will SEN fns work???

Pros:

• Improves structure on a previously chaotic team
• Helps boost lacklustre attacking halves for SEN with better executes etc
• Marved used bunch of Optic strats, smoother transition

Cons:

• marved gone :(
• does fenis play full time sentinel? not much faith in his anchoring abilities to hold up great on KJ, maybe Tenz jumps back on the chamber on maps and zekken dives
• Tenz said himself he liked Marved’s loose calling (no micromanaging etc) -> FNS opposite, might not mesh well with the puggy style SEN known for

Conclusion: SEN FNS isn’t as good as people are saying

ya this guys onto nothing only reason that roster wasn't good because they didn't have a micromanaging igl thats it

pugboy [#2]

ya this guys onto nothing only reason that roster wasn't good because they didn't have a micromanaging igl thats it

bro what do you think dephh was

If Chet comes along to SEN too, yes it would work. If Kaplan coach, inconsistent fluctuation performance as usual.

pugboy [#2]

ya this guys onto nothing only reason that roster wasn't good because they didn't have a micromanaging igl thats it

https://nerdstreet.com/news/2023/5/valorant-tenz-reflects-sentinels-season-and-role-with-players-association

do your research, this is your franchise player talking

sen poor af how they gna afford fns 😹

It won't Fenis is carried by Victor and crashies.

Nachtel [#3]

bro what do you think dephh was

I mean bro was consistently dropping like 5 kills even FNS is better mechanically plus FNS is a way better caller and dephh wasn't even main igl on xset ayrin was so I mean thats all you need to know really if this sen roster got FNS over Marved they would be really good I would be confident in that especially because pANcada plays his normal smokes not his senti which isn't great

Warlordwibz [#4]

If Chet comes along to SEN too, yes it would work. If Kaplan coach, inconsistent fluctuation performance as usual.

makes sense, I liked kaplan though, he was pretty chill

also his comma was like a dad who was trying to connect with his kids using GenZ lingo and stuff it was quite wholesome

pugboy [#8]

I mean bro was consistently dropping like 5 kills even FNS is better mechanically plus FNS is a way better caller and dephh wasn't even main igl on xset ayrin was so I mean thats all you need to know really if this sen roster got FNS over Marved they would be really good I would be confident in that especially because pANcada plays his normal smokes not his senti which isn't great

#5

read man read

wont work without chet

extan [#5]

https://nerdstreet.com/news/2023/5/valorant-tenz-reflects-sentinels-season-and-role-with-players-association

do your research, this is your franchise player talking

I'm not saying I didn't believe you your logic just wouldn't make sense TenZ would be an infinitely times better player if he had someone micromanage him also Zekken has said he hates the puggy style of valorant multiple times as well as pANcada and Sacy just coming off a team that is very based on micromanaging and than you get arguably the best IGL in the world ya ggs

it would work since pancada can go back to smokes

extan [#9]

makes sense, I liked kaplan though, he was pretty chill

also his comma was like a dad who was trying to connect with his kids using GenZ lingo and stuff it was quite wholesome

not that kaplan is bad or incompetent, i think its fns who needs chet to work well

extan [#10]

#5

read man read

I did read and dephh isn't a good micromanaging IGL so im not surprised thats the case why do you think they played so shit in lcq use your brain

pugboy [#12]

I'm not saying I didn't believe you your logic just wouldn't make sense TenZ would be an infinitely times better player if he had someone micromanage him also Zekken has said he hates the puggy style of valorant multiple times as well as pANcada and Sacy just coming off a team that is very based on micromanaging and than you get arguably the best IGL in the world ya ggs

“ya this guy is onto nothing”

neither you nor I can judge how Tenz is going to play, other than from what he says. What he says was that he was feeling comfortable under the Marved IGL era from the flexibility it gave the team. You took zekken’s quote out of context, it was about the ranked nonsense and 5 guys running down B main- not AS puggy as what Marved was doing obviously. LOUD was a micromanaging team, sure, but the language barrier there might not allow for the complexity of the calls to work, who knows

pugboy [#15]

I did read and dephh isn't a good micromanaging IGL so im not surprised thats the case why do you think they played so shit in lcq use your brain

they frankly got outaimed in some of those games, Marved was going -26 or something ridiculous -> an issue FNS is not going to fix

vipermommydomme [#13]

it would work since pancada can go back to smokes

if it was that easy I’m sure they would have done it before, also I’m slightly hesitant to put the player with the largest language barrier on controller

though pancada is a monster at smokes so it’s probably worth it

extan [#17]

they frankly got outaimed in some of those games, Marved was going -26 or something ridiculous -> an issue FNS is not going to fix

ya okay bud got outaimed the calls were not good and they seemed to have no game plan when they played especially against Leviatan you don't just get outaimed especially when you have like a top 3 mechanically roster in the world

pugboy [#19]

ya okay bud got outaimed the calls were not good and they seemed to have no game plan when they played especially against Leviatan you don't just get outaimed especially when you have like a top 3 mechanically roster in the world

bad games happen

also, I think you misunderstood my first comment, I wasn’t shitting on the idea of SEN FNS, I was just pointing out some key concerns that people have to pay attention to before it gets overhyped and people start getting disappointed if the results don’t come

also, coherent rosters take time and another IGL shakeup will probably set back all the progress they made as a cohesive team towards the end of the season

extan [#18]

if it was that easy I’m sure they would have done it before, also I’m slightly hesitant to put the player with the largest language barrier on controller

though pancada is a monster at smokes so it’s probably worth it

um the language barrier isnt as bad as you think it is pancada probably comms the most at sentinel you would know if you watchhed the comm videos plus extras at sen society which im subscirbed to

extan [#20]

bad games happen

also, I think you misunderstood my first comment, I wasn’t shitting on the idea of SEN FNS, I was just pointing out some key concerns that people have to pay attention to before it gets overhyped and people start getting disappointed if the results don’t come

also, coherent rosters take time and another IGL shakeup will probably set back all the progress they made as a cohesive team towards the end of the season

they didn't have a real IGL what are you going to do keep the roster the same Marved is going to NRG doubt he stays with SEN so you are changing IGLS may as well get the best they also played shit against c9 and they didn't even play good against 100t should have destroyed them on pearl but there pearl was so one dimensional they would do the same thing every round if you don't believe me go watch the vod they didn't have enough ideas because they didn't have a good igl good luck with backing your take up again because it makes no sense

extan [#20]

bad games happen

also, I think you misunderstood my first comment, I wasn’t shitting on the idea of SEN FNS, I was just pointing out some key concerns that people have to pay attention to before it gets overhyped and people start getting disappointed if the results don’t come

also, coherent rosters take time and another IGL shakeup will probably set back all the progress they made as a cohesive team towards the end of the season

no it woudnt as firstly they didnt have a deep strat book like a fnatic or nrg they had few strats and mainly picked one for one round and used it.
Secondly They had role issues even with marved this would benefit them as well as FNS being a micromanaging caller would help as sacy could be the 2nd caller as initiator like LOUD.
And Yes TenZ has stated he dosent like micromanaging igls he is not a stable holding type of pplayer he has stated he struggles holding angles and has ADHD and a micromanaging igl would benefit him

The style FNS uses results in wins when his teams are good enough, I doubt tenz would be against it as FNS could perhaps turn tenz into a disciplined player who doesn't overheat.

pugboy [#22]

they didn't have a real IGL what are you going to do keep the roster the same Marved is going to NRG doubt he stays with SEN so you are changing IGLS may as well get the best they also played shit against c9 and they didn't even play good against 100t should have destroyed them on pearl but there pearl was so one dimensional they would do the same thing every round if you don't believe me go watch the vod they didn't have enough ideas because they didn't have a good igl good luck with backing your take up again because it makes no sense

Exactly what i stated i do analysis did it a one month ago with kru and navi and a lot of people liked my work.
Dephh isnt a micromanaging igl he mainly relied on ayrin's help with the calling ayrin micomanages but dephh give straight up calls like split b at this time after this player does this or smth like that

tomato211222 [#21]

um the language barrier isnt as bad as you think it is pancada probably comms the most at sentinel you would know if you watchhed the comm videos plus extras at sen society which im subscirbed to

chill I’ve seen the channel vids too

bring part of sen society is a whole different beast though 💀💀

tomato211222 [#25]

Exactly what i stated i do analysis did it a one month ago with kru and navi and a lot of people liked my work.
Dephh isnt a micromanaging igl he mainly relied on ayrin's help with the calling ayrin micomanages but dephh give straight up calls like split b at this time after this player does this or smth like that

Thank god someone that knows what they're talking about

extan [#26]

chill I’ve seen the channel vids too

bring part of sen society is a whole different beast though 💀💀

i got thoes keychains too

tomato211222 [#28]

i got thoes keychains too

the Tenz ones? I thought they lowkey did him dirty but they’re still cute to have I guess

pugboy [#27]

Thank god someone that knows what they're talking about

i would appreciate if you checked this thread of mine from a couple of weeks ago
https://www.vlr.gg/246853/kru

extan [#29]

the Tenz ones? I thought they lowkey did him dirty but they’re still cute to have I guess

no the sentinels logo ones

tomato211222 [#30]

i would appreciate if you checked this thread of mine from a couple of weeks ago
https://www.vlr.gg/246853/kru

I did see this post ya KRU changed a shit ton a looked great excited for next year

tomato211222 [#31]

no the sentinels logo ones

fire

where did you put them?

pugboy [#32]

I did see this post ya KRU changed a shit ton a looked great excited for next year

Imaginie if kru get kiing they would own \
and thanks for checking the post out

pugboy [#8]

I mean bro was consistently dropping like 5 kills even FNS is better mechanically plus FNS is a way better caller and dephh wasn't even main igl on xset ayrin was so I mean thats all you need to know really if this sen roster got FNS over Marved they would be really good I would be confident in that especially because pANcada plays his normal smokes not his senti which isn't great

Yo pugboy, I posted this: https://www.vlr.gg/post/1857720/fun-facts-about-dephh for people like you back then!

And this regarding your "mechanical skill" argument: https://www.vlr.gg/post/1878804/fun-facts-about-dephh - if you want we can talk about how HS% reflects on one's mechanical skill. But, hopefully, you can see it yourself.
Though, I still see no arguments in your replies, and not that I ever asked from you to define or elaborate on what you are saying, right? - -

• https://www.vlr.gg/post/1224492/controversial-opinion

P.S. YOU NEED TO BASE your nonsense on something reasonable, since dumping rubbish from other shitshows on here doesn't seem convincing or original -seriously.

clocksky888 [#35]

Yo pugboy, I posted this: https://www.vlr.gg/post/1857720/fun-facts-about-dephh for people like you back then!

And this regarding your "mechanical skill" argument: https://www.vlr.gg/post/1878804/fun-facts-about-dephh - if you want we can talk about how HS% reflects on one's mechanical skill. But, hopefully, you can see it yourself.
Though, I still see no arguments in your replies, and not that I ever asked from you to define or elaborate on what you are saying, right? - -

• https://www.vlr.gg/post/1224492/controversial-opinion

P.S. YOU NEED TO BASE your nonsense on something reasonable, since dumping rubbish from other shitshows on here doesn't seem convincing or original -seriously.

and yet one player is still in valorant and the other is coaching a cs2 team get over it you did nothing here

pugboy [#36]

and yet one player is still in valorant and the other is coaching a cs2 team get over it you did nothing here

Elaborate on your BULLCRAP or GTFO together with your SHITSHOW-CLOWNFEST-like takes!

And yet you have no idea what you are talking about, not even trying to engage in rational discourse - bringing irrelevant BULLSHIT

Yeah, what a bright boi, please keep down fragging me. It is clear to me that you are incapable of doing anything else at this moment .

clocksky888 [#37]

Elaborate on your BULLCRAP or GTFO together with your SHITSHOW-CLOWNFEST-like takes!

And yet you have no idea what you are talking about, not even trying to engage in rational discourse - bringing irrelevant BULLSHIT

Yeah, what a bright boi, please keep down fragging me. It is clear to me that you are incapable of doing anything else at this moment .

I didn't even downfrag you moron you sound really mad for no reason right now and why do you bold and italic your writing like your thread has meaning or something your delusional wasn't even that serious and this guys mad that Idgaf about his post for "guys like me" you sound stupid

Elaborate on your BULLCRAP or GTFO together with your SHITSHOW-CLOWNFEST-like takes!

like who writes like this bro especially on vlr you sound 50 LMAOOO

pugboy [#38]

I didn't even downfrag you moron you sound really mad for no reason right now and why do you bold and italic your writing like your thread has meaning or something your delusional wasn't even that serious and this guys mad that Idgaf about his post for "guys like me" you sound stupid

Elaborate on your BULLCRAP or GTFO together with your SHITSHOW-CLOWNFEST-like takes!

like who writes like this bro especially on vlr you sound 50 LMAOOO

Don't lie, you weasel... If anything, we both know what I'm talking about; it's just that one of us doesn't want to confess it. Instead of regularly backing your ridiculous claims, you behave like a pitiful weasel... and this is not even for the first time.

I'll say it again, especially for you, ENGAGE in the TOPIC or GTFO! I don't care what you have to say on anything but the F-ING topic. SHOW me your knowledge, please, as I have doubts

Here, I'll help you to engage:

• You: "I mean bro was consistently dropping like 5 kills even FNS is better mechanically" - GTFO! Reread my post #35 and elaborate on those claim you made.

• You: "plus FNS is a way better caller - There is no proof to that, so I will let you out on this one.

• You: "ya this guys onto nothing only reason that roster wasn't good because they didn't have a micromanaging igl thats it Again, define micromanaging, so hopefully I and others could understand what do you mean and how to approach it from your point of you and how it affect team playstyle which essentially should lead to some success, I guess, right?

• You: "I did read and dephh isn't a good micromanaging IGL so im not surprised thats the case why do you think they played so shit in lcq use your brain" Well, use your own brain and time - SHOW your workings --> as claims are too BIG, I'd say.

• You: no game plan when they played especially against Leviatan you don't just get out aimed especially when you have like a top 3 mechanically roster in the world - You contradict to yourself here --> Yes, you get STOMPED landing deep in negative, if OUTPLAYED - again, you're with your BS here... HolyyyF

• You: "and yet one player is still in Valorant and the other is coaching a cs2 team get over it you did nothing here" - How can you draw such parallel to conclude on the matter... ARE YOU BRAINDEAD? Are you saying that all those players who don't play S-TIER Valorant tourneys DESERVE it because they are bad? I don't see any rational behind your argument --> ELABORATE!

I can go forever like that... All you need is to explain yourself, which is frankly should not be a big of a deal. But for unknown reasons, it seems that it is a big deal for you. I mean, don't you have some data or simply some rational behind your takes?

I called you out on your BS, "I mean bro was consistently dropping like 5 kills. Even FNS outperforms Dephh mechanically" by linking to my old post, https://www.vlr.gg/post/1857720/fun-facts-about-dephh - where Dephh was questioned about his capacity to perform, especially FNS vs. Dephh, and where you could clearly see that such accusations were always wrong and void of any appropriate evidence... from the below table ...

        Name            RD   Rating  ACS    K/D   ADR     KPR    APR    DPR     HS
Rory "Dephh" Jackson  5683   1       197.9  1.02  129.8   0.7    0.27   0.68   24.60%
Pujan "FNS"  Mehta    7190   0.86    179    0.9   117.5   0.62   0.26   0.68   20.60%

As well as this: https://www.vlr.gg/post/1224492/controversial-opinion - where I already asked you to do the same damn thing as I'm asking you right now - A F-ING year+ later. Like WTF, kid? How many more times I should point out to your BS? Seriously, are you that incapable or what?

YET, your façade pathétique has the audacity of calling me a 50 year old or something? ... Are you that desperate in having a father like figure in your life? Fine, you can call me DADDY --> now, back to your homework, son

P.S. What a CRINE af son - you are.

Edit: Added --> "What a CRINE af son - you are"

clocksky888 [#39]

Don't lie, you weasel... If anything, we both know what I'm talking about; it's just that one of us doesn't want to confess it. Instead of regularly backing your ridiculous claims, you behave like a pitiful weasel... and this is not even for the first time.

I'll say it again, especially for you, ENGAGE in the TOPIC or GTFO! I don't care what you have to say on anything but the F-ING topic. SHOW me your knowledge, please, as I have doubts

Here, I'll help you to engage:

• You: "I mean bro was consistently dropping like 5 kills even FNS is better mechanically" - GTFO! Reread my post #35 and elaborate on those claim you made.

• You: "plus FNS is a way better caller - There is no proof to that, so I will let you out on this one.

• You: "ya this guys onto nothing only reason that roster wasn't good because they didn't have a micromanaging igl thats it Again, define micromanaging, so hopefully I and others could understand what do you mean and how to approach it from your point of you and how it affect team playstyle which essentially should lead to some success, I guess, right?

• You: "I did read and dephh isn't a good micromanaging IGL so im not surprised thats the case why do you think they played so shit in lcq use your brain" Well, use your own brain and time - SHOW your workings --> as claims are too BIG, I'd say.

• You: no game plan when they played especially against Leviatan you don't just get out aimed especially when you have like a top 3 mechanically roster in the world - You contradict to yourself here --> Yes, you get STOMPED landing deep in negative, if OUTPLAYED - again, you're with your BS here... HolyyyF

• You: "and yet one player is still in Valorant and the other is coaching a cs2 team get over it you did nothing here" - How can you draw such parallel to conclude on the matter... ARE YOU BRAINDEAD? Are you saying that all those players who don't play S-TIER Valorant tourneys DESERVE it because they are bad? I don't see any rational behind your argument --> ELABORATE!

I can go forever like that... All you need is to explain yourself, which is frankly should not be a big of a deal. But for unknown reasons, it seems that it is a big deal for you. I mean, don't you have some data or simply some rational behind your takes?

I called you out on your BS, "I mean bro was consistently dropping like 5 kills. Even FNS outperforms Dephh mechanically" by linking to my old post, https://www.vlr.gg/post/1857720/fun-facts-about-dephh - where Dephh was questioned about his capacity to perform, especially FNS vs. Dephh, and where you could clearly see that such accusations were always wrong and void of any appropriate evidence... from the below table ...

        Name            RD   Rating  ACS    K/D   ADR     KPR    APR    DPR     HS
Rory "Dephh" Jackson  5683   1       197.9  1.02  129.8   0.7    0.27   0.68   24.60%
Pujan "FNS"  Mehta    7190   0.86    179    0.9   117.5   0.62   0.26   0.68   20.60%

As well as this: https://www.vlr.gg/post/1224492/controversial-opinion - where I already asked you to do the same damn thing as I'm asking you right now - A F-ING year+ later. Like WTF, kid? How many more times I should point out to your BS? Seriously, are you that incapable or what?

YET, your façade pathétique has the audacity of calling me a 50 year old or something? ... Are you that desperate in having a father like figure in your life? Fine, you can call me DADDY --> now, back to your homework, son

P.S. What a CRINE af son - you are.

Edit: Added --> "What a CRINE af son - you are"

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO this guy might actually be special

extan [#16]

“ya this guy is onto nothing”

neither you nor I can judge how Tenz is going to play, other than from what he says. What he says was that he was feeling comfortable under the Marved IGL era from the flexibility it gave the team. You took zekken’s quote out of context, it was about the ranked nonsense and 5 guys running down B main- not AS puggy as what Marved was doing obviously. LOUD was a micromanaging team, sure, but the language barrier there might not allow for the complexity of the calls to work, who knows

why is everyone in this thread so fucking stupid you don't even know what I am referring to when I say zekkens quote

pugboy [#40]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO this guy might actually be special

I am CALLING you OUT on your BULLSHIT - seriously!

You got my attention, son 😘

clocksky888 [#42]

I am CALLING you OUT on your BULLSHIT - seriously!

You got my attention, son 😘

bro what????

pugboy [#43]

bro what????

Nothing

clocksky888 [#44]

Nothing

okay grandpa you do you

pugboy [#45]

okay grandpa you do you

Now, back to the BULLSHIT part of yours -->https://www.vlr.gg/post/2742967/will-sen-fns-work

--> Elaborate on that or GTFO, son... And yes, I am calling you out - there.

clocksky888 [#46]

Now, back to the BULLSHIT part of yours -->https://www.vlr.gg/post/2742967/will-sen-fns-work

--> Elaborate on that or GTFO, son... And yes, I am calling you out - there.

elaborate on why FNS is a better IGL then dephh???? this guys actually delusional this is just common sense

clocksky888 [#35]

Yo pugboy, I posted this: https://www.vlr.gg/post/1857720/fun-facts-about-dephh for people like you back then!

And this regarding your "mechanical skill" argument: https://www.vlr.gg/post/1878804/fun-facts-about-dephh - if you want we can talk about how HS% reflects on one's mechanical skill. But, hopefully, you can see it yourself.
Though, I still see no arguments in your replies, and not that I ever asked from you to define or elaborate on what you are saying, right? - -

• https://www.vlr.gg/post/1224492/controversial-opinion

P.S. YOU NEED TO BASE your nonsense on something reasonable, since dumping rubbish from other shitshows on here doesn't seem convincing or original -seriously.

Although the stats are cool and all, they're not really relevant when the person you're comparing him to has a trophy and way more accomplishments under his belt.

Nachtel [#3]

bro what do you think dephh was

dephh was literally THE WORST player on the season, and messed up all roles just for him to play flex and still lose...

pugboy [#47]

elaborate on why FNS is a better IGL then dephh???? this guys actually delusional this is just common sense

Show your RATIONAL! No one is interested in your "he's good or he's bad" BS. Kiddo, you don't know me... similarly, I don't know you. So the only way is to find out through a discussion in a calm like nature, and with all necessary support available at hand. By support, I mean, support for your claims where needed <-- and I am very surprised that you have no idea what "Calling you out on your BS." means

So please, I am extremely interested in hearing what you have to say about my earlier post to you... try expanding in depth this time.: https://www.vlr.gg/post/2742967/will-sen-fns-work

Or exposed for BS, then, right? ... please receive

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clocksky888 [#50]

Show your RATIONAL! No one is interested in your "he's good or he's bad" BS. Kiddo, you don't know me... similarly, I don't know you. So the only way is to find out through a discussion in a calm like nature, and with all necessary support available at hand. By support, I mean, support for your claims where needed <-- and I am very surprised that you have no idea what "Calling you out on your BS." means

So please, I am extremely interested in hearing what you have to say about my earlier post to you... try expanding in depth this time.: https://www.vlr.gg/post/2742967/will-sen-fns-work

Or exposed for BS, then, right? ... please receive

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you still won't and can't specify what you want me to elaborate on because if its why dephh is worse than FNS its just obvious everyone agrees with that its common sense

pugboy [#51]

you still won't and can't specify what you want me to elaborate on because if its why dephh is worse than FNS its just obvious everyone agrees with that its common sense

This is precisely what I was expecting to hear from you --> No responsibility taken for your own claims.

Let me explain to you something... In Valorant or similar, we can still have EDUCATED or UNEDUCATED guesses ... that is, in this game or similar, we don't have straight FACTS, because not all of the information is disclosed or estimated... but we can and should engage in discussing the matter in a way of guesses/takes etc.
And those takes/guesses, however, normally belong to either the EDUCATED or UNEDUCATED groups.

Now, the UNEDUCATED group is simply known as BULLSHIT, which is basically, the takes similar to the one you're promoting here. And they will remain as bullshit until you provide some data on the matter. The EDUCATED group of guesses/takes, on the other hand, have the nature of only partially be true... yet despite not including all of the information in EDUCATED guesses/takes, you can still discuss the matter in close to objective reality of things, which is not a complete reality, or FACT, as there is nothing FACTUAL in any of our takes on here (including my takes), but only close to FACTUAL - near objective reality... and only by presenting partially available information you can accomplish that.

Jeeeee, kiddo, are you really that DUMB that I have to explain on how to critique your shit? What grade are you in?, ffs?

What a DEAD BRAIN, and not even FUN one, I swear 😐

clocksky888 [#37]

Elaborate on your BULLCRAP or GTFO together with your SHITSHOW-CLOWNFEST-like takes!

And yet you have no idea what you are talking about, not even trying to engage in rational discourse - bringing irrelevant BULLSHIT

Yeah, what a bright boi, please keep down fragging me. It is clear to me that you are incapable of doing anything else at this moment .

First of all no one is specifically saying that fns is better dephh at fragging or mechanical skill its the fact that fns is a better micromanaging caller is what would suite sen and also the roles would make sense for once.
As even before lock-in i had mentioned that dephh isnt really a good site anchor and is a better smoke player but pancada was playing smokes. The Team with dephh according to me was never built for success

TenZ also said that they're starting up prac so he's probably staying

clocksky888 [#39]

Don't lie, you weasel... If anything, we both know what I'm talking about; it's just that one of us doesn't want to confess it. Instead of regularly backing your ridiculous claims, you behave like a pitiful weasel... and this is not even for the first time.

I'll say it again, especially for you, ENGAGE in the TOPIC or GTFO! I don't care what you have to say on anything but the F-ING topic. SHOW me your knowledge, please, as I have doubts

Here, I'll help you to engage:

• You: "I mean bro was consistently dropping like 5 kills even FNS is better mechanically" - GTFO! Reread my post #35 and elaborate on those claim you made.

• You: "plus FNS is a way better caller - There is no proof to that, so I will let you out on this one.

• You: "ya this guys onto nothing only reason that roster wasn't good because they didn't have a micromanaging igl thats it Again, define micromanaging, so hopefully I and others could understand what do you mean and how to approach it from your point of you and how it affect team playstyle which essentially should lead to some success, I guess, right?

• You: "I did read and dephh isn't a good micromanaging IGL so im not surprised thats the case why do you think they played so shit in lcq use your brain" Well, use your own brain and time - SHOW your workings --> as claims are too BIG, I'd say.

• You: no game plan when they played especially against Leviatan you don't just get out aimed especially when you have like a top 3 mechanically roster in the world - You contradict to yourself here --> Yes, you get STOMPED landing deep in negative, if OUTPLAYED - again, you're with your BS here... HolyyyF

• You: "and yet one player is still in Valorant and the other is coaching a cs2 team get over it you did nothing here" - How can you draw such parallel to conclude on the matter... ARE YOU BRAINDEAD? Are you saying that all those players who don't play S-TIER Valorant tourneys DESERVE it because they are bad? I don't see any rational behind your argument --> ELABORATE!

I can go forever like that... All you need is to explain yourself, which is frankly should not be a big of a deal. But for unknown reasons, it seems that it is a big deal for you. I mean, don't you have some data or simply some rational behind your takes?

I called you out on your BS, "I mean bro was consistently dropping like 5 kills. Even FNS outperforms Dephh mechanically" by linking to my old post, https://www.vlr.gg/post/1857720/fun-facts-about-dephh - where Dephh was questioned about his capacity to perform, especially FNS vs. Dephh, and where you could clearly see that such accusations were always wrong and void of any appropriate evidence... from the below table ...

        Name            RD   Rating  ACS    K/D   ADR     KPR    APR    DPR     HS
Rory "Dephh" Jackson  5683   1       197.9  1.02  129.8   0.7    0.27   0.68   24.60%
Pujan "FNS"  Mehta    7190   0.86    179    0.9   117.5   0.62   0.26   0.68   20.60%

As well as this: https://www.vlr.gg/post/1224492/controversial-opinion - where I already asked you to do the same damn thing as I'm asking you right now - A F-ING year+ later. Like WTF, kid? How many more times I should point out to your BS? Seriously, are you that incapable or what?

YET, your façade pathétique has the audacity of calling me a 50 year old or something? ... Are you that desperate in having a father like figure in your life? Fine, you can call me DADDY --> now, back to your homework, son

P.S. What a CRINE af son - you are.

Edit: Added --> "What a CRINE af son - you are"

You asked: define micromanaging :Micro Managing is a term used in esports to define a caller/igl who give specific callouts such as : crashies flash b for info me and yay will walk up a and then lets split a after making noise b.
Now do you understand what the basic term of micromanaging means. Even in your daily life sometimes mothers have to micromanage their children instead of telling their children to get ready for school they will make them ready for school.
And i dont think i have to prove that FNS is a better caller than Dephh and the proof your asking has only 1 case that is
SEN vs NRG Regular Season map 1 Dephh way of calling and their general adaptation(which comes from eitehr igl or coach) was not good.
The rest of the matches like Optic Vs XSET ayrin was also calling for XSET so i cant give you exact proof but Ayrin did most of the IGL work

clocksky888 [#52]

This is precisely what I was expecting to hear from you --> No responsibility taken for your own claims.

Let me explain to you something... In Valorant or similar, we can still have EDUCATED or UNEDUCATED guesses ... that is, in this game or similar, we don't have straight FACTS, because not all of the information is disclosed or estimated... but we can and should engage in discussing the matter in a way of guesses/takes etc.
And those takes/guesses, however, normally belong to either the EDUCATED or UNEDUCATED groups.

Now, the UNEDUCATED group is simply known as BULLSHIT, which is basically, the takes similar to the one you're promoting here. And they will remain as bullshit until you provide some data on the matter. The EDUCATED group of guesses/takes, on the other hand, have the nature of only partially be true... yet despite not including all of the information in EDUCATED guesses/takes, you can still discuss the matter in close to objective reality of things, which is not a complete reality, or FACT, as there is nothing FACTUAL in any of our takes on here (including my takes), but only close to FACTUAL - near objective reality... and only by presenting partially available information you can accomplish that.

Jeeeee, kiddo, are you really that DUMB that I have to explain on how to critique your shit? What grade are you in?, ffs?

What a DEAD BRAIN, and not even FUN one, I swear 😐

First Off Dephh is not a main caller. He and other members of XSET have stated that many times im pretty sure i dont have to show vods of that to you do i? Secondly FNS is one of best IGL'S That valorant has ever since also a known fact he outcalled Saadhak and if you think FNS is a bad igl I dont even know what to say. Comparing Dephh and Fns dosent make sense as dephh is not a main caller. But if he was which he was in Sentinels he got outcalled by FNS During the NRG VS Sen Regular Season
Nobody is hating on dephh he wasnt in his main role in 2023 and kinda is the reason they had problems if he had stuck to sentinel we woudnt have had the role issues and he wasnt playing the best as in K/D either

Not a good choice cause I might have to change the name real quick.

tomato211222 [#53]

First of all no one is specifically saying that fns is better dephh at fragging or mechanical skill its the fact that fns is a better micromanaging caller is what would suite sen and also the roles would make sense for once.
As even before lock-in i had mentioned that dephh isnt really a good site anchor and is a better smoke player but pancada was playing smokes. The Team with dephh according to me was never built for success

"The Team with dephh according to me was never built for success" - and that's OK as it's your opinion - however, there were many who still think that it was good enough. Let's not discuss that as it has nothing to do with the matter.

That was one thing.... another thing - pugboy knows very well what I am asking from him, but he's playing dumb... and I was basing my conversation strictly on his BS - not what said or anything regarding your takes, which make me wonder: "why do you bother?"

Oh, just in case, I am also CANADIAN,... please, don't let my SCOTTISH flag to mislead you --> I am not originally from the place/s I reside or will reside in the future.

clocksky888 [#52]

This is precisely what I was expecting to hear from you --> No responsibility taken for your own claims.

Let me explain to you something... In Valorant or similar, we can still have EDUCATED or UNEDUCATED guesses ... that is, in this game or similar, we don't have straight FACTS, because not all of the information is disclosed or estimated... but we can and should engage in discussing the matter in a way of guesses/takes etc.
And those takes/guesses, however, normally belong to either the EDUCATED or UNEDUCATED groups.

Now, the UNEDUCATED group is simply known as BULLSHIT, which is basically, the takes similar to the one you're promoting here. And they will remain as bullshit until you provide some data on the matter. The EDUCATED group of guesses/takes, on the other hand, have the nature of only partially be true... yet despite not including all of the information in EDUCATED guesses/takes, you can still discuss the matter in close to objective reality of things, which is not a complete reality, or FACT, as there is nothing FACTUAL in any of our takes on here (including my takes), but only close to FACTUAL - near objective reality... and only by presenting partially available information you can accomplish that.

Jeeeee, kiddo, are you really that DUMB that I have to explain on how to critique your shit? What grade are you in?, ffs?

What a DEAD BRAIN, and not even FUN one, I swear 😐

I mean dephh rating this year 0.7 fns rating this year 0.91 so there goes your dumb rating take second dephh never main igl'd so he was never a good caller in the first place especially micromanaging caller so there is another reason FNS is better third highest place dephh has placed in a tourney 5-6th FNS has won a tournament two runner ups and 2 4th places so I mean somehow you are now losing an argument to someone who is supposedly in grade school alright buddy good luck dumb fuck

tomato211222 [#55]

You asked: define micromanaging :Micro Managing is a term used in esports to define a caller/igl who give specific callouts such as : crashies flash b for info me and yay will walk up a and then lets split a after making noise b.
Now do you understand what the basic term of micromanaging means. Even in your daily life sometimes mothers have to micromanage their children instead of telling their children to get ready for school they will make them ready for school.
And i dont think i have to prove that FNS is a better caller than Dephh and the proof your asking has only 1 case that is
SEN vs NRG Regular Season map 1 Dephh way of calling and their general adaptation(which comes from eitehr igl or coach) was not good.
The rest of the matches like Optic Vs XSET ayrin was also calling for XSET so i cant give you exact proof but Ayrin did most of the IGL work

WTF, bro?

Are you pugboy?

Please, just let things get back where they should be.

clocksky888 [#60]

WTF, bro?

Are you pugboy?

Please, just let things get back where they should be.

I've said the same thing with less detail sorry that you are losing an argument because your take is stupid

tomato211222 [#53]

First of all no one is specifically saying that fns is better dephh at fragging or mechanical skill its the fact that fns is a better micromanaging caller is what would suite sen and also the roles would make sense for once.
As even before lock-in i had mentioned that dephh isnt really a good site anchor and is a better smoke player but pancada was playing smokes. The Team with dephh according to me was never built for success

this guys a moron don't bother embarrassing that he is canadian

pugboy [#61]

I've said the same thing with less detail sorry that you are losing an argument because your take is stupid

Kid, just BUZZ OFF already!

Holyyyy... and take your boyfriend - rotten tomato211222 away from me! ... LMAO

clocksky888 [#63]

Kid, just BUZZ OFF already!

Holyyyy... and take your boyfriend - rotten tomato211222 away from me! ... LMAO

okay so don't respond back to why fns is better ya this guys genuinely the stupidest person to grace this website and I have met some fucking idiots

pugboy [#62]

this guys a moron don't bother embarrassing that he is canadian

I am CANADIAN too, you BISHHH 🙃😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🪵🪚

Let's have some ORGY, right here ... get down already LMAO .... HolyF, what a CRINGE show 🙃

clocksky888 [#63]

Kid, just BUZZ OFF already!

Holyyyy... and take your boyfriend - rotten tomato211222 away from me! ... LMAO

First off i dont even know pugboy but he genrally is a good vlr user and secondly why are you mad that someone else has proven you wrong anyone can prove any one wrong if this was the case then pugboy stated all my points with less details.
Then even fking Neil's Bour wouldnt be proven wrong

clocksky888 [#65]

I am CANADIAN too, you BISHHH 🙃😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🪵🪚

Let's have some ORGY, right here ... get down already LMAO .... HolyF, what a CRINGE show 🙃

... i didn't say u weren't just read

pugboy [#62]

this guys a moron don't bother embarrassing that he is canadian

i know pugboy he is mad that i stated pure facts and i dont know why he is mad i cleared answered all his points i defined micromanaging with a real life example of a mother and her children which i think is pretty clear no? and i also stated that dephh isnt main igl so we cant compare them instead take their induviduval igl experience where FNS outcalled Dephh in the Regular season game

pugboy [#67]

... i didn't say u weren't just read

Friendly fire then... what u doin ???

Stop throwing at me your toxic TOMATO 😂😂😂 Seriously LMAO!

tomato211222 [#68]

i know pugboy he is mad that i stated pure facts and i dont know why he is mad i cleared answered all his points i defined micromanaging with a real life example of a mother and her children which i think is pretty clear no? and i also stated that dephh isnt main igl so we cant compare them instead take their induviduval igl experience where FNS outcalled Dephh in the Regular season game

its just a dumb argument impossible to talk to idiots because they have no argument even tho they seemingly think they do

pugboy [#59]

I mean dephh rating this year 0.7 fns rating this year 0.91 so there goes your dumb rating take second dephh never main igl'd so he was never a good caller in the first place especially micromanaging caller so there is another reason FNS is better third highest place dephh has placed in a tourney 5-6th FNS has won a tournament two runner ups and 2 4th places so I mean somehow you are now losing an argument to someone who is supposedly in grade school alright buddy good luck dumb fuck

Exactly what i stated tho i dont know about that rating thingy

tomato211222 [#68]

i know pugboy he is mad that i stated pure facts and i dont know why he is mad i cleared answered all his points i defined micromanaging with a real life example of a mother and her children which i think is pretty clear no? and i also stated that dephh isnt main igl so we cant compare them instead take their induviduval igl experience where FNS outcalled Dephh in the Regular season game

Right pugboy, we know that he is mad from pure facts?

Zekken
FNS
Sacy
Pancada
Aspas
would be a good team ngl

clocksky888 [#69]

Friendly fire then... what u doin ???

Stop throwing at me your toxic TOMATO 😂😂😂 Seriously LMAO!

huh?

pugboy [#74]

huh?

Its probably a bait anyway

pugboy [#74]

huh?

srly? tomato211222 you threw at me... why u do dis?

clocksky888 [#72]

Right pugboy, we know that he is mad from pure facts?

ok bud

tomato211222 [#71]

Exactly what i stated tho i dont know about that rating thingy

just calculated FNC rating through every tourney and divided by how many tourneys he has played same for dephh

tomato211222 [#75]

Its probably a bait anyway

ya I mean at this point he knows hes wrong

tomato211222 [#66]

First off i dont even know pugboy but he genrally is a good vlr user and secondly why are you mad that someone else has proven you wrong anyone can prove any one wrong if this was the case then pugboy stated all my points with less details.
Then even fking Neil's Bour wouldnt be proven wrong

HERE I will repost, especially for you my, LOVELY and BULKY tomato .... but try but in detail and support your claims this time ...
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Don't lie, you weasel... If anything, we both know what I'm talking about; it's just that one of us doesn't want to confess it. Instead of regularly backing your ridiculous claims, you behave like a pitiful weasel... and this is not even for the first time.

I'll say it again, especially for you, ENGAGE in the TOPIC or GTFO! I don't care what you have to say on anything but the F-ING topic. SHOW me your knowledge, please, as I have doubts

Here, I'll help you to engage:

• You: "I mean bro was consistently dropping like 5 kills even FNS is better mechanically" - GTFO! Reread my post #35 and elaborate on those claim you made.

• You: "plus FNS is a way better caller - There is no proof to that, so I will let you out on this one.

• You: "ya this guys onto nothing only reason that roster wasn't good because they didn't have a micromanaging igl thats it Again, define micromanaging, so hopefully I and others could understand what do you mean and how to approach it from your point of you and how it affect team playstyle which essentially should lead to some success, I guess, right?

• You: "I did read and dephh isn't a good micromanaging IGL so im not surprised thats the case why do you think they played so shit in lcq use your brain" Well, use your own brain and time - SHOW your workings --> as claims are too BIG, I'd say.

• You: no game plan when they played especially against Leviatan you don't just get out aimed especially when you have like a top 3 mechanically roster in the world - You contradict to yourself here --> Yes, you get STOMPED landing deep in negative, if OUTPLAYED - again, you're with your BS here... HolyyyF

• You: "and yet one player is still in Valorant and the other is coaching a cs2 team get over it you did nothing here" - How can you draw such parallel to conclude on the matter... ARE YOU BRAINDEAD? Are you saying that all those players who don't play S-TIER Valorant tourneys DESERVE it because they are bad? I don't see any rational behind your argument --> ELABORATE!

I can go forever like that... All you need is to explain yourself, which is frankly should not be a big of a deal. But for unknown reasons, it seems that it is a big deal for you. I mean, don't you have some data or simply some rational behind your takes?

I called you out on your BS, "I mean bro was consistently dropping like 5 kills. Even FNS outperforms Dephh mechanically" by linking to my old post, https://www.vlr.gg/post/1857720/fun-facts-about-dephh - where Dephh was questioned about his capacity to perform, especially FNS vs. Dephh, and where you could clearly see that such accusations were always wrong and void of any appropriate evidence... from the below table ...

        Name            RD   Rating  ACS    K/D   ADR     KPR    APR    DPR     HS
Rory "Dephh" Jackson  5683   1       197.9  1.02  129.8   0.7    0.27   0.68   24.60%
Pujan "FNS"  Mehta    7190   0.86    179    0.9   117.5   0.62   0.26   0.68   20.60%

As well as this: https://www.vlr.gg/post/1224492/controversial-opinion - where I already asked you to do the same damn thing as I'm asking you right now - A F-ING year+ later. Like WTF, kid? How many more times I should point out to your BS? Seriously, are you that incapable or what?

YET, your façade pathétique has the audacity of calling me a 50 year old or something? ... Are you that desperate in having a father like figure in your life? Fine, you can call me DADDY --> now, back to your homework, son

P.S. What a CRINE af son - you are.

Edit: Added --> "What a CRINE af son - you are"

DDot [#73]

Zekken
FNS
Sacy
Pancada
Aspas
would be a good team ngl

championship quality no?

pugboy [#77]

ok bud

bud... yeah, bud

clocksky888 [#80]

HERE I will repost, especially for you my, LOVELY and BULKY tomato .... but try but in detail and support your claims this time ...
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Don't lie, you weasel... If anything, we both know what I'm talking about; it's just that one of us doesn't want to confess it. Instead of regularly backing your ridiculous claims, you behave like a pitiful weasel... and this is not even for the first time.

I'll say it again, especially for you, ENGAGE in the TOPIC or GTFO! I don't care what you have to say on anything but the F-ING topic. SHOW me your knowledge, please, as I have doubts

Here, I'll help you to engage:

• You: "I mean bro was consistently dropping like 5 kills even FNS is better mechanically" - GTFO! Reread my post #35 and elaborate on those claim you made.

• You: "plus FNS is a way better caller - There is no proof to that, so I will let you out on this one.

• You: "ya this guys onto nothing only reason that roster wasn't good because they didn't have a micromanaging igl thats it Again, define micromanaging, so hopefully I and others could understand what do you mean and how to approach it from your point of you and how it affect team playstyle which essentially should lead to some success, I guess, right?

• You: "I did read and dephh isn't a good micromanaging IGL so im not surprised thats the case why do you think they played so shit in lcq use your brain" Well, use your own brain and time - SHOW your workings --> as claims are too BIG, I'd say.

• You: no game plan when they played especially against Leviatan you don't just get out aimed especially when you have like a top 3 mechanically roster in the world - You contradict to yourself here --> Yes, you get STOMPED landing deep in negative, if OUTPLAYED - again, you're with your BS here... HolyyyF

• You: "and yet one player is still in Valorant and the other is coaching a cs2 team get over it you did nothing here" - How can you draw such parallel to conclude on the matter... ARE YOU BRAINDEAD? Are you saying that all those players who don't play S-TIER Valorant tourneys DESERVE it because they are bad? I don't see any rational behind your argument --> ELABORATE!

I can go forever like that... All you need is to explain yourself, which is frankly should not be a big of a deal. But for unknown reasons, it seems that it is a big deal for you. I mean, don't you have some data or simply some rational behind your takes?

I called you out on your BS, "I mean bro was consistently dropping like 5 kills. Even FNS outperforms Dephh mechanically" by linking to my old post, https://www.vlr.gg/post/1857720/fun-facts-about-dephh - where Dephh was questioned about his capacity to perform, especially FNS vs. Dephh, and where you could clearly see that such accusations were always wrong and void of any appropriate evidence... from the below table ...

        Name            RD   Rating  ACS    K/D   ADR     KPR    APR    DPR     HS
Rory "Dephh" Jackson  5683   1       197.9  1.02  129.8   0.7    0.27   0.68   24.60%
Pujan "FNS"  Mehta    7190   0.86    179    0.9   117.5   0.62   0.26   0.68   20.60%

As well as this: https://www.vlr.gg/post/1224492/controversial-opinion - where I already asked you to do the same damn thing as I'm asking you right now - A F-ING year+ later. Like WTF, kid? How many more times I should point out to your BS? Seriously, are you that incapable or what?

YET, your façade pathétique has the audacity of calling me a 50 year old or something? ... Are you that desperate in having a father like figure in your life? Fine, you can call me DADDY --> now, back to your homework, son

P.S. What a CRINE af son - you are.

Edit: Added --> "What a CRINE af son - you are"

what claims these aare facts not claims bro thats the whole point you go ask a fking kid he will tell you( i mean it in phrase way not in seriousness) every thing i said is a fact not a claim, claims need proofs facts dont

pugboy [#79]

ya I mean at this point he knows hes wrong

🍿

clocksky888 [#72]

Right pugboy, we know that he is mad from pure facts?

Brother with all due respect pls tell me whats wrong with all my 4 posts which kinda prove you wrong these are the important points so you dont have to read the whole thing. These are facts they dont need profs everyone knows this already
You asked: define micromanaging :Micro Managing is a term used in esports to define a caller/igl who give specific callouts such as : crashies flash b for info me and yay will walk up a and then lets split a after making noise b.
Now do you understand what the basic term of micromanaging means. Even in your daily life sometimes mothers have to micromanage their children instead of telling their children to get ready for school they will make them ready for school.
Comparing Dephh and Fns dosent make sense as dephh is not a main caller. But if he was which he was in Sentinels he got outcalled by FNS During the NRG VS Sen Regular Season
First of all no one is specifically saying that fns is better dephh at fragging or mechanical skill its the fact that fns is a better micromanaging caller is what would suite sen and also the roles would make sense for once.

pugboy [#41]

why is everyone in this thread so fucking stupid you don't even know what I am referring to when I say zekkens quote

what’s the quote then

you have no right to call other people “fucking stupid” when you’ve given nothing but inconsistent evidence and paraphrases

pugboy [#78]

just calculated FNC rating through every tourney and divided by how many tourneys he has played same for dephh

I can hear you whispering here, my LOVELY couple 😂🍿

pugboy [#78]

just calculated FNC rating through every tourney and divided by how many tourneys he has played same for dephh

makses sense

extan [#86]

what’s the quote then

you have no right to call other people “fucking stupid” when you’ve given nothing but inconsistent evidence and paraphrases

not looking through every zekken tweet ever it was about fnatic winning and being dominant and how much he loved it and hated PRX style a lot

pugboy [#89]

not looking through every zekken tweet ever it was about fnatic winning and being dominant and how much he loved it and hated PRX style a lot

thank you for yet again covering up your lack of evidence by saying you’re “not fucked”

you had time to write paragraphs to the angry dephh supporter but can’t search for a single quote

also, let’s be honest here, half the shit zekken tweets he be pulling out his ass

clocksky888 [#87]

I can hear you whispering here, my LOVELY couple 😂🍿

Bro is actually Braindead fr

extan [#90]

thank you for yet again covering up your lack of evidence by saying you’re “not fucked”

you had time to write paragraphs to the angry dephh supporter but can’t search for a single quote

also, let’s be honest here, half the shit zekken tweets he be pulling out his ass

ya I mean sure wtv I say his bull fuck but if you say its fine "half the shit zekken tweets he be pulling out his ass" okay bud nice argument you can go embarass yourself and look for the tweet but I don't want to or care to argue anymore about such a dumb take

pugboy [#92]

ya I mean sure wtv I say his bull fuck but if you say its fine "half the shit zekken tweets he be pulling out his ass" okay bud nice argument you can go embarass yourself and look for the tweet but I don't want to or care to argue anymore about such a dumb take

then dips from the convo when he starts being unable to defend his position, bravo

the good guys win again

extan [#93]

then dips from the convo when he starts being unable to defend his position, bravo

the good guys win again

this guys an idiot you can look through the whole forum so much evidence there not rewriting anything for a moron like you

tomato211222 [#85]

Brother with all due respect pls tell me whats wrong with all my 4 posts which kinda prove you wrong these are the important points so you dont have to read the whole thing. These are facts they dont need profs everyone knows this already
You asked: define micromanaging :Micro Managing is a term used in esports to define a caller/igl who give specific callouts such as : crashies flash b for info me and yay will walk up a and then lets split a after making noise b.
Now do you understand what the basic term of micromanaging means. Even in your daily life sometimes mothers have to micromanage their children instead of telling their children to get ready for school they will make them ready for school.
Comparing Dephh and Fns dosent make sense as dephh is not a main caller. But if he was which he was in Sentinels he got outcalled by FNS During the NRG VS Sen Regular Season
First of all no one is specifically saying that fns is better dephh at fragging or mechanical skill its the fact that fns is a better micromanaging caller is what would suite sen and also the roles would make sense for once.

KID, there is no need for him to have a defensive team! It's not a F-ing court here and I questioned him about something I wanted him to talk about. PERIOD.

Holyyy... what do you want from me? I didn't even read what you had to say because you weren't present throughout my talk with pugboy, neither you were a part of my conversation with him here: https://www.vlr.gg/121275/controversial-opinion/#30 ... I was strictly talking to pugboy - not YOU, ffs! LMAO ... I just can't....GOOD morning CANADO!

Here's a cookie for you -🍪... NOW, buzz OFF!

pugboy [#94]

this guys an idiot you can look through the whole forum so much evidence there not rewriting anything for a moron like you

conditional laziness I see

had time for one more snide response but didn’t have the time to actually say anything of value to his argument

DDot [#73]

Zekken
FNS
Sacy
Pancada
Aspas
would be a good team ngl

That is kinda scary ngl

extan [#96]

conditional laziness I see

had time for one more snide response but didn’t have the time to actually say anything of value to his argument

huh? you have all the information in your face on the thread your the lazy one just go look why would I keep on repeating myself to two idiots

clocksky888 [#95]

KID, there is no need for him to have a defensive team! It's not a F-ing court here and I questioned him about something I wanted him to talk about. PERIOD.

Holyyy... what do you want from me? I didn't even read what you had to say because you weren't present throughout my talk with pugboy, neither you were a part of my conversation with him here: https://www.vlr.gg/121275/controversial-opinion/#30 ... I was strictly talking to pugboy - not YOU, ffs! LMAO ... I just can't....GOOD morning CANADO!

Here's a cookie for you -🍪... NOW, buzz OFF!

Im not talking about that previous thread of your and also i read every single post of you and pugboy so what makes you think i cant join a conversation im just asking whats wrong with my opinion and you keep using this italin font im guessing for what to make your arguement sound better? Its just a discussion and anyone can join if you want it between you and pugboy then do it in dms not in a thread

DDot [#73]

Zekken
FNS
Sacy
Pancada
Aspas
would be a good team ngl

Man this roster looks good

pugboy [#98]

huh? you have all the information in your face on the thread your the lazy one just go look why would I keep on repeating myself to two idiots

it’s not my prerogative to look for your evidence for you

I gave my news articles, it’s your turn to provide yours. The reason why you’re refusing to is that you can’t find any.

Why on earth people having this conversation? Im suprised this thread has not been deleted yet

extan [#17]

they frankly got outaimed in some of those games, Marved was going -26 or something ridiculous -> an issue FNS is not going to fix

an issue FNS is not going to fix

That's a bold statement. Marved was the best player mechanically on Optic next to yay and fragged like crazy. Of course it's harder to consistently win those duels when you're IGLing and have to focus on the macro a lot more.

Saying Marved is not good enough mechanically and no change in team structure could remedy that is wild.

extan [#101]

it’s not my prerogative to look for your evidence for you

I gave my news articles, it’s your turn to provide yours. The reason why you’re refusing to is that you can’t find any.

I have no evidence yep thats why I am refusing to not that the evidence is in the thread and if you scrolled like two times you would see it come on fat ass stop being lazy no more excuses

Breloof [#103]

an issue FNS is not going to fix

That's a bold statement. Marved was the best player mechanically on Optic next to yay and fragged like crazy. Of course it's harder to consistently win those duels when you're IGLing and have to focus on the macro a lot more.

Saying Marved is not good enough mechanically and no change in team structure could remedy that is wild.

I was not saying that at all. On the contrary, if Marved, an excellent and mechanically gifted player, could have off days with his IGL duties aim wise that resulted in duels lost that arguably cost Sentinels their chances in LCQ, FNS the worse aimer (who is rumoured to be his replacement) is not going to be an improvement in that stead.

You can speculate that the better structure will improve the fragging ability of everybody, that’s another story

I fear what FNS can do once he gets his hands on sacy and pancada...

pugboy [#104]

I have no evidence yep thats why I am refusing to not that the evidence is in the thread and if you scrolled like two times you would see it come on fat ass stop being lazy no more excuses

bro where the fuck is it

not even trolling now give me directions and I’ll take a look jeez

you understand how hypocritical this shit is right, telling other people off about being to lazy to get evidence you yourself weren’t bothered to get

extan [#107]

bro where the fuck is it

not even trolling now give me directions and I’ll take a look jeez

you understand how hypocritical this shit is right, telling other people off about being to lazy to get evidence you yourself weren’t bothered to get

Im actually so pressed rn genuinely sorry this shit just bothers me starts at #35

pugboy [#108]

Im actually so pressed rn genuinely sorry this shit just bothers me starts at #35

ok ok, understandable

the other fake flagged Canadian was spouting some mad bullshit that’s for sure

I’ll take a look ok?

pugboy [#108]

Im actually so pressed rn genuinely sorry this shit just bothers me starts at #35

ok look yeah, I read through all the dephh stuff and just know that you shouldn’t care about what that obvious baiter is talking about

I know we exchanged some relatively harsh words but I honestly think we argued about some shit we probably agree on more than you think

Dw about that other weird dude, keep up the good work and keeping everyone accountable

extan [#110]

ok look yeah, I read through all the dephh stuff and just know that you shouldn’t care about what that obvious baiter is talking about

I know we exchanged some relatively harsh words but I honestly think we argued about some shit we probably agree on more than you think

Dw about that other weird dude, keep up the good work and keeping everyone accountable

dude thank you Istg this fucking other idiot got me so mad its not even funny I swear im not usually like this i apologize I just hate vlr users sometimes

pugboy [#111]

dude thank you Istg this fucking other idiot got me so mad its not even funny I swear im not usually like this i apologize I just hate vlr users sometimes

no worries bro, ngl I got overly defensive over the course of this convo too

forget what this guy (and me too probs) said, we’re fucking internet randos who under no circumstances can you allow to actually ruin ur day ur too good for that fam

It'll be loud fns 100€

DDot [#73]

Zekken
FNS
Sacy
Pancada
Aspas
would be a good team ngl

yeah i was considering johnqt before this fns thing, now if sentinels do all this changes it is going to be even better, it will be basically the old loud + zekken (much more potential flex than saadhak) and fns which is not the best mechanically but still goated igl

extan [#112]

no worries bro, ngl I got overly defensive over the course of this convo too

forget what this guy (and me too probs) said, we’re fucking internet randos who under no circumstances can you allow to actually ruin ur day ur too good for that fam

<333

pugboy [#78]

just calculated FNC rating through every tourney and divided by how many tourneys he has played same for dephh

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO this guy might actually be special

I-JUST-can't anymore 😂😂😂