I think Kendrick > Cole
but he might have a point
yall are mad glazing to pimp a butterfly
its not that good tbh
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Is J Cole right?
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Kuuga [#5]Yo first shit was classic
Your last shit was tragic
:fire:
your second shit put ngas to sleep but they gassed it
Gummybears [#4]damn and gkmc are both significantly better albums production wise
ok but the rapping is better on tpab id argue so is the social commentary which are things the album is lauded for. The poem goes crazy as well.
Kuuga [#5]Yo first shit was classic
Your last shit was tragic
:fire:
''shit could get tragic, new patek'' ass line 🔥
Tryeue1 [#11]cned clears your shitty optic envy core mate
y0y
m0rved
trashies and shitcor
fins
yet shitrx could never beat them 😂
J. Cole is the one of the best rappers alive now. His works are a classic and not for the newer attention span deprived generation who don't like anything other than Carti Yeat Uzi.
Simply put they overvalue beats over lyrics and will call any bar trash or corny if it doesn't mention sex weed smoke racism killing etc, you get it.
Cole being downplayed by everyone meanwhile "Seeyahhh BIHHH Cahhh Littt WHAEEE" music is being appreciated, that's why I never listen to anyone's opinion on music nowadays.
Also a friend of mine who's in Chicago and is black says the hood prefers Cole over K. Dot, don't listen to Twitter or Reddit about music opinion because its mostly filled with white mentally retarted teens.
Tryeue1 [#19]y0y chamber merhcant
and will still have more trophies then mak0 st0x at the end of his career 😂
canyon [#18]J. Cole is the one of the best rappers alive now. His works are a classic and not for the newer attention span deprived generation who don't like anything other than Carti Yeat Uzi.
Simply put they overvalue beats over lyrics and will call any bar trash or corny if it doesn't mention sex weed smoke racism killing etc, you get it.Cole being downplayed by everyone meanwhile "Seeyahhh BIHHH Cahhh Littt WHAEEE" music is being appreciated, that's why I never listen to anyone's opinion on music nowadays.
Also a friend of mine who's in Chicago and is black says the hood prefers Cole over K. Dot, don't listen to Twitter or Reddit about music opinion because its mostly filled with white mentally retarted teens.
Also a friend of mine who's in Chicago and is black says the hood prefers Cole over K. Dot
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KiraYoshikage [#23]2093 is the greatest piece of music ever made
yeat couldve made tpab & gkmc but kendrick couldnt made 2093🔥
Zephyros [#27]bro jcole only has one album compared to anything kdot has put out
and the "your second shit put ngas to sleep but they gassed it" line is flat out wrong bro gkmc is literally one of the greatest hip hop albums of all time
they talking bout tpab
beaver_man [#22]Also a friend of mine who's in Chicago and is black says the hood prefers Cole over K. Dot
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came out as gayish
canyon [#18]J. Cole is the one of the best rappers alive now. His works are a classic and not for the newer attention span deprived generation who don't like anything other than Carti Yeat Uzi.
Simply put they overvalue beats over lyrics and will call any bar trash or corny if it doesn't mention sex weed smoke racism killing etc, you get it.Cole being downplayed by everyone meanwhile "Seeyahhh BIHHH Cahhh Littt WHAEEE" music is being appreciated, that's why I never listen to anyone's opinion on music nowadays.
Also a friend of mine who's in Chicago and is black says the hood prefers Cole over K. Dot, don't listen to Twitter or Reddit about music opinion because its mostly filled with white mentally retarted teens.
I live in chicago and we dont rly fuck with k dot or cole honestly
Zephyros [#31]kdot>>>jcole>>>>>>>>>>>drake
Lyricism: kdot>cole>kanye>>>drake
Rapping/flow: cole>kdot>kanye>>>drake
Quality of albums: kdot>kanye>>cole>>drake
Production: kanye>>kdot=cole>drake
Hit-making: drake>>cole>kanye>kdot
MadnessMedia [#38]Lyricism: kdot>cole>kanye>>>drake
Rapping/flow: cole>kdot>kanye>>>drake
Quality of albums: kdot>kanye>>cole>>drake
Production: kanye>>kdot=cole>drake
Hit-making: drake>>cole>kanye>kdot
bro missed on every single one
Tryeue1 [#8]ok but the rapping is better on tpab id argue so is the social commentary which are things the album is lauded for. The poem goes crazy as well.
The production on tpab alone also clears any Cole album production lol
jawn [#39]bro missed on every single one
Lyricism: kdot>>>cole>drake>=kanye
Rapping/flow: kdot>cole>kanye>drake
Quality of albums: kdot>kanye>>>drake>>cole
Production: kanye>kdot>>>cole>drake
Hit-making: drake>kanye>kdot>>>>>cole
bladee666 [#12]tpab is a masterpiece
also he believes damn is kendrick prime.. lmao
Wdym, damn is objectively Kendrick’s prime, he sold 600k first week if I remember correctly and it charted for an insane length of time. He won’t get close to 600k ever again nor was he anywhere close before damn.
jawn [#41]Lyricism: kdot>>>cole>drake>=kanye
Rapping/flow: kdot>cole>kanye>drake
Quality of albums: kdot>kanye>>>drake>>cole
Production: kanye>kdot>>>cole>drake
Hit-making: drake>kanye>kdot>>>>>cole
Bro Drake beating Cole on album quality is a bit crazy but the rest is reasonable
MadnessMedia [#38]Lyricism: kdot>cole>kanye>>>drake
Rapping/flow: cole>kdot>kanye>>>drake
Quality of albums: kdot>kanye>>cole>>drake
Production: kanye>>kdot=cole>drake
Hit-making: drake>>cole>kanye>kdot
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MadnessMedia [#43]Bro Drake beating Cole on album quality is a bit crazy but the rest is reasonable
drake has 3 classics, cole has hardly 1
batchestingveryhard [#17]yet shitrx could never beat them 😂
? NRG vs. PRX happened in Masters Tokyo, and PRX won.
and OPTC vs. PRX in Copenhagen? Which PRX ALSO won?
Kuuga [#5]Yo first shit was classic
Your last shit was tragic
:fire:
Mr. Morale still clears all of Cole's discography except 2014 FHD, which is to show how good Kendrick's discography really is. Why did Cole ever diss that of all things about Kendrick? That bar is tragic.
jawn [#46]drake has 3 classics, cole has hardly 1
True, but not true b/c "hardly" is just false. I was ranking the artists off of the quality of their average body of work, and on that front drake shits the bed a bit and cole is objectively more consistent.
milflover92 [#47]? NRG vs. PRX happened in Masters Tokyo, and PRX won.
and OPTC vs. PRX in Copenhagen? Which PRX ALSO won?
wrongrx
canyon [#18]J. Cole is the one of the best rappers alive now. His works are a classic and not for the newer attention span deprived generation who don't like anything other than Carti Yeat Uzi.
Simply put they overvalue beats over lyrics and will call any bar trash or corny if it doesn't mention sex weed smoke racism killing etc, you get it.Cole being downplayed by everyone meanwhile "Seeyahhh BIHHH Cahhh Littt WHAEEE" music is being appreciated, that's why I never listen to anyone's opinion on music nowadays.
Also a friend of mine who's in Chicago and is black says the hood prefers Cole over K. Dot, don't listen to Twitter or Reddit about music opinion because its mostly filled with white mentally retarted teens.
this has to be a copypasta
MadnessMedia [#42]Wdym, damn is objectively Kendrick’s prime, he sold 600k first week if I remember correctly and it charted for an insane length of time. He won’t get close to 600k ever again nor was he anywhere close before damn.
It was his peak in terms of numbers, but it was by far not his best project. Gkmc, tpab, section 80, and untitled unmastered are all better imo.
Ballsamolee [#52]It was his peak in terms of numbers, but it was by far not his best project. Gkmc, tpab, section 80, and untitled unmastered are all better imo.
I agree with you, but when cole is talking about kdot's prime hes not talking about the album that he or other people thought was the best. A lot of people would agree that it's not his best work, but damn is objectively kendrick's prime and I'm not sure why bladee666 found it funny that cole pointed that out.
idc about rap beef i think we should all stop caring about 1-upping each other HOWEVER it is so funny that cole's first response is just to go through kendrick's discography and basically give his personal rating. most of the time you seem people attack the person themself, but cole and kendrick aren't really on bad terms and kendrick doesn't have some awful past to bring up, so we end up just reviewing music instead of beefing. this is all especially funny when its Kendrick Lamar that you're targetting. i can't think of anyone with a more consistent, universally loved, and critically-acclaimed catalogue, and cole decides his best chance of winning the beef is to call TPAB overrated and sleepy. like huh??? there's like 100 people in the world that agree with him, and millions who dont
Gummybears [#4]damn and gkmc are both significantly better albums production wise
what on earth do yall be saying on this website lmaooo
canyon [#18]J. Cole is the one of the best rappers alive now. His works are a classic and not for the newer attention span deprived generation who don't like anything other than Carti Yeat Uzi.
Simply put they overvalue beats over lyrics and will call any bar trash or corny if it doesn't mention sex weed smoke racism killing etc, you get it.Cole being downplayed by everyone meanwhile "Seeyahhh BIHHH Cahhh Littt WHAEEE" music is being appreciated, that's why I never listen to anyone's opinion on music nowadays.
Also a friend of mine who's in Chicago and is black says the hood prefers Cole over K. Dot, don't listen to Twitter or Reddit about music opinion because its mostly filled with white mentally retarted teens.
on a post about conscious rap canyon somehow found a way to complain about carti and uzi yet again. anyway jumpoutdahousejumpoutdahousejumpoutdahousejumpoutda
MadnessMedia [#49]True, but not true b/c "hardly" is just false. I was ranking the artists off of the quality of their average body of work, and on that front drake shits the bed a bit and cole is objectively more consistent.
i mean depends on what you value, i appreciate drake's higher highs over cole's just average 6/10 albums
canyon [#18]J. Cole is the one of the best rappers alive now. His works are a classic and not for the newer attention span deprived generation who don't like anything other than Carti Yeat Uzi.
Simply put they overvalue beats over lyrics and will call any bar trash or corny if it doesn't mention sex weed smoke racism killing etc, you get it.Cole being downplayed by everyone meanwhile "Seeyahhh BIHHH Cahhh Littt WHAEEE" music is being appreciated, that's why I never listen to anyone's opinion on music nowadays.
Also a friend of mine who's in Chicago and is black says the hood prefers Cole over K. Dot, don't listen to Twitter or Reddit about music opinion because its mostly filled with white mentally retarted teens.
on a post about conscious rap canyon somehow found a way to complain about carti and uzi yet again. anyway jumpoutdahousejumpoutdahousejumpoutdahousejumpoutda
daniellelele [#56]idc about rap beef i think we should all stop caring about 1-upping each other HOWEVER it is so funny that cole's first response is just to go through kendrick's discography and basically give his personal rating. most of the time you seem people attack the person themself, but cole and kendrick aren't really on bad terms and kendrick doesn't have some awful past to bring up, so we end up just reviewing music instead of beefing. this is all especially funny when its Kendrick Lamar that you're targetting. i can't think of anyone with a more consistent, universally loved, and critically-acclaimed catalogue, and cole decides his best chance of winning the beef is to call TPAB overrated and sleepy. like huh??? there's like 100 people in the world that agree with him, and millions who dont
Cudi clears
jawn [#59]i mean depends on what you value, i appreciate drake's higher highs over cole's just average 6/10 albums
I mean I can just say i appreciate cole's higher highs over drake's just average 4/10 albums, but i get what you're saying.
From the perspective of a cole fan (which I'm not), I could see myself being way less disappointed after coles average drop than I would be if i were a drake fan after drakes average drop, if that makes sense. I feel like thats an important distinction which is why in album quality i cant rank drake higher, even though I appreciate his highs much more than coles highs.
MadnessMedia [#63]I mean I can just say i appreciate cole's higher highs over drake's just average 4/10 albums, but i get what you're saying.
From the perspective of a cole fan (which I'm not), I could see myself being way less disappointed after coles average drop than I would be if i were a drake fan after drakes average drop, if that makes sense. I feel like thats an important distinction which is why in album quality i cant rank drake higher, even though I appreciate his highs much more than coles highs.
as a drake fan i'm not really dissapointed when he drops mid, i know he is way past his prime as an artist, i'm just looking for cool vibey songs to add in my playlist at this point not a full album experience like in take care, nwts, iyrtitl
MadnessMedia [#54]I agree with you, but when cole is talking about kdot's prime hes not talking about the album that he or other people thought was the best. A lot of people would agree that it's not his best work, but damn is objectively kendrick's prime and I'm not sure why bladee666 found it funny that cole pointed that out.
I feel like an artists prime is their best work, and not their highest selling work. It’s like saying travis scott’s prime is astroworld instead of rodeo.
Zephyros [#27]bro jcole only has one album compared to anything kdot has put out
and the "your second shit put ngas to sleep but they gassed it" line is flat out wrong bro gkmc is literally one of the greatest hip hop albums of all time
He didn’t include section 80
jawn [#64]as a drake fan i'm not really dissapointed when he drops mid, i know he is way past his prime as an artist, i'm just looking for cool vibey songs to add in my playlist at this point not a full album experience like in take care, nwts, iyrtitl
I agree, and that's what I would say makes drake so good these days b/c at least he drops often, even if there's only a few standout songs. Drake has 3 projects that clear coles entire discography (the ones you said) and WATTBA also clears everything excluding 2014FHD so I'm gonna change my list a bit.
Lyricism: kdot>>>cole>kanye>drake
Rapping/flow: kdot>cole>kanye>drake
Quality of albums: kdot>kanye>>>drake>=cole
Production: kanye>>>kdot>cole>=drake
Hit-making: drake>>kanye>>cole>=kdot
Ballsamolee [#65]I feel like an artists prime is their best work, and not their highest selling work. It’s like saying travis scott’s prime is astroworld instead of rodeo.
That's a good way to think about artists' primes and I agree. I was just going off of what cole meant in his diss and what people, afaik, usually mean when they talk primes.
MadnessMedia [#67]I agree, and that's what I would say makes drake so good these days b/c at least he drops often, even if there's only a few standout songs. Drake has 3 projects that clear coles entire discography (the ones you said) and WATTBA also clears everything excluding 2014FHD so I'm gonna change my list a bit.
Lyricism: kdot>>>cole>kanye>drake
Rapping/flow: kdot>cole>kanye>drake
Quality of albums: kdot>kanye>>>drake>=cole
Production: kanye>>>kdot>cole>=drake
Hit-making: drake>>kanye>>cole>=kdot
kanye has more hits than drake imo
MadnessMedia [#67]I agree, and that's what I would say makes drake so good these days b/c at least he drops often, even if there's only a few standout songs. Drake has 3 projects that clear coles entire discography (the ones you said) and WATTBA also clears everything excluding 2014FHD so I'm gonna change my list a bit.
Lyricism: kdot>>>cole>kanye>drake
Rapping/flow: kdot>cole>kanye>drake
Quality of albums: kdot>kanye>>>drake>=cole
Production: kanye>>>kdot>cole>=drake
Hit-making: drake>>kanye>>cole>=kdot
kendrick got more hits than cole
n1cf [#2]both mid
yeat clears both
yeat absolutely pisses on jcole but id still have kendrick over yeat
Barre [#13]TPAB clears everything your favorite rapper has put out
ye and trav's entire catalogue clears TPAB
TheHowling02 [#61]Cudi clears
i really wish he did :( its been kinda annoying how middling his recent stuff has been
daniellelele [#73]i really wish he did :( its been kinda annoying how middling his recent stuff has been
realy? Personally I really liked entergalactic (both the album and the film). Havent checked out his most recent album tho
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