so how are cs events formatted throught out the year?
like how val has 2 masters and 1 champs every year
whats it like for cs or are there just a bunch of 3rd party events
(hltv way too confusing to understand it)
CS is better for viewers and I think it allows the teams to truly show who is the best team through a year. There are consitent T1 big events run by Blast and ESL and sometimes other organizers. The majors are Valve sponsered and run and they are like the Masters/Champions of Valorant. Not including the hundreds of T2 online/small LANS. It is harder on the players undoubtly.
cocoluna [#5]CS is better for viewers and I think it allows the teams to truly show who is the best team through a year. There are consitent T1 big events run by Blast and ESL and sometimes other organizers. The majors are Valve sponsered and run and they are like the Masters/Champions of Valorant. Not including the hundreds of T2 online/small LANS. It is harder on the players undoubtly.
So like what is usually the first tournament of the year and forward?
justinlee0710 [#7]usually two majors (same level as champions) in the year, one in the spring one in the fall
other big tourneys (iem kato, cologne, blast world finals) spread out in between
smaller tourneys that big teams have the choice to take part of year round
ok so what month does the spring one start and what month does the fall one start
speaking from southern hemisphere country
CoCloudy [#6]So like what is usually the first tournament of the year and forward?
blast spring showdown
pretty shit tournament with only invited teams but it is "A" tier
cocoluna [#5]CS is better for viewers and I think it allows the teams to truly show who is the best team through a year. There are consitent T1 big events run by Blast and ESL and sometimes other organizers. The majors are Valve sponsered and run and they are like the Masters/Champions of Valorant. Not including the hundreds of T2 online/small LANS. It is harder on the players undoubtly.
I think with valorant the teams are so widespread worldwide , I really hope they can have more international tournaments but i feel like its really hard on the players and team to gather often. In cs its a bit easier since a lot of the teams are EU centrailized.
CoCloudy [#8]ok so what month does the spring one start and what month does the fall one start
speaking from southern hemisphere country
spring quals start in feb or march usually. and for fall its usually august
Ullyr [#10]I think with valorant the teams are so widespread worldwide , I really hope they can have more international tournaments but i feel like its really hard on the players and team to gather often. In cs its a bit easier since a lot of the teams are EU centrailized.
yeah big bummer
CoCloudy [#8]ok so what month does the spring one start and what month does the fall one start
speaking from southern hemisphere country
spring major usually april/may depends on organizer
iem katowice feburary iem cologne july blast finals november
smaller iem/blast tourneys spread in between
generally t1/t2 teams play year round with the exception of a player break which is like month or two (may-june)
csgo players play as a full time job while val players have a lot more free time
Flanderzz [#11]spring quals start in feb or march usually. and for fall its usually august
is it like an open qual or is it like point based? or do teams js get invited?
justinlee0710 [#13]spring major usually april/may depends on organizer
iem katowice feburary iem cologne july blast finals november
smaller iem/blast tourneys spread in betweengenerally t1/t2 teams play year round with the exception of a player break which is like month or two (may-june)
csgo players play as a full time job while val players have a lot more free time
so there arent really any off season events or tourneys for cs?
CoCloudy [#14]is it like an open qual or is it like point based? or do teams js get invited?
invited for blast spring finals sort of like partnership but the orgs pay money
CoCloudy [#15]so there arent really any off season events or tourneys for cs?
there are some online games but not really they already play so much just let them rest
cocoluna [#16]invited for blast spring finals sort of like partnership but the orgs pay money
bro why is it so confusing why cant just valve make it simple like rito does ðŸ˜
makes it so hard for new people to get into it
syupr [#17]its messy and all over the place. i prefer this clear cut challengers/masters/champions format
fr its way too hard for new people to get invested in it
syupr [#17]its messy and all over the place. i prefer this clear cut challengers/masters/champions format
nah ive watched CSGO for years and it has gotten way better LMAO there are way less tounraments now no dreamhack, flashpoint, etc
it depends on each TOs, each one has its calendar for events in the year
in addition there are the majors that are organized by valve 2 times a year
you could say that the pro players play almost all year round, but they do have moments of rest during the year, I don't remember well when but there they are xD
https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/S-Tier_Tournaments (here you can see the "important" tournaments of the year)
CoCloudy [#19]bro why is it so confusing why cant just valve make it simple like rito does ðŸ˜
makes it so hard for new people to get into it
valve is changing it so no more partnered teams CS2 is a new horizon trust me CSGO esports is amazing and it got me into FPS games in general
cocoluna [#23]valve is changing it so no more partnered teams CS2 is a new horizon trust me CSGO esports is amazing and it got me into FPS games in general
so will cs2 actually have proper format??
cocoluna [#21]nah ive watched CSGO for years and it has gotten way better LMAO there are way less tounraments now no dreamhack, flashpoint, etc
what do you say to people like me who want to get into it but dont know where to start
CoCloudy [#25]what do you say to people like me who want to get into it but dont know where to start
just watch the big tournaments and then work your way down to like blast premier and other stuff
CoCloudy [#24]so will cs2 actually have proper format??
maybe valve has to work with a bunch of TOs and millions of dollars so it will take a while but it is impossible for a rigid format cause T2 teams would riot... The whole point of CS is a way to work up into T1
CoCloudy [#25]what do you say to people like me who want to get into it but dont know where to start
like bobkiller said watch the big T1 tourneys
ESL PRO LEAGUE is the next one in 5 ish days everything else rn is T2
Heres a website to see past tournaments easier if you’re new.
https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/S-Tier_Tournaments
Events:
S+: Majors - sponsored by Valve and chosen TO organizes it (2 per year typically one usually in Spring and one in Fall); IEM Katowice (Feb/March) and Cologne (June/July) - events that feel like a major but not technically (organized by ESL); Blast World Final (typically in December) - slightly under the previous events imo in terms of hype and prestigiousness but still huge event (organized by Blast ofc)
S: Blast Spring Final and Fall Final - season big events, Fall final is little more hype usually since it is in Copenhagen Royal Arena with a bigger CS audience; IEM events - big events but not as huge as Cologne or Katowice, around 3-4 events spread out per year, location depends but some in the past were in Sydney, Rio, Beijing, Dallas (very common per year), etc.
S-: ESL Pro League (variable time every year)- this is borderline to S tier as it has a big prizepool, but this is a chill event, but games are still very hype typically; Blast Spring and Fall Groups - big events to get qualified to Blast Spring Finals and Fall Finals. If you bomb out, you get another chance to qualify through Blast Spring and Final Showdown which is basically LCQ; Gamers8 - new organizer event that was added recently with a huge prizepool but the event itself is smaller than the rest (unsure if this event will continue next year and so forth).
Rest are A or below tier you can find on the link. If you think this is a lot, there used to be more events back then 2015-2019. My thoughts is that I like how many events there is because I can always watch many good events throughout the year.
b00tyl0rd [#30]Heres a website to see past tournaments easier if you’re new.
https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/S-Tier_TournamentsEvents:
S+: Majors - sponsored by Valve and chosen TO organizes it (2 per year typically one usually in Spring and one in Fall); IEM Katowice (Feb/March) and Cologne (June/July) - events that feel like a major but not technically (organized by ESL); Blast World Final (typically in December) - slightly under the previous events imo in terms of hype and prestigiousness but still huge event (organized by Blast ofc)S: Blast Spring Final and Fall Final - season big events, Fall final is little more hype usually since it is in Copenhagen Royal Arena with a bigger CS audience; IEM events - big events but not as huge as Cologne or Katowice, around 3-4 events spread out per year, location depends but some in the past were in Sydney, Rio, Beijing, Dallas (very common per year), etc.
S-: ESL Pro League (variable time every year)- this is borderline to S tier as it has a big prizepool, but this is a chill event, but games are still very hype typically; Blast Spring and Fall Groups - big events to get qualified to Blast Spring Finals and Fall Finals. If you bomb out, you get another chance to qualify through Blast Spring and Final Showdown which is basically LCQ; Gamers8 - new organizer event that was added recently with a huge prizepool but the event itself is smaller than the rest (unsure if this event will continue next year and so forth).
Rest are A or below tier you can find on the link. If you think this is a lot, there used to be more events back then 2015-2019. My thoughts is that I like how many events there is because I can always watch many good events throughout the year.
holee shet ty man
Ullyr [#10]I think with valorant the teams are so widespread worldwide , I really hope they can have more international tournaments but i feel like its really hard on the players and team to gather often. In cs its a bit easier since a lot of the teams are EU centrailized.
NA and Pacific region in cs died for that
CoCloudy [#6]So like what is usually the first tournament of the year and forward?
In terms of S tier events it goes
IEM Katowice
ESL Pro league
1st Major
Blast spring final
Bubbiewub [#34]In terms of S tier events it goes
IEM Katowice
ESL Pro league
1st Major
Blast spring final
- Summer break -
IEM Cologne
ESL Pro league
2nd Major (canceled in 2023 due to cs2)
Blast fall finals
Blast world finals
If you include pro league, then you also need to include like IEMs, which for all non CS watchers are just A tier events in great locations around the world with invites and open quals, which are how all cs tournaments work.
CoCloudy [#24]so will cs2 actually have proper format??
bruh what the cs format is how it should be. Every event has open quals and invited teams, the invited teams are different in blast and ESL events, but are usually the top teams. Majors don't have invited teams, instead, each region is broken into qualifiers called RMRs, and some teams get invited to that. RMR to major slots are determined based on the amount of teams in the legends(top 16)/champions stage(top 8) of the previous major. Majors are big, but there are so many other tournaments that for most teams, they are just a chance to show your skill on the big stage, not like val where you physically cant play against other regions unless you go.
Sc9r1ett [#35]If you include pro league, then you also need to include like IEMs, which for all non CS watchers are just A tier events in great locations around the world with invites and open quals, which are how all cs tournaments work.
yep iems are great too but id say theyre A tier where pro like is like in between a and s tier
Sc9r1ett [#36]bruh what the cs format is how it should be. Every event has open quals and invited teams, the invited teams are different in blast and ESL events, but are usually the top teams. Majors don't have invited teams, instead, each region is broken into qualifiers called RMRs, and some teams get invited to that. RMR to major slots are determined based on the amount of teams in the legends(top 16)/champions stage(top 8) of the previous major. Majors are big, but there are so many other tournaments that for most teams, they are just a chance to show your skill on the big stage, not like val where you physically cant play against other regions unless you go.
ive never seen a bigger cs cope before
your explaining it as if its common sense to know this horrendously messy schedule
Bubbiewub [#34]In terms of S tier events it goes
IEM Katowice
ESL Pro league
1st Major
Blast spring final
- Summer break -
IEM Cologne
ESL Pro league
2nd Major (canceled in 2023 due to cs2)
Blast fall finals
Blast world finals
how are teams like invited to it or qualified for the tourney
syupr [#17]its messy and all over the place. i prefer this clear cut challengers/masters/champions format
think from player pov
They have so many more chances to perform well and even t2 scene has so many tourneys
CoCloudy [#40]how are teams like invited to it or qualified for the tourney
So i dont know if you heard the news about Valve banning franchising but both ESL and Blast have partner teams atm (untuil 2025) where some teams have secured spots, but with open slots for open qualifiers anyone can play, meaning you and four friends could try to qualify for Cologne or Katowice if you wanted, however it would take quite a bit of time, as youd have to qualify for the qualifier in the first place lol.
This partner system will come to an end though and all the other big teams will need to qualify for these events either by doing well in past events securing them an invite or by playing the qualifiers
CoCloudy [#15]so there arent really any off season events or tourneys for cs?
nope
cuz CS offseason only last like 1.5-2 months LOL
CoCloudy [#39]ive never seen a bigger cs cope before
your explaining it as if its common sense to know this horrendously messy schedule
But you just say a "proper format" as if a league system is the best and only normal thing... the league system or only having one closed circuit is so fucking bad. The schedule in CS is rly easy to know, you check HLTV to see what events r coming up, half the slots r invites, half r quals, you can watch the quals for some good CS. The major is the only thing that's messy or weird as its outside the normal events that run, but since the major is so important and its own thing, its totally fine for that to happen.
b00tyl0rd [#30]Heres a website to see past tournaments easier if you’re new.
https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/S-Tier_TournamentsEvents:
S+: Majors - sponsored by Valve and chosen TO organizes it (2 per year typically one usually in Spring and one in Fall); IEM Katowice (Feb/March) and Cologne (June/July) - events that feel like a major but not technically (organized by ESL); Blast World Final (typically in December) - slightly under the previous events imo in terms of hype and prestigiousness but still huge event (organized by Blast ofc)S: Blast Spring Final and Fall Final - season big events, Fall final is little more hype usually since it is in Copenhagen Royal Arena with a bigger CS audience; IEM events - big events but not as huge as Cologne or Katowice, around 3-4 events spread out per year, location depends but some in the past were in Sydney, Rio, Beijing, Dallas (very common per year), etc.
S-: ESL Pro League (variable time every year)- this is borderline to S tier as it has a big prizepool, but this is a chill event, but games are still very hype typically; Blast Spring and Fall Groups - big events to get qualified to Blast Spring Finals and Fall Finals. If you bomb out, you get another chance to qualify through Blast Spring and Final Showdown which is basically LCQ; Gamers8 - new organizer event that was added recently with a huge prizepool but the event itself is smaller than the rest (unsure if this event will continue next year and so forth).
Rest are A or below tier you can find on the link. If you think this is a lot, there used to be more events back then 2015-2019. My thoughts is that I like how many events there is because I can always watch many good events throughout the year.
tanks brudda