you've been doing the same execs and midrounds since 2014 the game has no fluctuation in the playstyle its so dry if you have cracked players your going to win, unlike valorant where you actually have to be strategic to win besides being cracked, i play the game sometimes its fun but at a high level how do you not get bored doing the same shit constantly.
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StyrofoamOne [#2]wym its the same as valorant but instead of grenades its flying smokes and skye birds.
you both put your smokes down
entry and flash,
kill on site
post plant with mollies and smokes,
win the round?
valulrant is noob game tho, you have shit like jett dash, healing, sage res and all kinds of noob shit
valulrant is a meme kids game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKFuaOQrobQ&ab_channel=TheWarOwl
Also it's mostly the same game. But cs has no bullshit with abilites that play for u or movement impact abilities that make u crouch automatically
bc its pure skill where everyone has the same stuff. u cant abuse anything in the game. also the casting clears every esport outside of kr league. now playing cs is boring but watching is a whole nother story. also aintnoway val ppl actually think donk and monesy and other good cs pros dont clear val pros.
you just have a fundamental misunderstanding of what cs players enjoy. "doing the same shit constantly" is exactly why they like it, it's the same experience every time and the only thing you can work on is improving yourself gradually. it's the same reason cs players make fun of the abilities, because they just hate anything too chaotic and unpredictable
some ppl prefer a game that constantly evolves and makes you learn how to adapt (valorant) and some ppl prefer a game that stays the same and allows you to master the fundamentals (cs)
SmithAndWinston [#8]lets not forget that ascent meta for val has been the exact same for the past 3 years
exactly thank you
its literally just kayo knife tree run up tree kayo flash jett smoke then dash omen tp
same shit for 2 years and yall glaze ascent so hard
People play basketball, soccer, tennis etc how many years long already? Anything major had changed? Probably none. Are people still playing them? Yes.
When a game or a sport or anything is fun that has a huge replayability than it will live forever. U dont really need meta changes like cough, league of legends, overwatch, valorant etc to shake up the meta to proceed to make the game fresh and interesting. Thats the issue with hero theme game. U need new stuff every week or ur adhd audience will not stick around. Look at cod, it’s basically the same thing and people still buy it every year. Valorant is literally worst than cod when it comes to the replayability. Matter fact, people still enjoy the og character more than any new character thats released recently. Jett replayability is 100x more harbor/iso/clove/deadlock and many others. People play certain characters to win for the sake of it is the meta. They dont play it because its fun. U want fun, everyone will probably be on jett, reyna chamber, raze, phoenix and other og characters.
ik its bait but the midround part is sorta true, however, cs and val midround is like the same theory and it will be forever because of how the game is centered around the plant and angles and all the cs stuff. the only substantial differences between cs and val (and csgo and cs 1.6 and css and part cs2 versions and all tacfps games based on cs) strategically are mechanical ones unless a character REALLY warps the meta in valorant case
and yeah the execs are different every year
tenzDdemon1 [#12]People play basketball, soccer, tennis etc how many years long already? Anything major had changed? Probably none. Are people still playing them? Yes.
When a game or a sport or anything is fun that has a huge replayability than it will live forever. U dont really need meta changes like cough, league of legends, overwatch, valorant etc to shake up the meta to proceed to make the game fresh and interesting. Thats the issue with hero theme game. U need new stuff every week or ur adhd audience will not stick around. Look at cod, it’s basically the same thing and people still buy it every year. Valorant is literally worst than cod when it comes to the replayability. Matter fact, people still enjoy the og character more than any new character thats released recently. Jett replayability is 100x more harbor/iso/clove/deadlock and many others. People play certain characters to win for the sake of it is the meta. They dont play it because its fun. U want fun, everyone will probably be on jett, reyna chamber, raze, phoenix and other og characters.
tbh league comes out with new champs but most of the time they dont make pro meta bc they r straight garbage or if they do its bc they r way too op (smolder). the things that change the meta in league r the nerfs and buffs they do to existing champs and items.
StyrofoamOne [#5]like i dont understand i play both, you say that cs is boring but lineups are the same as brim smokes from the sky, just with more brainpower
i get what you're saying but naw its not "brainpower." you're not suddenly a better player just if you memorize smoke lineups for every map... that doesn't equate to strategy lol
moshimoshiman24 [#14]tbh league comes out with new champs but most of the time they dont make pro meta bc they r straight garbage or if they do its bc they r way too op (smolder). the things that change the meta in league r the nerfs and buffs they do to existing champs and items.
If they don’t release anything, the player base will complain. Thats why they are either throwing out trash new character or super op characters and later nerf it to death. Hero theme game audience cant live without the game being “fresh” every 3 months. Or i should say thats the issue with gen z. They constantly need new stuff to feed into their brain to get that “fun” whereas older folks dont need no change in what they already liked
tenzDdemon1 [#16]If they don’t release anything, the player base will complain. Thats why they are either throwing out trash new character or super op characters and later nerf it to death. Hero theme game audience cant live without the game being “fresh” every 3 months. Or i should say thats the issue with gen z. They constantly need new stuff to feed into their brain to get that “fun” whereas older folks dont need no change in what they already liked
fair point. thought u were only talking bout pro play
willpc29 [#6]Bro I watched Master and couldn't see that so good execs that u are talking about. Lol, most of the game was a retake simulator where the bomb was planted with everyone alive because there's a ton of bullshit happening at the same time that the players can't do anything.
the biggest problem pro valorant is suffering from is retake simulator. Comparing it to the CS major right now it feels like there's a lot more gunfights and action compared to the dead time in valorant with waiting for util.
SmithAndWinston [#18]the biggest problem pro valorant is suffering from is retake simulator. Comparing it to the CS major right now it feels like there's a lot more gunfights and action compared to the dead time in valorant with waiting for util.
yeah
the util is too strong. you literally can't hold some sites like ascent A or sunset A. but so is the retake, because the util is too strong...
unbannad [#4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKFuaOQrobQ&ab_channel=TheWarOwl
Also it's mostly the same game. But cs has no bullshit with abilites that play for u or movement impact abilities that make u crouch automatically
thats lowkey the point of valorant no? if you want a game thats purely based on raw mechanics (you want to click head and win) then play CS. if you want more complexity to the game that requires more strategizing (so that the game isnt just based on raw aim) then play Val
idk there's no macro strat that i can see so far. feels like they literally just try and take as much map control as possible then exect at some certain time with no overarching conditioning or manipulation of rotations on T side and on CT the point is just to let ur 2 guys try and hold the site and get their ones and end up in a 3v3 retake
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