I want to see this matchup so bad in Shanghai hopefully they meet in the playoffs and settle once in for all who’s the #1 raze
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Zekken raze vs Jinggs raze for #1
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champ2k21 [#4]imo jinggg clears but this is definitely a close matchup i really can't wait for PRX vs sen again
show jinggs masters trophy
Sushi_ [#6]Zekken would need to shit on Jinggg in biblical fashion to dethrone him, Zekken might be the better duelist but the way Jinggg played raze is yet to be replicated
big agree, Jawgemo came the closest at champs IMO
TheAceGamer30 [#5]show jinggs masters trophy
Lmao downvoting me for saying that I support prx after sen lol
amogus-balls-nuts [#7]big agree, Jawgemo came the closest at champs IMO
yeah Jawg is honestly closer than zekken to dethroning his raze. Zekken has probably already surpassed him overall as a duelist but hasnt really come close to showing the mechanical prowess aim, movement, and game sense wise that Jinggg and Jawg have shown on raze.
Sushi_ [#10]yeah Jawg is honestly closer than zekken to dethroning his raze. Zekken has probably already surpassed him overall as a duelist but hasnt really come close to showing the mechanical prowess aim, movement, and game sense wise that Jinggg and Jawg have shown on raze.
I pretty sure he can do it . Zekkens raze is incredible and only keeps getting better
Sushi_ [#10]yeah Jawg is honestly closer than zekken to dethroning his raze. Zekken has probably already surpassed him overall as a duelist but hasnt really come close to showing the mechanical prowess aim, movement, and game sense wise that Jinggg and Jawg have shown on raze.
Zekken def a better fragger on raze tho, he also has great movement, I don’t think there’s that much of a difference between them in pure mechanics/satchels
It comes down to systematic raze + freestyle raze
TheAceGamer30 [#5]show jinggs masters trophy
show how many international events zekken's been too.Consistency matters more than just peaking for a few months
champ2k21 [#13]show how many international events zekken's been too.Consistency matters more than just peaking for a few months
3 events and xset were decent
TheAceGamer30 [#14]3 events and xset were decent
lmao exactly. Two second place finishes one third place one fourth place finish.Im sorry bro but what jinggg's raze has given us in 2023 is still yet to be beaten .Y'all sen fans need to stfu for once
champ2k21 [#16]lmao exactly. Two second place finishes one third place one fourth place finish.Im sorry bro but what jinggg's raze has given us in 2023 is still yet to be beaten .Y'all sen fans need to stfu for once
Nope cus zekken is superior
Sushi_ [#10]yeah Jawg is honestly closer than zekken to dethroning his raze. Zekken has probably already surpassed him overall as a duelist but hasnt really come close to showing the mechanical prowess aim, movement, and game sense wise that Jinggg and Jawg have shown on raze.
zekken definitely has potential brother.I think if we just ease the expectations on him he'll be able to perform at his peak since he's only 19 rn
champ2k21 [#13]show how many international events zekken's been too.Consistency matters more than just peaking for a few months
He hasn’t been peeking for a few month Zekken has been consistently the best player on Sen even though the team’s issues last season and they’ve won 3 events in the last 5 months Afreeca tv, Americas kickoff, masters Madrid
DdoggyVII [#22]He hasn’t been peeking for a few month Zekken has been consistently the best player on Sen even though the team’s issues last season and they’ve won 3 events in the last 5 months Afreeca tv, Americas kickoff, masters Madrid
Yeah zekken has been the best player for a shit team in 2023 that made neither masters nor champions event, Your argument still wouldnt make sense.Meanwhile jinggg has been consistent throughout 2022 and 2023 and if you sen fans actually watched the matches you'd maybe see how amazing jinggg's raze is. Sorry to break it to ya, but unless proved other wise, jinggg is just levels above
champ2k21 [#13]show how many international events zekken's been too.Consistency matters more than just peaking for a few months
at least zekken showed up on LANs while on XSET and SEN for the first time, Asuna didn't even came close to be known by the top teams itw lol
talking about consistency and peaking for periods of times when your team isn't known globally and the big stages
edit: JINJJ is goated I believe he is better than zekken
champ2k21 [#25]Yeah zekken has been the best player for a shit team in 2023 that made neither masters nor champions event, Your argument still wouldnt make sense.Meanwhile jinggg has been consistent throughout 2022 and 2023 and if you sen fans actually watched the matches you'd maybe see how amazing jinggg's raze is. Sorry to break it to ya, but unless proved other wise, jinggg is just levels above
shit team that destroyed 100t again and again even with dephh igling the roaster lol
AK3 [#26]at least zekken showed up on LANs while on XSET and SEN for the first time, Asuna didn't even came close to be known by the top teams itw lol
talking about consistency and peaking for periods of times when your team isn't known globally and the big stages
edit: JINJJ is goated I believe he is better than zekken
good finally a sen fan acknowledging good players
Also its funny how you're pissed about someone else talking about their opinion cuz of flair.You should get off vlr ngl
champ2k21 [#28]sen fans try not to bring up other people's flair challenge(IMPOSSIBLE)(99% FAIL)
Also dont cry, jinggg>>>zekken lil bro
tbf you rep 100t flair
so you 100% deserve it dude
1.you can't be talking shi when your team has'nt won anything since the game's released
- you got ASUNA for raze
Bald_man [#30]tbf you rep 100t flair
so you 100% deserve it dude1.you can't be talking shi when your team has'nt won anything since the game's released
- you got ASUNA for raze
sen fans try not to bring up flair challenge in every thread(IMPOSSIBLE)(99% FAIL)
champ2k21 [#31]sen fans try not to bring up flair challenge in every thread(IMPOSSIBLE)(99% FAIL)
mad?
Kuracpimpekkitadjoka17cm [#15]what is your brithday date
Hi, Acegamer30's father here, he is currently 11 years old right now turning 12! i recently bought him an ipad pro so he could play roblox, i love him even though he's a spoiled brat 😘😍🥰 (extra note: i also bought him a character in roblox that has swords in the back so he could get roblox girlfriends)
Pengu12 [#3]The greatest raze of current time vs the greatest raze of all time
its like lebron met luka doncic or some shit
AK3 [#26]at least zekken showed up on LANs while on XSET and SEN for the first time, Asuna didn't even came close to be known by the top teams itw lol
talking about consistency and peaking for periods of times when your team isn't known globally and the big stages
edit: JINJJ is goated I believe he is better than zekken
and jawgemo diffs zekken no cap
MeloSquids [#35]Hi, Acegamer30's father here, he is currently 11 years old right now turning 12! i recently bought him an ipad pro so he could play roblox, i love him even though he's a spoiled brat 😘😍🥰 (extra note: i also bought him a character in roblox that has swords in the back so he could get roblox girlfriends)
Who are you 💀. My dad wouldn’t support 100 frauds get the fuck out of here imposter
DecimateYKTV [#34]its jingg then jawg then zekken
No it jawgemo > zekken > jingg and jawgemo and zekken can be interchangeable
TheAceGamer30 [#42]tell me when jingg has won something instead of choking bo5s like he’s done 💀
tell me when zekken and his team has been as consistent as jinggg and paper rex
MeloSquids [#35]Hi, Acegamer30's father here, he is currently 11 years old right now turning 12! i recently bought him an ipad pro so he could play roblox, i love him even though he's a spoiled brat 😘😍🥰 (extra note: i also bought him a character in roblox that has swords in the back so he could get roblox girlfriends)
you're fake, Acegamer30 doesnt have a dad
champ2k21 [#44]tell me when zekken and his team has been as consistent as jinggg and paper rex
I’m not fucking talking about consistency I talking about wins for the team . Prx are known chokers which includes jingg and sen is not with zekken . Why are we arguing I want prx to win just as bad but jingg doesn’t clear zekken
TheAceGamer30 [#41]Downvoting the truth zekken literally has a masters trophy
bro Ace lets be honest jiing is still slightly better than zekken on raze(on raze) But overall zekken might be better
tomato211222 [#47]bro Ace lets be honest jiing is still slightly better than zekken on raze(on raze) But overall zekken might be better
in terms from form zekken should beat jingg as jingg hasn’t played in months in tier 1 level, but zekken keeps surpassing every great duelist . He did it to aspas , he did it demon1 what’s stopping from doing to jingg you get me?
TheAceGamer30 [#40]Who are you 💀. My dad wouldn’t support 100 frauds get the fuck out of here imposter
#45 LMFAOOOO
TheAceGamer30 [#49]in terms from form zekken should beat jingg as jingg hasn’t played in months in tier 1 level, but zekken keeps surpassing every great duelist . He did it to aspas , he did it demon1 what’s stopping from doing to jingg you get me?
he did not surpass aspas off of 1 game where Com, Mazino, and Tex combined for -40 and -11 FB
sure he beat aspas, but its a team game MF
Psion [#53]he did not surpass aspas off of 1 game where Com, Mazino, and Tex combined for -40 and -11 FB
sure he beat aspas, but its a team game MF
my point is he did better than aspas which he did. and yes aspas has a team full of frauds I’ll agree with you but aspas still fragged a lot look at the 100t game bro was practically smurfing for them
TheAceGamer30 [#46]I’m not fucking talking about consistency I talking about wins for the team . Prx are known chokers which includes jingg and sen is not with zekken . Why are we arguing I want prx to win just as bad but jingg doesn’t clear zekken
consistency matters more than just peak performance during few months jinggg has been the best raze player for pretty much the entire 2023 honestly jawgemo is probably a closer second place to him
Since you're so delusional, lemme bring up the stats
Jinggg:
4th in masters reykjavik
2nd in masters copenhagen
3rd in masters tokyo
2nd in champions 2023
3rd in masters madrid 2024
Zekken
7th-8th place masters copenhagen
5th-5th champs 2022
Masters madrid winners
zekken is good but it'll take along time to replicate jinggg's level of success cuz he was without a doubt the best raze in 2023 and not even zekken comes second place to that(jawgemo comes 2nd)
The only people agreeing with you are other sentinels fans cuz you're all fucking braindead
TheAceGamer30 [#49]in terms from form zekken should beat jingg as jingg hasn’t played in months in tier 1 level, but zekken keeps surpassing every great duelist . He did it to aspas , he did it demon1 what’s stopping from doing to jingg you get me?
Um are you braindead what did i say and whats your reply
I said Jiing is still slightly better than zekken i would go far to say even aspas is still slighlty better yes zekken my goat has proven to be the best in the world but jiing consistency is unmatched same with aspas if zekken keeps this up for the entire year then ok were talking
TheAceGamer30 [#55]my point is he did better than aspas which he did. and yes aspas has a team full of frauds I’ll agree with you but aspas still fragged a lot look at the 100t game bro was practically smurfing for them
Nope that game he did some support utility unlike the sentinels game
TheAceGamer30 [#55]my point is he did better than aspas which he did. and yes aspas has a team full of frauds I’ll agree with you but aspas still fragged a lot look at the 100t game bro was practically smurfing for them
but that point means NOTHING it is 1 game. if there was enough evidence to say either aspas or demon1 fell off, go right a fucking head and praise zekken. but they've played 5 games combined
tomato211222 [#57]Um are you braindead what did i say and whats your reply
I said Jiing is still slightly better than zekken i would go far to say even aspas is still slighlty better yes zekken my goat has proven to be the best in the world but jiing consistency is unmatched same with aspas if zekken keeps this up for the entire year then ok were talking
yeah if zekken keeps up this level of performance then hes def in the contention of best raze
tomato211222 [#57]Um are you braindead what did i say and whats your reply
I said Jiing is still slightly better than zekken i would go far to say even aspas is still slighlty better yes zekken my goat has proven to be the best in the world but jiing consistency is unmatched same with aspas if zekken keeps this up for the entire year then ok were talking
no shit bro but zekken will keep proving people wrong even with the games they have you get me
TheAceGamer30 [#61]no shit bro but zekken will keep proving people wrong even with the games they have you get me
if SEN don't make shanghai it is 100% on you opening your mouth this much lmao
Psion [#59]but that point means NOTHING it is 1 game. if there was enough evidence to say either aspas or demon1 fell off, go right a fucking head and praise zekken. but they've played 5 games combined
well there isn’t any evidence but common you gotta respect zekken for how good he is and I feel like saying all this doesn’t give him respect maybe just me
Psion [#62]if SEN don't make shanghai it is 100% on you opening your mouth this much lmao
Good 👍 i can’t wait for them to lose to 100 frauds
TheAceGamer30 [#63]well there isn’t any evidence but common you gotta respect zekken for how good he is and I feel like saying all this doesn’t give him respect maybe just me
i do respect him. because of you I've lost respect for him as a player. also its come on not common
champ2k21 [#60]yeah if zekken keeps up this level of performance then hes def in the contention of best raze
Contention is crazy he is one of the best razes in the game no question. The question is can he beat the best raze in pacific and I think he can but people have doubt for some reason
TheAceGamer30 [#65]Good 👍 i can’t wait for them to lose to 100 frauds
i fucking hope they don't even though i like 100T i want my pickems
TheAceGamer30 [#67]Contention is crazy he is one of the best razes in the game no question. The question is can he beat the best raze in pacific and I think he can but people have doubt for some reason
he's def one of the best razes he said "best raze" meaning the #1 raze which is unclaimed rn as we've only had 1 event and stage1 hasn't started
TheAceGamer30 [#63]well there isn’t any evidence but common you gotta respect zekken for how good he is and I feel like saying all this doesn’t give him respect maybe just me
who isnt giving him respect? zekken is one of the best raze players no doubt but calling him the best is a bit of a stretch as of now when you had players like aspas,derke,jinggg,jawgemo etc
Psion [#69]he's def one of the best razes he said "best raze" meaning the #1 raze which is unclaimed rn as we've only had 1 event and stage1 hasn't started
ok bro
TheAceGamer30 [#67]Contention is crazy he is one of the best razes in the game no question. The question is can he beat the best raze in pacific and I think he can but people have doubt for some reason
brother do you even know how to read, i said "in contention" for the BEST raze.He's already one of the best.....
TheAceGamer30 [#40]Who are you 💀. My dad wouldn’t support 100 frauds get the fuck out of here imposter
wdym son, im ur father. Remember when i made you an account on youtube because you said you wanted to be a roblox streamer and get tons of roblox girlfriends while you were screaming at me "DAD I NEED ROBUX 😡🤬"
Psion [#68]i fucking hope they don't even though i like 100T i want my pickems
yeah sen should win this easily but I feel like sen won’t bring anything new to win the game as there’s no need for them to show new strats , it’s up to 100t if they want to show up and win the game
MeloSquids [#73]wdym son, im ur father. Remember when i made you an account on youtube because you said you wanted to be a roblox streamer and get tons of roblox girlfriends while you were screaming at me "DAD I NEED ROBUX 😡🤬"
grow up 100 trash fan
Psion [#62]if SEN don't make shanghai it is 100% on you opening your mouth this much lmao
yeah i agree i still remember when sen fans were running their mouths after 2021 masters reykjavik then proceeded to lose to G2 LMAO.But honestly i wish the best for them since ive been a johnqt believer ever since he was on ghost
TheAceGamer30 [#71]ok bro
lmfaoo he was the best raze of madrid, and Americas Kickoff, but if you include other regions, Rb's, KK's, Stew's, and Jremy's razes were all rated better via VLR rating for Jremy and ACS for the other 3 bc China. im not saying his raze is worse than those 4, but it shows how judging off of a small sample size is stupid as hell compared to tenured resumes
Psion [#78]lmfaoo he was the best raze of madrid, and Americas Kickoff, but if you include other regions, Rb's, KK's, Stew's, and Jremy's razes were all rated better via VLR rating for Jremy and ACS for the other 3 bc China. im not saying his raze is worse than those 4, but it shows how judging off of a small sample size is stupid as hell compared to tenured resumes
Vlr rating is bullshit bro
TheAceGamer30 [#75]grow up 100 trash fan
have some respect when you're speaking with your father 😡, im grounding you for 2 months without your ipad and my credit card for your robux 😡🤬
champ2k21 [#77]yeah i agree i still remember when sen fans were running their mouths after 2021 masters reykjavik then proceeded to lose to G2 LMAO.But honestly i wish the best for them since ive been a johnqt believer ever since he was on ghost
if SEN go out top 8 at shanghai and in groups at champs i will laugh for days straight because history would of repeated itself
MeloSquids [#80]have some respect when you're speaking with your father 😡, im grounding you for 2 months without your ipad and my credit card for your robux 😡🤬
LMAO im actually dead man😂😂
MeloSquids [#80]have some respect when you're speaking with your father 😡, im grounding you for 2 months without your ipad and my credit card for your robux 😡🤬
Fuck you 😂 I’m still here 💀
Psion [#66]i do respect him. because of you I've lost respect for him as a player. also its come on not common
Auto correct did that , I’ll take fans being a blame for shit but we overwhelmingly just happy for sen
TheAceGamer30 [#79]Vlr rating is bullshit bro
wanna use the spike rating then?
Oxy, Meiy and Dep in that case. The rating system isn't what matters, its to prove the point that judging off of small sample sizes is stupid (this is literally a scientific fact that you are arguing against)
champ2k21 [#70]who isnt giving him respect? zekken is one of the best raze players no doubt but calling him the best is a bit of a stretch as of now when you had players like aspas,derke,jinggg,jawgemo etc
He only did better than 1/4 players I’m gonna hope he does it to all of them
TheAceGamer30 [#79]Vlr rating is bullshit bro
I'd rather believe vlr than a sentinels fan if im being honest with you
TheAceGamer30 [#86]He only did better than 1/4 players I’m gonna hope he does it to all of them
yea i only wish the best for zekken mans crazy af i wouldnt be surprised if he gets to jinggg level or even surpasses him by the end of 2024
Psion [#85]wanna use the spike rating then?
Oxy, Meiy and Dep in that case. The rating system isn't what matters, its to prove the point that judging off of small sample sizes is stupid (this is literally a scientific fact that you are arguing against)
ok I’ll just wait for zekken to prove you people wrong like I told you all when sen was going to prove people wrong
hellfire [#76]recency bias is insane how could you ppl put zekken in the same spot as jingg and completely forget about keznit or even jawgemo
I dont even know but i think its just the sen fans since vlr is just infested with alot of them
TheAceGamer30 [#89]ok I’ll just wait for zekken to prove you people wrong like I told you all when sen was going to prove people wrong
"you people" im not doubting him bro lmaooo. You realize how hard it is to repeat? If there was an event SEN wouldn't make it is Shanghai(or make playoffs, or win, or any other metric). a huge part of the reason FNC repeated is because EMEA was utter dogshit besides them last year and Lock\in was a stupid AF format.
Being realistic does not equal doubting
champ2k21 [#87]I'd rather believe vlr than a sentinels fan if im being honest with you
most people say vlr rating is bullshit
TheAceGamer30 [#93]most people say vlr rating is bullshit
yeah thats my point, i was proving your delusion
Psion [#92]"you people" im not doubting him bro lmaooo. You realize how hard it is to repeat? If there was an event SEN wouldn't make it is Shanghai(or make playoffs, or win, or any other metric). a huge part of the reason FNC repeated is because EMEA was utter dogshit besides them last year and Lock\in was a stupid AF format.
Being realistic does not equal doubting
but your not being realistic if you think jingg is still better rn since he hasn’t practiced in a while . We know how good practice is important but prx is just that good that might not need any practice but we shall know that when they play their games in stage 1
champ2k21 [#94]yeah thats my point, i was proving your delusion
if you believe vlr rating idk what to say 😭
TheAceGamer30 [#95]but your not being realistic if you think jingg is still better rn since he hasn’t practiced in a while . We know how good practice is important but prx is just that good that might not need any practice but we shall know that when they play their games in stage 1
please check my posts, i NEVER said jingg was better. I said why others thought he was better, not that he was. Please read.
Psion [#97]please check my posts, i NEVER said jingg was better. I said why others thought he was better, not that he was. Please read.
oh ok 👍 then why argue then let’s wait for the games yeah?
TheAceGamer30 [#93]most people say vlr rating is bullshit
combining it with thespike and rib is always the move for actual comprehensive studies
TheAceGamer30 [#96]if you believe vlr rating idk what to say 😭
brother do you even know what you're saying, i was implying that sentinels fans are so fucking delusional that even vlr gives better ratings than them
I think any sensible guy(which is a non sentinels fan) wouldnt believe shit that comes out of 80% of sentinels fans ngl
TheAceGamer30 [#98]oh ok 👍 then why argue then let’s wait for the games yeah?
i love debating lol, even if its with semi-delusional people such as yourself
TheAceGamer30 [#83]Fuck you 😂 I’m still here 💀
stop using that filthy language language in front of your father😡🤬.He didnt raise you for you to say such words😡
champ2k21 [#102]stop using that filthy language language in front of your father😡🤬.He didnt raise you for you to say such words😡
grow Tf up man it’s not even funny
Psion [#101]i love debating lol, even if its with semi-delusional people such as yourself
so I got baited to arguing with you man fuck
TheAceGamer30 [#98]oh ok 👍 then why argue then let’s wait for the games yeah?
Most of my takes are either
A. Predictions (what will happen, not what is)
B. mild
C. mild in my opinion but others don't see the light (champions being worth much more than masters for instance, you having to win champions to be a champ)
read a bit deeper into what im saying in the future
TheAceGamer30 [#104]so I got baited to arguing with you man fuck
i mean it wasn't bait unless you are so delusion you failed to take anything from what i've told you about sample sizes, seniority, etc
TheAceGamer30 [#107]nope can you leave me alone bro?
honestly i think we shud part ways and move on with our day i dont want to be talking to sen fans again
champ2k21 [#109]honestly i think we shud part ways and move on with our day i dont want to be talking to sen fans again
Finally fucking hell
champ2k21 [#39]and jawgemo diffs zekken no cap
at least we get diffed by known great players lmao
not by washed player and washed org who has been in the rebuild era since 2021
AK3 [#111]at least we get diffed by known great players lmao
not by washed player and washed org who has been in the rebuild era since 2021
jawgemo still clears ur entire team tho
At least us 100T fans dont run our mouths as much as you retarded insufferable morons do]
And we BEAT the world champions EG so keep that mouth shut lil bro
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