cohnr [#7]c0m above leo is criminal
won champs and made big plays aswell + his util usage is just simply better than Leo's like have you not seen some of the set plays they run on Fracture? Leo is slightly better mechanically.
michaelisupset [#4]cauanzin > c0m. everything else good tho
nahhh Cauanzin played mid during champs was a god during Lock in and Tokyo tho. I ranked the initator roll off of KAST and who just has more impact.
envyz [#9]nahhh Cauanzin played mid during champs was a god during Lock in and Tokyo tho. I ranked the initator roll off of KAST and who just has more impact.
The only match when cauanzin played bad was vs eg in champs wtf? He literally destroyed fnatic edg tl and had huge impact against every other team
DbBested [#10]Asuna should be on this list twice...
I wish 100T actually did something last year then i'd gladly put Asuna on this list :(
Kirya [#12]The only match when cauanzin played bad was vs eg in champs wtf? He literally destroyed fnatic edg tl and had huge impact against every other team
as I said he played mid, mid as in middle of the pack during those Champs and Tokyo he was of course a top 5 initator im saying Ethan C0m and Leo just generally were better during Tokyo and Champs.
envyz [#9]nahhh Cauanzin played mid during champs was a god during Lock in and Tokyo tho. I ranked the initator roll off of KAST and who just has more impact.
4th Best Player in the Champions Playoffs, and 1st initator
https://twitter.com/willminder/status/1695657234859249696?t=Q1Ez3qZuQjZvRo5_KgLzPg&s=19
silchas [#17]Realistically who would be a better duelist?
Only one who I can think of who comes close is Aspas.
maybe Derke but he had a 201 ACS on jett during champs and played very mid on jett during champs and his Raze wasnt much better.
hunkkz [#18]4th Best Player in the Champions Playoffs, and 1st initator
https://twitter.com/willminder/status/1695657234859249696?t=Q1Ez3qZuQjZvRo5_KgLzPg&s=19
KD doesn't say everything about valorant cuz u have good kills to deaths means ur a great fragger by no means does it mean ur a good initator and by no means am I saying Cauanzin is shit you can have 32 kills on Skye but only 6 assists that means you aren't playing great initator. Cauanzin was just simply lower Leo c0m and ethan on their most played initators, even then if I do change the list i'd just remove C0m and move up Leo.
envyz [#26]KD doesn't say everything about valorant cuz u have good kills to deaths means ur a great fragger by no means does it mean ur a good initator and by no means am I saying Cauanzin is shit you can have 32 kills on Skye but only 6 assists that means you aren't playing great initator. Cauanzin was just simply lower Leo c0m and ethan on their most played initators, even then if I do change the list i'd just remove C0m and move up Leo.
He wasnt lower than them and only ethan had more assists
Also loud had hardest match ups in the tourney too
Would not put demon1 first, he's a top tier jett for sure but overall duelist? we've never seen him play raze or neon how I see the placings are 1/2 Derke or aspas either one interlooped 3. should be open to someone who has been seen doing well on the whole category of duelist like Jawgemo, Leaf, Zekken, forsaken, Victor (sorry i mostly only watch NA), Buzz, etc. I'm also open to those who played raze and jett and did well as yk, neon isn't played by a lot of teams.
envyz [#20]Ok, then i'll say this. C0m is a better Sova, C0m is the secondary initiator for his team. I'll say Leo just plays initiator more C0m in my opinion is the better player. I still think C0m has better util usage on Sova but i'll give Leo the edge on initator just cuz he plays it more than C0m.
Bruh can’t do any shit without bias.
Leo is the Sova God…
Just watch the entire year not 1 tourney
envyz [#26]KD doesn't say everything about valorant cuz u have good kills to deaths means ur a great fragger by no means does it mean ur a good initator and by no means am I saying Cauanzin is shit you can have 32 kills on Skye but only 6 assists that means you aren't playing great initator. Cauanzin was just simply lower Leo c0m and ethan on their most played initators, even then if I do change the list i'd just remove C0m and move up Leo.
KD doesn't say everything
Brother that list didn't even mention KD
911dot [#33]Bruh can’t do any shit without bias.
Leo is the Sova God…
Just watch the entire year not 1 tourney
Bro started watching Valorant pro matches in VCT Champ 2023...
Leo dog walk c0m and any other initiator players.
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