He should be studying TenZ omen gameplay instead of inting every round
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Netero [#2]I mean Ange1 is like 40, he probably shouldn't take opening duels
Ange1 said in an interview: "I like dying first so I can focus on IGLing."
Therefore, he prefers if NAVI are playing a 4v5.
- Smoke should NOT be taking entry Duels.
- This tweet is kinda misleading, since it counts in Viper, who acts like a sentinel rather than a traditional controller on defence. Site anchors should be engaging and winning the first duels.
- ANGE1 has recently shifted out of the main smokes role, Shao has been seen on main smokes most recently. ANGE1 still plays omen on breeze but him dying first isnt so harsh on the team because they would still have viper left
Netero [#2]I mean Ange1 is like 40, he probably shouldn't take opening duels
even in 40s you can still have good reflexes and reaction time
SimoVatrogasac [#7]even in 40s you can still have good reflexes and reaction time
but u need incredible, not good, reflexes and reaction time
to be a t1 pro
peep willminder's follow up tweet too, TenZ's omen wins almost 60% of his opening duels, and SEN win AN INSANE 87% of the round TenZ gets first kill ( which is 11% higher than the normal winrate for SEN in a 5v4). AND when he loses the opening duel they still win the round 5% more than their normal 4v5 rounds. SEN's aggressive plays work so well because they have 2 players that can go for them zekken and TenZ, and when their style works it's almost unwinnable for the enemy team. Example: vs NRG TenZ FB to FD ratio is 12:2 , while zekken's 20:12.
Psion [#9]but u need incredible, not good, reflexes and reaction time
to be a t1 pro
Ye I meant on good reflexes and reaction time for pro play. Fighter jet pilots or pro drivers are good examples, you can basically be in your late 30s/early 40s and still have incredible reaction time and reflexes. Most pro gamers in their 30s/late 20s don't retire because they fall off mechanically, they decide to go to college or they get better job opportunities, or because of some other reasons.
Netero [#2]I mean Ange1 is like 40, he probably shouldn't take opening duels
hes actually a good aimer, especially for his age
he dies first all the time because hes stupid, NOT because he whiffs
Psion [#9]but u need incredible, not good, reflexes and reaction time
to be a t1 pro
There's a study available online regarding reflexes and other factors in pro-gaming... peak performance, particularly in terms of reflexes, for index/middle fingers is around 39 years of age or so. This age represents the peak, rather than a stage of decline. So in this regard Ange1 is fine.
clocksky888 [#13]There's a study available online regarding reflexes and other factors in pro-gaming... peak performance, particularly in terms of reflexes, for index/middle fingers is around 39 years of age or so. This age represents the peak, rather than a stage of decline. So in this regard Ange1 is fine.
then how come we never see pros this old lmao
Psion [#14]then how come we never see pros this old lmao
Sure, it's up to you to discover as a homework ;) I'll just mention a clue about the responsibilities of adulthood - which you'll also uncover eventually lmao.
clocksky888 [#15]Sure, it's up to you to discover as a homework ;) I'll just mention a clue about the responsibilities of adulthood - which you'll also uncover eventually lmao.
No way you made up a study to cope with the fact that steel is washed 💀
nutab1e [#16]No way you made up a study to cope with the fact that steel is washed 💀
OMG... no way - I'm such an asshole ;) <3
nutab1e [#24]reading comprehension fails you again
Dunno, the convo is on Ange1 ... reading comprehension - all checked, right? Steel sounds like your obsession to me, bud.
clocksky888 [#25]Dunno, the convo is on Ange1 ... reading comprehension - all checked, right? Steel sounds like your obsession to me, bud.
lol, you watch steel on twitch every day don't lie
that's why you got riled up and had to jump into this thread, it reminded you how fucking washed he is
nutab1e [#26]lol, you watch steel on twitch every day don't lie
that's why you got riled up and had to jump into this thread, it reminded you how fucking washed he is
I don't watch live streams at all due to those RESPONSOBILITIES I brought up above ... only highlights on valorantmundi's channel ... I think you're mistaken me with someone else, no?
If you think STEEL is washed, then be it - your opinion.
clocksky888 [#27]I don't watch live streams at all due to those RESPONSOBILITIES I brought up above ... only highlights on valorantmundi's channel ... I think you're mistaken me with someone else, no?
If you think STEEL is washed, then be it - your opinion.
I read you like a book buddy, & obviously you have responsibilities cuz you're 35 years old and neglecting your kids to watch twitch
nutab1e [#28]I read you like a book buddy, & obviously you have responsibilities cuz you're 35 years old and neglecting your kids to watch twitch
I could be 26 with kids - just sayin 🍿
clocksky888 [#31]Go to bed, kid... still not ab1e - grade D at most 😘🍿
I'm not a washed boomer like you and ange000 I can keep my eyelids open at 8:45
nutab1e [#32]I'm not a washed boomer like you and ange000 I can keep my eyelids open at 8:45
Good luck
with your "not a washed boomer" life ...
BTW, cheers, you've left me quite amused with your nonsense 😘
clocksky888 [#33]Good luck
with your "not a washed boomer" life ...
BTW, cheers, you've left me quite amused with your nonsense 😘
ez
nutab1e [#36]is that what you call people who aren't washed
No, only you - noob ... noob game = notab1e
clocksky888 [#37]No, only you - noob ... noob game = notab1e
your 1st grade level etymological insults do not reflect your geriatric age irl
nutab1e [#39]your 1st grade level etymological insults do not reflect your geriatric age irl
I am just having a wee fun with you, mon cheri😘🍿
u mad or what?
clocksky888 [#40]I am just having a wee fun with you, mon cheri😘🍿
u mad or what?
im chilling lil bro
nutab1e [#41]im chilling lil bro
ok, then sounds legit... that is if STEEL is not brought to our attention.
clocksky888 [#42]ok, then sounds legit... that is if STEEL is not brought to our attention.
I saw through you that's all
nutab1e [#45]just don't mess with me again buddy 👿
Ohh, pardon moi... I just LOVE ploughing kids like you ... ez game 😘
clocksky888 [#46]Ohh, pardon moi... I just LOVE ploughing kids like you ... ez game 😘
you love ploughing kids? weird but okay
nutab1e [#47]you love ploughing kids? weird but okay
holy fuck this thread is so long
i had to continue thread like 3 times
now its 4
nutab1e [#47]you love ploughing kids? weird but okay
like you, mon cheri ... kids, like you or should I just say YOU ...? You're failing, kiddo... ding dong
clocksky888 [#49]like you, mon cheri ... kids, like you or should I just say YOU ...? You're failing, kiddo... ding dong
monogamous pedophilia is not where I thought this was going
kfan4238173 [#48]holy fuck this thread is so long
i had to continue thread like 3 times
now its 4
Never mind, he's just having his therapy session attendance checked ... though, he still sounds obsessed and not able type of individual.
geometrix [#4]Ange1 said in an interview: "I like dying first so I can focus on IGLing."
Therefore, he prefers if NAVI are playing a 4v5.
Ima use that one in my ranked games
nutab1e [#50]monogamous pedophilia is not where I thought this was going
If you envision the term PLOUGHING in a manner similar to the one you provided - SAW.... then you'll get it... careful with your vocabulary there 😘🍿
NO BUENO
clocksky888 [#53]If you envision the term PLOUGHING in a manner similar to the one you provided - SAW.... then you'll get it... careful with your vocabulary there 😘🍿
NO BUENO
not denying ur a pedo
nutab1e [#54]not denying ur a pedo
what's pedo? and who is pedo? I don't get it... your GAME is weak ASF!
clocksky888 [#55]what's pedo? and who is pedo? I don't get it... your GAME is weak ASF!
expand your vocabulary and check into an institution for pedos
nutab1e [#56]expand your vocabulary and check into an institution for pedos
Your GAME is weak ASF! I'm serious, you can't hold the pressure - no tact.
clocksky888 [#57]Your GAME is weak ASF! I'm serious, you can't hold the pressure - no tact.
bro thinks game = spamming the vlr font options
nutab1e [#58]bro thinks game = spamming the vlr font options
Bants = game... the term you brought is a bit too strong, ngl
clocksky888 [#59]Bants = game... the term you brought is a bit too strong, ngl
im dead serious and you said you wanted to plough kids
nutab1e [#60]im dead serious and you said you wanted to plough kids
I particularly mentioned - "kids, like YOU." Don't tell me you don't know what term "KID" means ... come on, up a notch - you still can do it, notab1e
clocksky888 [#61]I particularly mentioned - "kids, like YOU." Don't tell me you don't know what term "KID" means ... come on, up a notch - you still can do it, notab1e
took you a while to deny it until now it was just getting a bit concerning
nutab1e [#62]took you a while to deny it until now it was just getting a bit concerning
ohh, come on ... no need to get thaaat serious 😘 - overheating, aren't we?
clocksky888 [#63]ohh, come on ... no need to get thaaat serious 😘 - overheating, aren't we?
are you locked back in? seemed like you couldn't take the heat there for a second 😘🍿
nutab1e [#64]are you locked back in? seemed like you couldn't take the heat there for a second 😘🍿
Still grade D - I give you 😉
nutab1e [#66]giving children D? come on we talked about this
No way, you're now viewing yourself as a child... you're going too passive here
clocksky888 [#67]No way, you're now viewing yourself as a child... you're going too passive here
I'm the future that's the way I look at it gramps
nutab1e [#68]I'm the future that's the way I look at it gramps
Well, If you disclose the date you created your HLTV profile, I'll reveal your past, not to mention the future ahead... legit stuff
clocksky888 [#69]Well, If you disclose the date you created your HLTV profile, I'll reveal your past, not to mention the future ahead... legit stuff
you think I use hltv? I'm dead you're actually a walking fossil
nutab1e [#70]you think I use hltv? I'm dead you're actually a walking fossil
I only asked the DATE you created account there ...
clocksky888 [#71]I only asked the DATE you created account there ...
you can't see that yourself if you looked me up there?
nutab1e [#72]you can't see that yourself if you looked me up there?
It'll be of no harm if you just disclose it right here ... still passive, aren't you?
clocksky888 [#73]It'll be of no harm if you just disclose it right here ... still passive, aren't you?
You like the passive child type blame yourself & I don't have an hltv account
nutab1e [#74]You like the passive child type blame yourself & I don't have an hltv account
Ok ok, sorry for pressuring you too hard ... still grade D though ... still notab1e to up a notch or two ... though avoid strong terms like the one you brought up erlier... our therapy is over ... Get Good Noob 😘
clocksky888 [#75]Ok ok, sorry for pressuring you too hard ... still grade D though ... still notab1e to up a notch or two ... though avoid strong terms like the one you brought up erlier... our therapy is over ... Get Good Noob 😘
Trying to coerce me there was weird but I would say this was ez
nutab1e [#76]Trying to coerce me there was weird but I would say this was ez
No, I just taught you a wee lesson on how to close convos by using earlier references... read my #51 and the #75 as your homework ... you can tell me on our next session.
clocksky888 [#77]No, I just taught you a wee lesson on how to close convos by using earlier references... read my #51 and the #75 as your homework ... you can tell me on our next session.
you can sleep easy knowing this was a masterclass in closing convos
nutab1e [#78]you can sleep easy knowing this was a masterclass in closing convos
you guys are so cute
nutab1e [#78]you can sleep easy knowing this was a masterclass in closing convos
No, it has nothing to do with easy sleeping ... That's just how I would normally close - nothing else but a habit.
clocksky888 [#80]No, it has nothing to do with easy sleeping ... That's just how I would normally close - nothing else but a habit.
I usually close by saying
if you say "That's an HLTV BS closer ... btw that's how I know you're from there 😉" then you diddle kids
nutab1e [#81]I usually close by saying
if you say "That's an HLTV BS closer ... btw that's how I know you're from there 😉" then you diddle kids
That's an HLTV BS closer ... btw that's how I know you're from there 😉
clocksky888 [#13]There's a study available online regarding reflexes and other factors in pro-gaming... peak performance, particularly in terms of reflexes, for index/middle fingers is around 39 years of age or so. This age represents the peak, rather than a stage of decline. So in this regard Ange1 is fine.
i couldn't find your study but I did find one that says reflexes and reaction times are on a steady decline at ages 24 +
Psion [#83]i couldn't find your study but I did find one that says reflexes and reaction times are on a steady decline at ages 24 +
Ohh boi 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
"Maximum FTS shows a lifespan trajectory reaching a peak around the age of 40 years." - Gervan P, Berencsi A, Kovacs I (2011)... FTS stands for finger-tapping speed. See Figure 3A on page 6 for results across all four studies (Current... Bartzokis, 2009... Dorfberger, 2008... and Denckla, 1973) in the paper below, if you're interested but I f-ing doubt that because parroting someone's ancient BS is still going strong amongst braindead kids.
Now sit. A FAT C grade for your failed homework - took me 2 minutes to find.
P.S. I mentioned pro-gamers study earlier on LOL etc as they referenced the above study/s.
kfan4238173 [#79]you guys are so cute
yeah like wtf is this lmao. they are both so childish for this thread
clocksky888 [#85]Ohh boi 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
"Maximum FTS shows a lifespan trajectory reaching a peak around the age of 40 years." - Gervan P, Berencsi A, Kovacs I (2011)... FTS stands for finger-tapping speed. See Figure 3A on page 6 for results across all four studies (Current... Bartzokis, 2009... Dorfberger, 2008... and Denckla, 1973) in the paper below, if you're interested but I f-ing doubt that because parroting someone's ancient BS is still going strong amongst braindead kids.
Now sit. A FAT C grade for your failed homework - took me 2 minutes to find.
P.S. I mentioned pro-gamers study earlier on LOL etc as they referenced the above study/s.
there is more to reflexes than finger tapping speed lmfao
Psion [#87]there is more to reflexes than finger tapping speed lmfao
A FAT C
Now, SIT - braindead
Edit: "A FAT C" signifies a Grade C, with the emphasis on "FAT" which is somewhat exaggerated expression but is given for a level of some effort... as well as mentioned in my prior post regarding still grading @psion a grade of C.
clocksky888 [#88]A FAT C
Now, SIT - braindead
Edit: "A FAT C" signifies a Grade C, with the emphasis on "FAT" which is somewhat exaggerated expression but is given for a level of some effort... as well as mentioned in my prior post regarding still grading @psion a grade of C.
you talk about adulthood responsibilities a lot but you sure act like a child
Psion [#89]you talk about adulthood responsibilities a lot but you sure act like a child
CRY me a river...
You better go study shit you have no idea about, and then open your mouth ... reflexes , responsibilities are too big of words for you, kiddo.
BUZZ off
clocksky888 [#90]CRY me a river...
You better go study shit you have no idea about, and then open your mouth ... reflexes , responsibilities are too big of words for you, kiddo.
BUZZ off
ok, i'll do everything you say Mr. Superiority complex
Psion [#91]ok, i'll do everything you say Mr. Superiority complex
Hey, no need to get all salty here from the way I decided to convers with you. Just take it and move on.
Personally, I'm fed up of the negativity directed at slightly older individuals in the game/s, especially regarding their age. It's unjust and unfounded. Yet, people keep parroting someone's past BS without thinking critically about it.
Also, I did go and presented you with the papers - quite important ones on the topic ... yet, you're still unsettled, telling me that there're other important things.
Move on, kid.
Psion [#86]yeah like wtf is this lmao. they are both so childish for this thread
Cringe kid ... keep downfragging 🍿😘
clocksky888 [#92]Hey, no need to get all salty here from the way I decided to convers with you. Just take it and move on.
Personally, I'm fed up of the negativity directed at slightly older individuals in the game/s, especially regarding their age. It's unjust and unfounded. Yet, people keep parroting someone's past BS without thinking critically about it.
Also, I did go and presented you with the papers - quite important ones on the topic ... yet, you're still unsettled, telling me that there're other important things.
Move on, kid.
calling me salty after responding to "there is more to reflexes than finger tapping speed lmfao"
with:
"A FAT C
Now, SIT - braindead"
is crazy.
clocksky888 [#82]That's an HLTV BS closer ... btw that's how I know you're from there 😉
caught in 4k 📸
ez
Psion [#94]calling me salty after responding to "there is more to reflexes than finger tapping speed lmfao"
with:
"A FAT CNow, SIT - braindead"
is crazy.
🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ a finger tapping speed that was measured is actually, by it's nature connected to what you call reflexes - just a little hint to you... cough ...cough... those studies fall under group of motoric human abilities and are typically studied in neuroscience. It is all connected and dependent on speed of brain cell's communication.
Again, you touch topics that you have no clue about. You can't even find a paper ffs that is freely available online. What are you on about ...
What a thick kid - you are... holy
clocksky888 [#96]🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ a finger tapping speed that was measured is actually, by it's nature connected to what you call reflexes - just a little hint to you... cough ...cough... those studies fall under group of motoric human abilities and are typically studied in neuroscience. It is all connected and dependent on speed of brain cell's communication.
Again, you touch topics that you have no clue about. You can't even find a paper ffs that is freely available online. What are you on about ...
What a thick kid - you are... holy
🧂🧂
nutab1e [#102]🧂🧂
hey, I up-fragged your post on reporting me... so no need to be salty anymore, mon cheri 😘
clocksky888 [#103]hey, I up-fragged your post on reporting me... so no need to be salty anymore, mon cheri 😘
I didn't report you?
clocksky888 [#105]did you?
I don't even know what you're talking about, dementia must be coming on early
nutab1e [#106]I don't even know what you're talking about, dementia must be coming on early
I see what you did there
Edited: Added the part in bold
clocksky888 [#108]"smart" 🤓
just like how I saw through your addiction to boomers with 300ms reaction time and shit games like counterstr0ke
you're starting to learn that I'm simply smarter than you
nutab1e [#109]just like how I saw through your addiction to boomers with 300ms reaction time and shit games like counterstr0ke
you're starting to learn that I'm simply smarter than you
No, I was commenting on your nearly flawless attempt at baiting ... if only you had edited the response before it displayed the 'edited' notification below. Still good bait attempt, nevertheless.
clocksky888 [#110]No, I was commenting on your nearly flawless attempt at baiting ... if only you had edited the response before it displayed the 'edited' notification below. Still good bait attempt, nevertheless.
it worked cuz you're back now upvote my last post again pls 🧂ggez😂
nutab1e [#111]it worked cuz you're back now upvote my last post again pls 🧂ggez😂
hey, but it is no fair you and me upvote your post again... +2 - not too shabby
clocksky888 [#113]hey, but it is no fair you and me upvote your post again... +2 - not too shabby
ok fine... now I'll upvote myself 😈
nutab1e [#114]ok fine... now I'll upvote myself 😈
ohh, I get it ... @psion up-fragged you earlier ... apologies then... now you're on +3 - even better
clocksky888 [#115]ohh, I get it ... @psion up-fragged you earlier ... apologies then... now you're on +3 - even better
you're always one step behind
nutab1e [#116]you're always one step behind
There's no harm in admitting it either – it can only improve you in the long term as it forces you to think. Unfortunately, it's something that some users overlook, as after an argument, they resort to downvoting all of my posts, regardless of their relevance to the discussion/s. I'm referring to the specific person with whom I had a conversation earlier today.
clocksky888 [#117]There's no harm in admitting it either – it can only improve you in the long term as it forces you to think. Unfortunately, it's something that some users overlook, as after an argument, they resort to downvoting all of my posts, regardless of their relevance to the discussion/s. I'm referring to the specific person with whom I had a conversation earlier today.
sounds like that person is rent free
nutab1e [#118]sounds like that person is rent free
He's just a little mad that's all... he ain't the first on here one to cringe this way, though.
clocksky888 [#119]He's just a little mad that's all... he ain't the first on here one to cringe this way, though.
sounds like he handled his emotions better than you considering you're turning this into a therapy session to vent to me about it 😂 idc lil bro
nutab1e [#120]sounds like he handled his emotions better than you considering you're turning this into a therapy session to vent to me about it 😂 idc lil bro
Given the harsh topic that is constantly being brought up on here, and his opinion on that matter... I gently assisted him in handling himself, offering just a nudge from my end—nothing unusual for me😘
You, though, still need to work on your come backs ... notab1e, still notab1e
clocksky888 [#122]Given the harsh topic that is constantly being brought up on here, and his opinion on that matter... I gently assisted him in handling himself, offering just a nudge from my end—nothing unusual for me😘
You, though, still need to work on your come backs ... notab1e, still notab1e
talking to me about comebacks while it took you 2 hours to come up with that drivel is, something
nutab1e [#123]talking to me about comebacks while it took you 2 hours to come up with that drivel is, something
It is, given some responsibilities I must fulfil first... too demanding today or what?
clocksky888 [#124]It is, given some responsibilities I must fulfil first... too demanding today or what?
you can't handle passive or demanding you seem to be out of your depth
nutab1e [#125]you can't handle passive or demanding you seem to be out of your depth
I am the depth, therefore your argument is invalid... 🍿
clocksky888 [#126]I am the depth, therefore your argument is invalid... 🍿
bro thinks depth = having terrible reaction time
nutab1e [#127]bro thinks depth = having terrible reaction time
Well, you thought you got me ... below is my reaction time throughout 200 attempts or so:
https://i.imgur.com/5ZJuuaB.png
Mind sharing yours? So we could further elaborate on "terrible reaction time" topic.
clocksky888 [#128]Well, you thought you got me ... below is my reaction time throughout 200 attempts or so:
https://i.imgur.com/5ZJuuaB.png
Mind sharing yours? So we could further elaborate on "terrible reaction time" topic.
wait run it 10 more times I larger dataset for reliability
nutab1e [#129]wait run it 10 more times I larger dataset for reliability
What am I... a public laundry to run it x more times lol.... A sample of 200 times is way way more than enough, and 158 ms is as tight as it could be ... given, I've been doing that while testing different mice.
Now it's your chance to execute it around 200 times and demonstrate to me, whether you can substantiate your claims or if they're entirely baseless.
inb4: Your claims are entirely baseless.
clocksky888 [#130]What am I... a public laundry to run it x more times lol.... A sample of 200 times is way way more than enough, and 158 ms is as tight as it could be ... given, I've been doing that while testing different mice.
Now it's your chance to execute it around 200 times and demonstrate to me, whether you can substantiate your claims or if they're entirely baseless.
inb4: Your claims are entirely baseless.
Think for a moment about how I made you run a reaction test 200 times...
And then think about how none of this changes the fact that steel is washed...
And now cry. ez.
nutab1e [#131]Think for a moment about how I made you run a reaction test 200 times...
And then think about how none of this changes the fact that steel is washed...
And now cry. ez.
No, it wasn't because of you but it's just typical of me to support my claims 😘 you still notab1e...
Ok, Steel, with all due respect, has nothing to do with anything in this thread, so he could be left out of it 😉
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