why do you think its okay for a 25 year old to sexually harass a 15 year old. she’s s child regardless if it’s not illegal in brazil,
stop defending pancc you creepy fuck.
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I'm not defending him, I just said that that the girl has some fault too because she really knew what she was doing, flirting, and in the end she just said that "It was a test" as an excuse.
Now, if she hadn't been flirting with him and he had asked that and if he has the only one to take initiative, then yes, I would consider it wrong.
Is that hard to understand? :l
michaelisupset [#2]people forget that legality ≠ morality
he says the girl also flirted!!
15-16 year old brazilian girls are also more mature !!
what a load of bullshit and excuses and people are upvoting this creepy mf
moonemi [#6]he says the girl also flirted!!
15-16 year old brazilian girls are also more mature !!
what a load of bullshit and excuses and people are upvoting this creepy mf
bro tf........ 😭
SEN_brasileiros [#5]I'm not defending him, I just said that that the girl has some fault too because she really knew what she was doing, flirting, and in the end she just said that "It was a test" as an excuse.
Now, if she hadn't been flirting with him and he had asked that and if he has the only one to take initiative, then yes, I would consider it wrong.Is that hard to understand? :l
she’s a child. her brain isn’t even fully developed.
children make dumb choices. stop defending pancc
moonemi [#8]she’s a child. her brain isn’t even fully developed.
children make dumb choices. stop defending pancc
nah, its both. you're just being biased over her. 16yo is not innocent and dumb at all bro, wtf.
you're acting like pancc manipulated and "forced" as I said he never did that at all, if you read their texts he never insisted on anything, he just asked it since both were flirting, when girl said no he just accepted and moved on.
SEN_brasileiros [#9]nah, its both. you're just being biased over her. 16yo is not innocent and dumb at all bro, wtf.
you're acting like pancc manipulated and "forced" as I said he never did that at all, if you read their texts he never insisted on anything, he just asked it since both were flirting, when girl said no he just accepted and moved on.
bro search up the definition of statutory rape. minors are not capable of consent
Nachtel [#11]bro search up the definition of statutory rape. minors are not capable of consent
bro, thats US law........
u braindead
here 15+ can consent.
why americans keep using their law to explain things? wtf
moonemi [#8]she’s a child. her brain isn’t even fully developed.
children make dumb choices. stop defending pancc
Like playing valorant paying for skins
SEN_brasileiros [#12]bro, thats US law........
u braindead
here 15+ can consent.why americans keep using their law to explain things? wtf
In this one specific case, US law is morally correct
disgusting if Brazil allows that shit
Nachtel [#14]In this one specific case, US law is morally correct
disgusting if Brazil allows that shit
you consider US law more morally correct by your values.
but as I said, on my conception to be wrong what he did he had taken the initiative alone, and not both.
In Brazil It's also morally wrong, but It would be morally wrong if he taken the initiative solo. Since both were flirting and nobody cares at all ig.
SEN_brasileiros [#15]you consider US law more morally correct by your values.
but as I said, on my conception to be wrong what he did he had taken the initiative alone, and not both.In Brazil It's also morally wrong, but It would be morally wrong if he taken the initiative solo. Since both were flirting and nobody cares at all ig.
I grew up in Mexico which has its own share of disgusting age of consent laws (as low as 12 in certain cases)
I know what it's like to live in a society that shares different values from what the US considers morally correct.
but...
I still find it repugnant. 16 year olds are not capable of consent with someone 7 years older than them and it's concerning to me if you think they can. This is not a cultural issue.
Nachtel [#17]I grew up in Mexico which has its own share of disgusting age of consent laws (as low as 12 in certain cases)
I know what it's like to live in a society that shares different values from what the US considers morally correct.
but...
I still find it repugnant. 16 year olds are not capable of consent with someone 7 years older than them and it's concerning to me if you think they can. This is not a cultural issue.
So, 16 can't do anything sexual?
As I said again bro, it would be WRONG if he taken action SOLO, but both were flirting. :l
If he took action solo, or insisted or asked why she rejected him, then I would consider it wrong.
16 dating 18 for you is legal right? but 16 to 22 is not cuz 16 cannot consent? it just makes no sense at all...
SEN_brasileiros [#15]you consider US law more morally correct by your values.
but as I said, on my conception to be wrong what he did he had taken the initiative alone, and not both.In Brazil It's also morally wrong, but It would be morally wrong if he taken the initiative solo. Since both were flirting and nobody cares at all ig.
Holy pedo apologist
Any other first world country would acknowledge a 7 year age gap between a 23 year old and 16 year old is fucking weird and grooming, there’s a reason it was left in the past.
SEN_brasileiros [#18]So, 16 can't do anything sexual?
As I said again bro, it would be WRONG if he taken action SOLO, but both were flirting. :l
If he took action solo, or insisted or asked why she rejected him, then I would consider it wrong.16 dating 18 for you is legal right? but 16 to 22 is not cuz 16 cannot consent? it just makes no sense at all...
HE SHOULD NOT BE TALKING TO MINORS IN THE FIRST PLACE STOP APOLOGIZING GROOMING BEHAVIOR
4rrowlol [#19]Holy pedo apologist
Any other first world country would acknowledge a 7 year age gap between a 23 year old and 16 year old is fucking weird and grooming, there’s a reason it was left in the past.
21.
4rrowlol [#20]HE SHOULD NOT BE TALKING TO MINORS IN THE FIRST PLACE STOP APOLOGIZING GROOMING BEHAVIOR
So explain, 16 can talk with 18?
SEN_brasileiros [#21]21.
That makes it no better. People have rightfully got arrested and charged for less. A 21 year old self respecting man should never be engaging in any kind of romantic or sexual discussion with minors
SEN_brasileiros [#18]So, 16 can't do anything sexual?
As I said again bro, it would be WRONG if he taken action SOLO, but both were flirting. :l
If he took action solo, or insisted or asked why she rejected him, then I would consider it wrong.16 dating 18 for you is legal right? but 16 to 22 is not cuz 16 cannot consent? it just makes no sense at all...
Forgive the morbid example, but dude if a dog humps someones leg does that mean the dog is in the wrong if a sick mfer commits beastiality?
As intelligent as teenagers are, you cannot consider them emotionally mature enough to consent, and it's the rational adult thing to do to reject any advances from them if you are an adult (excluding romeo and juliet law type situations)
Even if she reciprocated the sexual advances you have to still consider it child exploitation on behalf of pancc
4rrowlol [#23]That makes it no better. People have rightfully got arrested and charged for less. A 21 year old self respecting man should never be engaging in any kind of romantic or sexual discussion with minors
I'm just trying to understand what the difference would be between someone 16 and 18 to date in the US, do you guys consider it wrong?
So in you guys head 16 dating 18, 16 can consent
But if 16 date someone 20 can't consent?
It just makes no sense to me at all, thats my point.
Nachtel [#14]In this one specific case, US law is morally correct
disgusting if Brazil allows that shit
you can consider whatever law you want morally, but sadly different countries different law basis, if i comitted a crime in germany i wouldn't be judged by the law of the US, it wouldnt make any sense.
wykes [#26]you can consider whatever law you want morally, but sadly different countries different law basis, if i comitted a crime in germany i wouldn't be judged by the law of the US, it wouldnt make any sense.
It's not about laws, in this case it's about the moral basis behind them.
Even if Brazillian law doesn't consider him a pedophile, I'm not asking a Brazillian magistrate, I'm asking you.
Do you think pancc is not a pedophile?
Nachtel [#27]It's not about laws, in this case it's about the moral basis behind them.
Even if Brazillian law doesn't consider him a pedophile, I'm not asking a Brazillian magistrate, I'm asking you.
Do you think pancc is not a pedophile?
Like, In Brazil people consider it if kids but not teenager 15+ at all. You're using this term based on what US law consider as it.
I just can't understand that how can someone 16 years old give consent to someone 18 and not give consensus to someone 22?
As I said, it would be considered wrong if pancc had taken initiative but he did not (cuz age gap) that's what most brazilians view at ped
If he had taken the initiative to want or insist on someone at that age, then yes.
But since both were flirting, I consider it more "acceptable" but still immoral.
Nachtel [#27]It's not about laws, in this case it's about the moral basis behind them.
Even if Brazillian law doesn't consider him a pedophile, I'm not asking a Brazillian magistrate, I'm asking you.
Do you think pancc is not a pedophile?
First, do not bring me into this topic if he is a pedophile or not because i did not talk about that and it is a waste of time, i answered about a certain topic i will only talk about it, not the other way around.
I simply answered that you can consider the US law morally correct, but in the end it does not matter for shit at all, since if someone commits a crime in "x" country they will not be judged under "y" country law, they will be convicted by the law of the country where the crime was commited.
Thats why different people can argue if its morally correct or not, but legally it does not mean shit sadly.
SEN_brasileiros [#28]Like, In Brazil people consider it if kids but not teenager 15+ at all. You're using this term based on what US law consider as it.
I just can't understand that how can someone 16 years old give consent to someone 18 and not give consensus to someone 22?As I said, it would be considered wrong if pancc had taken initiative but he did not (cuz age gap) that's what most brazilians view at ped
If he had taken the initiative to want or insist on someone at that age, then yes.
But since both were flirting, I consider it more "acceptable" but still immoral.
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wykes [#29]First, do not bring me into this topic if he is a pedophile or not because i did not talk about that and it is a waste of time, i answered about a certain topic i will only talk about it, not the other way around.
I simply answered that you can consider the US law morally correct, but in the end it does not matter for shit at all, since if someone commits a crime in "x" country they will not be judged under "y" country law, they will be convicted by the law of the country where the crime was commited.
Thats why different people can argue if its morally correct or not, but legally it does not mean shit sadly.
I agree, It's being annoying af and I'm not even trying to defend him at all, ppl just don't understand what I'm trying to explain
SEN_brasileiros [#28]Like, In Brazil people consider it if kids but not teenager 15+ at all. You're using this term based on what US law consider as it.
I just can't understand that how can someone 16 years old give consent to someone 18 and not give consensus to someone 22?As I said, it would be considered wrong if pancc had taken initiative but he did not (cuz age gap) that's what most brazilians view at ped
If he had taken the initiative to want or insist on someone at that age, then yes.
But since both were flirting, I consider it more "acceptable" but still immoral.
Technically a 16 yr old still can't give consent to 18 yr old but a "relation" between them is far less weird than one between a 22 yr old and a 16 yr old. Also it's not about the law, it's just morally disgusting. In Saudi Arabia, gay ppl can be flogged or stoned or torture acc to law. That doesn't make it ok
Nachtel [#30]#24
I see, but that doesn't explain much since she also took the initiative, so there's no exploration at all.
I just think that there's a huge difference between people on high school x people on university in US, in Brazil there's not that much at all since here is pretty much common to people around this age to be friends, for example people around 15-16 do some "course training" to SAT (in Brazil is called ENEM) with other people around 18-23y.
So it's very common for people to have friendships at these ages, I can already see that this is something quite impossible in the United States since normally you won't be in the same environment as someone that age.
GreyDaze [#32]Technically a 16 yr old still can't give consent to 18 yr old but a "relation" between them is far less weird than one between a 22 yr old and a 16 yr old. Also it's not about the law, it's just morally disgusting. In Saudi Arabia, gay ppl can be flogged or stoned or torture acc to law. That doesn't make it ok
Yeah, It's immoral.
I would also hate him if he was the ONLY one to start it, so It would make sense to "cancel him" and fuck his job.
SEN_brasileiros [#34]Yeah, It's immoral.
I would also hate him if he was the ONLY one to start it, so It would make sense to "cancel him" and fuck his job.
It doesn't matter if he started it or not. Any sane adult would know not to engage with someone that age. He is a disgusting person and doesn't deserve to be competing
michaelisupset [#2]people forget that legality ≠ morality
We need Sheriffs, Judges, and Marshals to come after pancc :)
GreyDaze [#35]It doesn't matter if he started it or not. Any sane adult would know not to engage with someone that age. He is a disgusting person and doesn't deserve to be competing
¯_(ツ)_/¯
SEN_brasileiros [#25]I'm just trying to understand what the difference would be between someone 16 and 18 to date in the US, do you guys consider it wrong?
So in you guys head 16 dating 18, 16 can consent
But if 16 date someone 20 can't consent?It just makes no sense to me at all, thats my point.
16 and 18 is situational and dependent on how close they are in terms of school years/how long they’ve known each other
16 and 20 is never ok, not only is it a 4 year age gap, but it’s also 2 completely different mental states and maturities
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