Agents that need buffs

Agents that need buffs:

IMO I think phoenix is the worst duelist without taking yoru into a count I honestly think that phoenix does many things but doesn't actually master anything I understand that he's a jack of all traits but with the introduction of kay/o flashes and skye buffs i think the use of phoenix is merely useless, I feel like some buffs he should get should be the increase to the amount of healing he can get, and prolly longer flashes. Lol might be a bit bias since I'm a phoenix main but tell me what you guys think.

Brimstone- I feel like they should just rework and change his stim beacon into something totally different such as something like a raze grenade but a little different, tell me what u guys think.

Yoru- I feel like he's teleport ability should be instant so he could compete with the awping position with jett, and that his fakeout ability should be reworked to clones like mirage from apex legends or somethin that actually seem realistic and shoot at u but do as much as a kj turret, let me know u guys' opinions.

Lol tell me what u guys think would like to hear your opinions of these.

i think his fakeout should kinda be like a decoy grenade from csgo where it would walk and make shooting noises every now and then. The teleport and flash equip times should also be faster so that it feels smother to play

Number1_poiz_jettgod_fan [#2]

i think his fakeout should kinda be like a decoy grenade from csgo where it would walk and make shooting noises every now and then. The teleport and flash equip times should also be faster so that it feels smother to play

Yeah I agree I feel like that would be an excellent ability to add and would be useful in even high elo

also Yoru's tp noice should be lower still. You can literally hear a yoru tp halfway across the map

Brimstones beacon fundamentally sucks and basically can never be put into meta unless riot completely swaps out that ability for something brand new. Unless the stim beacon can somehow maintain accuracy while shooting, but even then, that poses other problems.

Phoenix is average at every map. I don't think his flash duration needs to be increased because his and kayo/skye's flashes serve different purposes. Kayo or Skye's flashes are more so team flashes whereas phoenix's flashes are for himself to get a kill since he's a duelist. I think his biggest asset is his ulti , it's only 6 points so he essentially gets a get out of jail free card every 3 or so rounds. So I don't think so he needs a buff rn.

Brim definitely needs a buff , reworking the stim beacon is very necessary as it servers little to no purpose and has very limited usage areas

Yoru definitely needs a huge huge buff. Make his teleport faster and the decoy and actual clone of himself rather than just footsteps. But I also think it shouldn't be able to damage you. It can just shoot but it causes no damage.
I also think Cypher needs another buff. Buff his ulti in a way instead of just pinging the enemies once , it attaches a camera dart to each of the opponents bodies which they are then either forced to fight while being constantly pinged or actually take time to remove it. It might seem little unbalanced for close fights so it can be balanced with increasing the ult points required by one and also increasing the time between using the ult and the enemies being pinged.

-skye able to heal herself + team
-sage 2 walls per round
-phoenix longer wall
-killjoy ult 10 seconds to load
-cypher ult instant upload

yoru,s tp needs to lower the sound honestly it sucks that they can camp ur tp

yoru's tp should be used like an omen ult imo. It'll let him tp wherever he wants and he's identity is supposed to be stealthy and sneaky.

kiro159 [#9]

yoru's tp should be used like an omen ult imo. It'll let him tp wherever he wants and he's identity is supposed to be stealthy and sneaky.

bro what thats making an ability that is free and recharges every 35 secs the same as an ult??????

I think nerfing Jett should be a priority.
Although I don't think they will do it

yoru - replace the footsteps
brim - replace the stim with trophy system

pheonix is perfectly fine tbh, his ult is one of the most powerful and yet it requires only 6 ult points so its even op currently.

hellaeleganceyeah [#12]

yoru - replace the footsteps
brim - replace the stim with trophy system

pheonix is perfectly fine tbh, his ult is one of the most powerful and yet it requires only 6 ult points so its even op currently.

yeah phoniex is lowkey op

I dont think his tp should be instant like jett since she can only go a certain distance but he could be across the map

I'd like to see Cypher's trips get a slightly extended range, for example on B split there's only a small area that you can put it down in front of the pillar before enemies get to the spam-able box, now everyone just shoots that area before going in. Extended range would open up a lot of new set-ups.

The Phoenix flash could be a little faster, really easy to look away from it.

Maybe Brimstone stim could give a slow health regeneration like 50% slower than a Sage heal or something..

MioIsTheProblem [#15]

I'd like to see Cypher's trips get a slightly extended range, for example on B split there's only a small area that you can put it down in front of the pillar before enemies get to the spam-able box, now everyone just shoots that area before going in. Extended range would open up a lot of new set-ups.

The Phoenix flash could be a little faster, really easy to look away from it.

Maybe Brimstone stim could give a slow health regeneration like 50% slower than a Sage heal or something..

cypher's trip good idea

phoenix dont know

brim change the stim beacon

finicon920 [#11]

I think nerfing Jett should be a priority.
Although I don't think they will do it

They shouldnt she is insanenly fun to watch, i mean they prbably should but i hope they dont. Maybe judt make it so you have to pay 300 for dash

PrTsty [#17]

They shouldnt she is insanenly fun to watch, i mean they prbably should but i hope they dont. Maybe judt make it so you have to pay 300 for dash

But thats her special ability. It wouldn't be fair if she would be the only agent that needs to pay for that.

yana-banana [#18]

But thats her special ability. It wouldn't be fair if she would be the only agent that needs to pay for that.

Smoke agents? Skye?

PrTsty [#19]

Smoke agents? Skye?

They get one smoke/flash for free tho

reading this topic made me understand to many iron players here ...

In terms of professional play phoenix needs a buff. His kit is okay, the problem is that kay/o and skye are better picks because they are self sufficient like phoenix but also provide much more valuable info. Not sure what to change abt him tho

Kilobyte [#6]

Phoenix is average at every map. I don't think his flash duration needs to be increased because his and kayo/skye's flashes serve different purposes. Kayo or Skye's flashes are more so team flashes whereas phoenix's flashes are for himself to get a kill since he's a duelist. I think his biggest asset is his ulti , it's only 6 points so he essentially gets a get out of jail free card every 3 or so rounds. So I don't think so he needs a buff rn.

Brim definitely needs a buff , reworking the stim beacon is very necessary as it servers little to no purpose and has very limited usage areas

Yoru definitely needs a huge huge buff. Make his teleport faster and the decoy and actual clone of himself rather than just footsteps. But I also think it shouldn't be able to damage you. It can just shoot but it causes no damage.
I also think Cypher needs another buff. Buff his ulti in a way instead of just pinging the enemies once , it attaches a camera dart to each of the opponents bodies which they are then either forced to fight while being constantly pinged or actually take time to remove it. It might seem little unbalanced for close fights so it can be balanced with increasing the ult points required by one and also increasing the time between using the ult and the enemies being pinged.

agreed with phix korean flashes on maps like split phix is a really good pick

raka_gg [#7]

-skye able to heal herself + team
-sage 2 walls per round
-phoenix longer wall
-killjoy ult 10 seconds to load
-cypher ult instant upload

do you want to game end yourself with this post

PrTsty [#19]

Smoke agents? Skye?

Everyone has one free ability at least.

Jack of all trades*

yana-banana [#18]

But thats her special ability. It wouldn't be fair if she would be the only agent that needs to pay for that.

Why would it not be fair. Its about balanving. It doesnt matter how u do it

Darkslayer [#22]

In terms of professional play phoenix needs a buff. His kit is okay, the problem is that kay/o and skye are better picks because they are self sufficient like phoenix but also provide much more valuable info. Not sure what to change abt him tho

2 walls

You all are saying brimstones stim is bad cause it makes you inaccurate but thats just wrong. I think brim stim could be one of the best pieces of utility in the game if it was buffed slightly (double the radius, slow minimal healing effect, you can give your bullets "tracking darts" like cypher camera, there is alot of things they can do, but half of them would be ridiculously op). But brim stim is already really good. It doesn't make you inaccurate, it makes you shoot faster so you should 100% win the duel. Do your normal spray control, and you kill them faster than they kill you as long as you dont get 1 tapped. If you tap fire, you shoot 5 bullets with each of your taps when they shoot 3. So yif you take a long duel and you both tap fire 3 times, you get 15 bullets and they get 9. Who is more likely to win? You, since you shot way more bullets. Throw the stim down right as you are entrying site, then your duelist can get first kill way easier and likely live without having to trade out. Then everyone else can also win their duels 10x easier. Its literally like if the vandal/phantom is buffed so that only your team gets increased fire speed, from 10 bullets per second to like 15 per second. brim stim is broken, esp in lower ranks. Pro play not so much since 90% of their kills are 1 taps but it still makes a huge difference

Zaynio [#5]

Brimstones beacon fundamentally sucks and basically can never be put into meta unless riot completely swaps out that ability for something brand new. Unless the stim beacon can somehow maintain accuracy while shooting, but even then, that poses other problems.

Deadass, that thing fucks me up more than it helps

They shoıld remove brim’s stim and add a counter to mollys

thanatos11 [#30]

Deadass, that thing fucks me up more than it helps

I call it one of brimstones "good traits." Its one less ability I need to buy lol. But yeah, the ability sucks.

Kilobyte [#6]

Phoenix is average at every map. I don't think his flash duration needs to be increased because his and kayo/skye's flashes serve different purposes. Kayo or Skye's flashes are more so team flashes whereas phoenix's flashes are for himself to get a kill since he's a duelist. I think his biggest asset is his ulti , it's only 6 points so he essentially gets a get out of jail free card every 3 or so rounds. So I don't think so he needs a buff rn.

Brim definitely needs a buff , reworking the stim beacon is very necessary as it servers little to no purpose and has very limited usage areas

Yoru definitely needs a huge huge buff. Make his teleport faster and the decoy and actual clone of himself rather than just footsteps. But I also think it shouldn't be able to damage you. It can just shoot but it causes no damage.
I also think Cypher needs another buff. Buff his ulti in a way instead of just pinging the enemies once , it attaches a camera dart to each of the opponents bodies which they are then either forced to fight while being constantly pinged or actually take time to remove it. It might seem little unbalanced for close fights so it can be balanced with increasing the ult points required by one and also increasing the time between using the ult and the enemies being pinged.

I think why people don't like his flashes is basically because people play KAY/O and Skye as duelists (I do myself), and they provide a lot more impact on the game than Phoenix does. He's OK, but def increase his healing or something cuz he has to use both his abilities to get to 100 where Reyna uses a suck to get to 150.

PrTsty [#27]

Why would it not be fair. Its about balanving. It doesnt matter how u do it

Every agent has a free ability so if u take away jetts then she will never be played pretty much

imagine a jett buff where you can reload the dash with one kill, so crazy.

PersonHere [#34]

Every agent has a free ability so if u take away jetts then she will never be played pretty much

Make her updraft free and her dash cost.

Make brims stim work on casting animations.

Faster reload, faster weapon switch, faster grenade throws, etc etc

PersonHere [#34]

Every agent has a free ability so if u take away jetts then she will never be played pretty much

Bro its bout balancing. If its balanced it will be played. I dont think they will put a price tag anyways. Maybe make the dash less far with oo in hand dunno. Rito is gonna come up with an aidea