Can you make a top 4 team in NA

Can you make a top 4 team in NA using unsigned or t2 players that is good enough to be top 4 in NA.

I will give you c9 as your starting roster

Kick or keep a team good enough to rival Loud, Sen, NRG, LEV

EDIT: should have said AMRICAS

would be more fun without s0m and fenis being available

cartixuzi [#2]

would be more fun without s0m and fenis being available

Even with them can you make a team that beats those 4?

i think u can maybe with s0m fenis verno reduxx and maybe someone with nismo but even thats not enough bc the top 4 teams in americas r that good. this team still doesnt beat sen, loud, nrg , or lev.

LouBag [#3]

Even with them can you make a team that beats those 4?

moshi stole my team, but even then its literally impossible to compare them to tier 1 teams since 3/5 of the players have never touched tier 1 and then there's team chemistry and whatnot.

moshimoshiman24 [#4]

i think u can maybe with s0m fenis verno reduxx and maybe someone with nismo but even thats not enough bc the top 4 teams in americas r that good. this team still doesnt beat sen, loud, nrg , or lev.

Thats why big orgs are not willing to waste the money.

if you cant be top 4 then it isnt worth the price of admission.

LouBag [#6]

Thats why big orgs are not willing to waste the money.

if you cant be top 4 then it isnt worth the price of admission.

i mean u aint wrong. in lcs immortals r always last having a dog team but they always make profit. it depends wat orgs want as well bc im pretty sure riot pays orgs to b in vct unlike in league where teams pay to b in the league. but i think na orgs r investing the most in valorant bc eu orgs invest in cs. the korean orgs r investing in league outside of drx.

Keep oxy and xeppaa

Kick vanity. Replace with Mitch

Kick wippie: Replace with dapr

Kick jakee: Replace with Skuba

0fcuZ [#8]

Keep oxy and xeppaa

Kick vanity. Replace with Mitch

Kick wippie: Replace with dapr

Kick jakee: Replace with Skuba

Just do everyone other than Reduxx atp. Mitch and Verno is a far better flex/init duo than xeppa and mitch

0fcuZ [#8]

Keep oxy and xeppaa

Kick vanity. Replace with Mitch

Kick wippie: Replace with dapr

Kick jakee: Replace with Skuba

verno clears shitppa, at that point just poach the whole oxg roster, redux gonna be next up anyways

FA only
Oxy duelist
FNS Senti/Igl
S0m contoller
Dazzle intitator
Kanpeki flex

If we can Poach players

Oxy
FNS
S0m
Verno
Mitch

Firepower might be mid but incredibly smart team with insane util, flexibility and potential in their roles

I don't think either roster will be top 4 for sure both have the potential to be better than LEV. The second one can be competitive with SEN and Loud if they have enough time and the right coaching staff/system

give my premier team a spot in franchise and we clear everyone

My pick would be

Oxy
Xeppa
Verno (if he was old enough)
Som
FNS

And even then I don’t know if they are top 4.

That’s why I don’t really care who c9 pick up for wippie.

The talent isn’t there to compete for top 4 so it doesn’t really matter.

import: nivera
FNS
S0m
Oxy
verno