losing 2-0 but both maps were close make them not much worse than the best team in the world, by that logic Soniqs is better than NV because they took a map off SEN
ur acting like sentinels go all out in qualifiers of 128 stop nitpicking only reason they lose to teams like BBG or maps off some series cuz they dont go 100% during quals of 128 they went 100% against NV and it showed that NV is good enough to compete with them theyre not miles ahead as of now
LouBag [#22]I think it goes
Sen
Envy/100TRest
The only teams xset beat in this tourney were Rise and LG. They had a good tournament run in the last qualifier (Similar to V1 and Faze). They beat Sen and 100t and then they turned around and lost to Sen 1-3 and 0-2 to 100T.
They are top of the heap behind the 3 that qualified, but they are not quite on the same level.
Envy fans are the most logical.
Xset is probably #4 because they came 2nd in masters 2 challenger qualifiers and kinda have been consistent
LouBag [#22]I think it goes
Sen
Envy/100TRest
The only teams xset beat in this tourney were Rise and LG. They had a good tournament run in the last qualifier (Similar to V1 and Faze). They beat Sen and 100t and then they turned around and lost to Sen 1-3 and 0-2 to 100T.
They are top of the heap behind the 3 that qualified, but they are not quite on the same level.
I mean XSET lost 13 11 three times. They lost a 9 3 lead, a 3 man smoke spray down to not let them go overtime and yays 4k operator saved thema crucial round. Honestly both series couldve gone both ways. I think XSET is tied with 100T on third
Nycera [#9]nah theres a big drop off from envy to xset,xset wouldnt get a round at berlin
I definitely think xset could take out anyone in BR KR SEA JP honestly, it would just be bracket dependent
thanatos11 [#10]Acend and Sen are equal
Envy are better than G2
Gambit are better than 100T
SMB are better than XSET
There’s no way to know, rn sen are the best cause they proved it in iceland
PrTsty [#28]I mean XSET lost 13 11 three times. They lost a 9 3 lead, a 3 man smoke spray down to not let them go overtime and yays 4k operator saved thema crucial round. Honestly both series couldve gone both ways. I think XSET is tied with 100T on third
Very agreeable
PrTsty [#28]I mean XSET lost 13 11 three times. They lost a 9 3 lead, a 3 man smoke spray down to not let them go overtime and yays 4k operator saved thema crucial round. Honestly both series couldve gone both ways. I think XSET is tied with 100T on third
I think 100t is better than xset ,look at ascent it was 12-6 could have been over by that point but 100t always kinda feels shaky in the end of their second map look at faze match it was a 11-3 and it became 13-9
farewellVAL [#29]I definitely think xset could take out anyone in BR KR SEA JP honestly, it would just be bracket dependent
its hyperbole but xset arent on the level of envy 100t sen
Stratum7 [#7]Top 4 NA is better than Acend Gambit G2 SMB? Ahahah what are you talking about
He's saying that NA is better than EMEA which is true. NA has fsjared you don't have shit on us
thanatos11 [#10]Acend and Sen are equal
Envy are better than G2
Gambit are better than 100T
SMB are better than XSET
SEN better on Haven, Breeze, Bind, and Icebox.
Netero [#40]SEN better on Haven, Breeze, Bind, and Icebox.
Bind that they lost to generation gaming?
Stratum7 [#7]Top 4 NA is better than Acend Gambit G2 SMB? Ahahah what are you talking about
Agree I do think Top 4 NA > Top 4 EU tho, not by much, not EMEA tho, the TR and CIS people have been popping
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