Realistically did any of you expect C9 to take a map before the Grand finals. I think they did pretty good for America's 6th best team especially since they were going against EMEA's best team.
as of right now pushing Fnatic like that they look like top 3 in Americas at least but its all offseason so when the league starts it wont matter cause all the other teams will get better
People seem to dislike c9 in general because they kicked y0y for and actually made a good roster to compete in the Americas league. Overall, they always have very decent, sometimes really good rosters, but they have often fallen short of qualifying for international events.