Well EMEA is 1 team region for him too.
In Americas we have at least 3 tier S team
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cohnr [#2]3 great teams, then 100t and EG looked good, the rest 💀
100t, sen, lev, nrg, and loud are all above TH (A tier EMEA)
tsmsobadholy [#4]what are the 3 S tier teams?
we don't have 3 S tier teams but we have 5 teams better than Heretics imo(NRG and LOUD are the only S tier ones)
tsmsobadholy [#4]what are the 3 S tier teams?
they're trolling
we only have two in LOUD and NRG
I don't see any other team in S tier
Cacachocolat [#9]Nahhhh you can't be serious
i can be serious, it is all on eye test and opinionated lol. SEN and LOUD are both top 3 americas and LEV and 100T played both of those teams very close.
also notice how i didn't say Navi, i think navi are better than Lev and 100T
Psion [#6]100t, sen, lev, nrg, and loud are all above TH (A tier EMEA)
100t play jail valorant rn, they can barely beat KOI
cohnr [#15]100t play jail valorant rn, they can barely beat KOI
ok wtf is this lmao KOI lost a series 2-0 to Liquid
Psion [#17]ok wtf is this lmao KOI lost a series 2-0 to Liquid
100t have potential but they play jail valorant rn, any prepared team would fuck them up
cohnr [#18]100t have potential but they play jail valorant rn, any prepared team would fuck them up
ok lets say thats true, when the fuck have koi been prepared for anything they've looked very messy and they PICKED sunset, one of vitality's best maps, into them. KOI are the opposite of prepared
Psion [#20]ok lets say thats true, when the fuck have koi been prepared for anything they've looked very messy and they PICKED sunset, one of vitality's best maps, into them. KOI are the opposite of prepared
you do realise i say they beat KOI right?
cohnr [#21]you do realise i say they beat KOI right?
yes, but its still an awful floor lol. if koi can almost beat 100t they must have some level of preparedness according to you
Psion [#22]yes, but its still an awful floor lol. if koi can almost beat 100t they must have some level of preparedness according to you
imo KC would beat 100t pretty easily purely based on engh being able to prepare for them, any team with a good coach is the same as well
cohnr [#23]imo KC would beat 100t pretty easily purely based on engh being able to prepare for them, any team with a good coach is the same as well
you underestimate Ziks, mikes, and boostio if you think that they won't change shit in this theoretical world where engh's focus is entirely on preparing for 100T
Psion [#24]you underestimate Ziks, mikes, and boostio if you think that they won't change shit in this theoretical world where engh's focus is entirely on preparing for 100T
I would understand much more if you were arguing for EG, 100t just looked dodgy
cohnr [#25]I would understand much more if you were arguing for EG, 100t just looked dodgy
they looked like a team that had 4.5 less months to prepare than their competition, obviously SEN and LEV will make them look shaky given how tenured those teams are. They'd(sen and lev) make KC, eg and even heretics look that way too(and yes i know g2 has existed for forever but their strats at this point are more recycled than disney's content nowadays
Psion [#14]i can be serious, it is all on eye test and opinionated lol. SEN and LOUD are both top 3 americas and LEV and 100T played both of those teams very close.
also notice how i didn't say Navi, i think navi are better than Lev and 100T
Gotta disagree. By the eye test 100t, LEV and even NRG were making too many mistakes for me to confidently put them above TH, KC, NAVI, they are at best around the same currently and need more time. I would even wager FUT and VIT would post close games with those top 4 americas teams. I wouldn't say the top 10 teams are that different mechanically, it's about making fewer mistakes and punishing mistakes.
bruhahaha [#28]Gotta disagree. By the eye test 100t, LEV and even NRG were making too many mistakes for me to confidently put them above TH, KC, NAVI, they are at best around the same currently and need more time. I would even wager FUT and VIT would post close games with those top 4 americas teams. I wouldn't say the top 10 teams are that different mechanically, it's about making fewer mistakes and punishing mistakes.
i saw plenty of mistakes out of KC, TH, FUT, VIT too but more of them are micro mistakes while the teams you listed were making more macro mistakes
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