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#1
Shadow_Monarch

No team can reach or win finals without having a top tier duelist.

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ionlyHave1Zuni
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shit fpx did

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Tooker
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I would argue that FPX didn't have a star duelist, and was more Suygetsu and Shao than Ardiis.

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I mean let's go through all the teams that won international tournaments then.

SEN Reykjavík - Obviously TenZ was insane and had a shit ton of impact

GMB Berlin - D3ffo was pretty insane in Berlin, but nAts and Chron had a lot more impact. nAts even had a higher ACS while playing Viper and Cypher.

ACE Berlin - cNed and friends (although zeek had a pretty insane run that tournament -- notably he did play a lot of duelist as well though, both Reyna and Raze)

OPTC Reykjavík - yay was clearly their star player, and he barely played duelist. Victor was a good duelist, but he's not the type of guy you'd have in your top 5

FPX Copenhagen - mostly carried by Shao and Suygetsu. In the grand final, Zyppan was bottom fragging on Raze for two maps, they played no duelist on Icebox, and the last two maps were Zyppan on Raze and ardiis on Jett respectively, none of which had super insane impact (they both performed well though)

Loud Istanbul - While aspas is without a doubt one of the greatest, if not the greatest, duelist in this game, at that particular tournament, he had the lowest average rating on the team. pANcada was the tournament MVP and each player had insane impact.

FNC LOCK//IN - Derke was very good, had loads of impact. Still outperformed by Leo though

FNC Tokyo - Kind of similar to Loud at Champs, where Derke was good, but Leo, Alfa and Chron were just all better.

EG Champs - I mean the three maps they won in the GF were definitely on the back of insane duelist performances. Jawgemo went ballistic, and Demon1 had an insane Split on Jett. LF was pretty similar with the exception of Bind. The rest of the matches weren't really close and they just hard team diffed everyone else, so overall I'd say it's fair to say that great duelist performances were a big part of their actual win.

So out of the 9 teams that won tournaments, 3 (SEN at Reykjavík, ACE at Champs 21, and EG at Champs 23) were in large part due to great duelist performances, the rest had much higher impact from other parts of the team.

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Xabrusca
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ionlyHave1Zuni [#2]

shit fpx did

Chamber meta

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Xabrusca
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Breloof [#4]

I mean let's go through all the teams that won international tournaments then.

SEN Reykjavík - Obviously TenZ was insane and had a shit ton of impact

GMB Berlin - D3ffo was pretty insane in Berlin, but nAts and Chron had a lot more impact. nAts even had a higher ACS while playing Viper and Cypher.

ACE Berlin - cNed and friends (although zeek had a pretty insane run that tournament -- notably he did play a lot of duelist as well though, both Reyna and Raze)

OPTC Reykjavík - yay was clearly their star player, and he barely played duelist. Victor was a good duelist, but he's not the type of guy you'd have in your top 5

FPX Copenhagen - mostly carried by Shao and Suygetsu. In the grand final, Zyppan was bottom fragging on Raze for two maps, they played no duelist on Icebox, and the last two maps were Zyppan on Raze and ardiis on Jett respectively, none of which had super insane impact (they both performed well though)

Loud Istanbul - While aspas is without a doubt one of the greatest, if not the greatest, duelist in this game, at that particular tournament, he had the lowest average rating on the team. pANcada was the tournament MVP and each player had insane impact.

FNC LOCK//IN - Derke was very good, had loads of impact. Still outperformed by Leo though

FNC Tokyo - Kind of similar to Loud at Champs, where Derke was good, but Leo, Alfa and Chron were just all better.

EG Champs - I mean the three maps they won in the GF were definitely on the back of insane duelist performances. Jawgemo went ballistic, and Demon1 had an insane Split on Jett. LF was pretty similar with the exception of Bind. The rest of the matches weren't really close and they just hard team diffed everyone else, so overall I'd say it's fair to say that great duelist performances were a big part of their actual win.

So out of the 9 teams that won tournaments, 3 (SEN at Reykjavík, ACE at Champs 21, and EG at Champs 23) were in large part due to great duelist performances, the rest had much higher impact from other parts of the team.

wrong

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Breloof
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Xabrusca [#6]

wrong

unlucky

#8
geospliced
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Breloof [#4]

I mean let's go through all the teams that won international tournaments then.

SEN Reykjavík - Obviously TenZ was insane and had a shit ton of impact

GMB Berlin - D3ffo was pretty insane in Berlin, but nAts and Chron had a lot more impact. nAts even had a higher ACS while playing Viper and Cypher.

ACE Berlin - cNed and friends (although zeek had a pretty insane run that tournament -- notably he did play a lot of duelist as well though, both Reyna and Raze)

OPTC Reykjavík - yay was clearly their star player, and he barely played duelist. Victor was a good duelist, but he's not the type of guy you'd have in your top 5

FPX Copenhagen - mostly carried by Shao and Suygetsu. In the grand final, Zyppan was bottom fragging on Raze for two maps, they played no duelist on Icebox, and the last two maps were Zyppan on Raze and ardiis on Jett respectively, none of which had super insane impact (they both performed well though)

Loud Istanbul - While aspas is without a doubt one of the greatest, if not the greatest, duelist in this game, at that particular tournament, he had the lowest average rating on the team. pANcada was the tournament MVP and each player had insane impact.

FNC LOCK//IN - Derke was very good, had loads of impact. Still outperformed by Leo though

FNC Tokyo - Kind of similar to Loud at Champs, where Derke was good, but Leo, Alfa and Chron were just all better.

EG Champs - I mean the three maps they won in the GF were definitely on the back of insane duelist performances. Jawgemo went ballistic, and Demon1 had an insane Split on Jett. LF was pretty similar with the exception of Bind. The rest of the matches weren't really close and they just hard team diffed everyone else, so overall I'd say it's fair to say that great duelist performances were a big part of their actual win.

So out of the 9 teams that won tournaments, 3 (SEN at Reykjavík, ACE at Champs 21, and EG at Champs 23) were in large part due to great duelist performances, the rest had much higher impact from other parts of the team.

Good job Breloof. I think your comment is very insightful. Good job!

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Xabrusca [#6]

wrong

you just destroyed him with facts and logic mate
breloof, time to log off, your carrer is done

#10
Breloof
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Sk00d [#9]

you just destroyed him with facts and logic mate
breloof, time to log off, your carrer is done

can't even argue with this

#11
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geospliced [#8]

Good job Breloof. I think your comment is very insightful. Good job!

Thank you, geo!

#12
geospliced
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Breloof [#11]

Thank you, geo!

Keep up the good work 👍

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deadpark
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Breloof [#4]

I mean let's go through all the teams that won international tournaments then.

SEN Reykjavík - Obviously TenZ was insane and had a shit ton of impact

GMB Berlin - D3ffo was pretty insane in Berlin, but nAts and Chron had a lot more impact. nAts even had a higher ACS while playing Viper and Cypher.

ACE Berlin - cNed and friends (although zeek had a pretty insane run that tournament -- notably he did play a lot of duelist as well though, both Reyna and Raze)

OPTC Reykjavík - yay was clearly their star player, and he barely played duelist. Victor was a good duelist, but he's not the type of guy you'd have in your top 5

FPX Copenhagen - mostly carried by Shao and Suygetsu. In the grand final, Zyppan was bottom fragging on Raze for two maps, they played no duelist on Icebox, and the last two maps were Zyppan on Raze and ardiis on Jett respectively, none of which had super insane impact (they both performed well though)

Loud Istanbul - While aspas is without a doubt one of the greatest, if not the greatest, duelist in this game, at that particular tournament, he had the lowest average rating on the team. pANcada was the tournament MVP and each player had insane impact.

FNC LOCK//IN - Derke was very good, had loads of impact. Still outperformed by Leo though

FNC Tokyo - Kind of similar to Loud at Champs, where Derke was good, but Leo, Alfa and Chron were just all better.

EG Champs - I mean the three maps they won in the GF were definitely on the back of insane duelist performances. Jawgemo went ballistic, and Demon1 had an insane Split on Jett. LF was pretty similar with the exception of Bind. The rest of the matches weren't really close and they just hard team diffed everyone else, so overall I'd say it's fair to say that great duelist performances were a big part of their actual win.

So out of the 9 teams that won tournaments, 3 (SEN at Reykjavík, ACE at Champs 21, and EG at Champs 23) were in large part due to great duelist performances, the rest had much higher impact from other parts of the team.

W

#14
Asuna_Yuuki
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ionlyHave1Zuni [#2]

shit fpx did

Ardiis was the 2nd best chamber at the time

A more appropriate comparison would be Gambit with Deffo

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Asuna_Yuuki
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Breloof [#4]

I mean let's go through all the teams that won international tournaments then.

SEN Reykjavík - Obviously TenZ was insane and had a shit ton of impact

GMB Berlin - D3ffo was pretty insane in Berlin, but nAts and Chron had a lot more impact. nAts even had a higher ACS while playing Viper and Cypher.

ACE Berlin - cNed and friends (although zeek had a pretty insane run that tournament -- notably he did play a lot of duelist as well though, both Reyna and Raze)

OPTC Reykjavík - yay was clearly their star player, and he barely played duelist. Victor was a good duelist, but he's not the type of guy you'd have in your top 5

FPX Copenhagen - mostly carried by Shao and Suygetsu. In the grand final, Zyppan was bottom fragging on Raze for two maps, they played no duelist on Icebox, and the last two maps were Zyppan on Raze and ardiis on Jett respectively, none of which had super insane impact (they both performed well though)

Loud Istanbul - While aspas is without a doubt one of the greatest, if not the greatest, duelist in this game, at that particular tournament, he had the lowest average rating on the team. pANcada was the tournament MVP and each player had insane impact.

FNC LOCK//IN - Derke was very good, had loads of impact. Still outperformed by Leo though

FNC Tokyo - Kind of similar to Loud at Champs, where Derke was good, but Leo, Alfa and Chron were just all better.

EG Champs - I mean the three maps they won in the GF were definitely on the back of insane duelist performances. Jawgemo went ballistic, and Demon1 had an insane Split on Jett. LF was pretty similar with the exception of Bind. The rest of the matches weren't really close and they just hard team diffed everyone else, so overall I'd say it's fair to say that great duelist performances were a big part of their actual win.

So out of the 9 teams that won tournaments, 3 (SEN at Reykjavík, ACE at Champs 21, and EG at Champs 23) were in large part due to great duelist performances, the rest had much higher impact from other parts of the team.

Marved > yay at Reykjavik

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