Why do all these idiots use the vandal. The phantom is by far the better gun. Another reason NA is way ahead of EU
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NSG_Observer_2 [#5]thats icebox and your on reyna
Yeah true but sen uses Phantom on icebox too and with much less impact, which map you talking about btw
Zaynio [#7]Doesn't matter, phantom is superior in all aspects.
all aspects except like maybe uhhh damage/??
PotatoCh1ps [#9]Still got owned
struglling against average EU teams like fnatic pathetic I cant wait until berlin
NSG_Observer_2 [#5]thats icebox and your on reyna
so whats ur point here? u just contradicted urself
PotatoCh1ps [#2]Asuna dropped 48 bomb with vandal
Its situational, the way he played favored the vandal. But having the whole team on vandal is ehh. Spraying thru smoke and stuff can be huge. Overall ohantom is just better, vandal is only in certain scenarios better. Even on distance where the vandal one taps its inconsistent due to its innacuracy. On 50 meters like half the shots miss a head when dead center on head
PrTsty [#15]Its situational, the way he played favored the vandal. But having the whole team on vandal is ehh. Spraying thru smoke and stuff can be huge. Overall ohantom is just better, vandal is only in certain scenarios better. Even on distance where the vandal one taps its inconsistent due to its innacuracy. On 50 meters like half the shots miss a head when dead center on head
actually, the vandal's inaccuracy isnt that bad at all. vandal is better on long range maps like icebox breeze and ascent, while phantom is better on all the other maps. vandal's' stats make it better than the phantom in a lot of ways, for example its damage is 40 body shot at all ranges, so at mid/long range vandal would win a fight, obviously it has the 1 tap headshot at all ranges as well which is a huge advantage. it also has a better recoil reset
dignityx3 [#17]actually, the vandal's inaccuracy isnt that bad at all. vandal is better on long range maps like icebox breeze and ascent, while phantom is better on all the other maps. vandal's' stats make it better than the phantom in a lot of ways, for example its damage is 40 body shot at all ranges, so at mid/long range vandal would win a fight, obviously it has the 1 tap headshot at all ranges as well which is a huge advantage. it also has a better recoil reset
Wdym with ascent lol. Also on icebox i have to flick a lot so vandal sucks again. I grt why u might think about breeze but really the first shot innacuracy is awful wich makes the one tap less effective. The gun choice is mostly about playstyle and agrnt but usually phantom is best
PotatoCh1ps [#2]Asuna dropped 48 bomb with vandal
Punching young children? Ok that's too far. I like punching old children myself.
dignityx3 [#17]actually, the vandal's inaccuracy isnt that bad at all. vandal is better on long range maps like icebox breeze and ascent, while phantom is better on all the other maps. vandal's' stats make it better than the phantom in a lot of ways, for example its damage is 40 body shot at all ranges, so at mid/long range vandal would win a fight, obviously it has the 1 tap headshot at all ranges as well which is a huge advantage. it also has a better recoil reset
Vandal on Ascent lmao you are lost. Also the phantom is literally almost as good long range as the vandal.
NSG_Observer_2 [#5]thats icebox and your on reyna
nah bro its his EU ancestry against some NA randos
PrTsty [#18]Wdym with ascent lol. Also on icebox i have to flick a lot so vandal sucks again. I grt why u might think about breeze but really the first shot innacuracy is awful wich makes the one tap less effective. The gun choice is mostly about playstyle and agrnt but usually phantom is best
ascent has a lot of MID to long range fights. for example A main to A heaven. And mid in itself is very mid/long range, and the vandal is superior in those fights as well due to its better stats. Vandal flicks on icebox work really well wdym? That just sounds like your aim isnt good enough lol. vandal's ffirst shot inaccuracy is not nearly as bad as you report it to be. Most of your shots will hit if you're accurate, its very unlikely to have that inaccuracy actually affect you in any consistent way. It doesnt make the one tap less effective, your accuracy just isnt good enough. Phantom is only best on 3 maps.
NSG_Observer_2 [#20]Vandal on Ascent lmao you are lost. Also the phantom is literally almost as good long range as the vandal.
What? Phantom iis not nearly as good as vandal in long range or even mid range. It takes 5 body shots with phantom at mid/long range while vandal it only takes 4 body shots. Also, you have the consistent 1 taps while phantom cannot one tap at those ranges. In pro play you see this happen a lot where its a phantom vs a vandal, and both pros are strafing trying to tap the head, the phantom hits the head but cannot convert to a body shot, where the pro w/ vandal hits the head right after and kills him thanks to one tap.
NSG_Observer_2 [#16]lmao what? SEN almost lost to a average NA team Gen. G lol
bro sentinels didnt had much time to prac after iceland. and still win against gen g, while sentinels used this game to try something new with yoru.
dignityx3 [#24]What? Phantom iis not nearly as good as vandal in long range or even mid range. It takes 5 body shots with phantom at mid/long range while vandal it only takes 4 body shots. Also, you have the consistent 1 taps while phantom cannot one tap at those ranges. In pro play you see this happen a lot where its a phantom vs a vandal, and both pros are strafing trying to tap the head, the phantom hits the head but cannot convert to a body shot, where the pro w/ vandal hits the head right after and kills him thanks to one tap.
if you hit the headshot with the phantom first then 29/30 times your going to win the fight.
NSG_Observer_2 [#27]if you hit the headshot with the phantom first then 29/30 times your going to win the fight.
That just isnt true at all lmao, and you can even find so many clips of pros losing fights to vandals bc of phantom not having one tap head shot and then not being able to convert the body shot due to strafing / tap fight and the other pros reaction time effectively using the vandal one tap
5555555555555555555 [#29]NA in valorant > EU in valorant
EU in CSGO > NA IN CSGO
Sentinels struggled against average eu teams like fnatic lmao.
EU had a horrible qualification system which sent two mediocre teams, just wait for berlin honestly
DogOnMan [#30]Sentinels struggled against average eu teams like fnatic lmao.
EU had a horrible qualification system which sent two mediocre teams, just wait for berlin honestly
"SENTINELS HAVE STRUGGLED" literally didnt drop a map
NSG_Observer_2 [#31]"SENTINELS HAVE STRUGGLED" literally didnt drop a map
almost dropped two.
i wouldn't call fnatic average but they are certainly not the best mate and the game was very close specially for a 3-0,
at this point sentinels > EU valorant > NA valorant
NSG_Observer_2 [#31]"SENTINELS HAVE STRUGGLED" literally didnt drop a map
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were sentinels better? yes. but to say that fnatic were the best EU team is delusional
DogOnMan [#30]Sentinels struggled against average eu teams like fnatic lmao.
EU had a horrible qualification system which sent two mediocre teams, just wait for berlin honestly
AVERAGE LMAO UR just mad fpx got their shit fucking bodied 2x, they had their chances and they choked cause they were trash at the time, stop with the COPIUM
dignityx3 [#23]ascent has a lot of MID to long range fights. for example A main to A heaven. And mid in itself is very mid/long range, and the vandal is superior in those fights as well due to its better stats. Vandal flicks on icebox work really well wdym? That just sounds like your aim isnt good enough lol. vandal's ffirst shot inaccuracy is not nearly as bad as you report it to be. Most of your shots will hit if you're accurate, its very unlikely to have that inaccuracy actually affect you in any consistent way. It doesnt make the one tap less effective, your accuracy just isnt good enough. Phantom is only best on 3 maps.
The phantom is definitely better on ascent. You will get a lot of kills through smokes on that map. Along with that in mid, the phantom is just as powerful. Due to better accuracy and spray it can actually be better in mid because you will hit a lot more body shots unlike the vandal. Unless you hit a headshot the phantom will beat the vandal in mid on ascent.
dignityx3 [#28]That just isnt true at all lmao, and you can even find so many clips of pros losing fights to vandals bc of phantom not having one tap head shot and then not being able to convert the body shot due to strafing / tap fight and the other pros reaction time effectively using the vandal one tap
I can't find more than 5.
GhostCat [#37]The phantom is definitely better on ascent. You will get a lot of kills through smokes on that map. Along with that in mid, the phantom is just as powerful. Due to better accuracy and spray it can actually be better in mid because you will hit a lot more body shots unlike the vandal. Unless you hit a headshot the phantom will beat the vandal in mid on ascent.
Nah, vandal is better on ascent for sure. Kills through smokes are extremely situational and you can do the same with the vandal. In mid, the phantom is objectively worse. Phantom does not have better accuracy, and no pro will spray down people iin mid. You clearly don't watch valorant. Pros always tap/burst fire at mid/long range fights. they dont commit to sprays, they reset recoil, which vandal is better at as well. Vandal requires less body shots too, and wins in that aspect too. The phantom actually doesnt beat vandal in mid LMAO you need to do more research.
GhostCat [#38]I can't find more than 5.
There are hundreds of scenarios and times it happens and costs them rounds.
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