has one of the best jett(kk) and raze(whzy)
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clocksky888 [#2]Well, Whzy can also play Jett, right?
Name RD KDA ADR ACS FK FD whzy 2465 1.55 182 288 24.4 15.1 ZmjjKK 3230 1.45 164 267 24.3 18.4
Whzy and kangkang are both insane, kangkang has the awping advantage but whzy has better entry movement
cboomer [#3]Whzy and kangkang are both insane, kangkang has the awping advantage but whzy has better entry movement
Aye, they both play within assign systems to assist their teams' needs. Though, to me, Whzy still appears to be slightly more impactful , but I have nothing against ZmjjKK approach since, in my opinion, there are two or three types of Jett play styles. I mean...
- Reserved: Aspas, Wardell, and up to TenZ - kind of ... then
- Moderate: cNed who is balancing (and exceptionally efficient) between reserved/moderate styles with YaY and up to ZmjjKK, who is likewise balancing but more aggressively.
- Aggressive style of Jett, based on first kill sorting, we find there Derke at the top with Whzy who looks fairly strong in the aggressive range, and he appears to be somewhat more efficient-impactful than ZmjjKK on average, in that Whzy does not die first as frequently as Zmjjkk, but he still manages to pull nice ACS/ADR rates. I don't mention FK here since they all, within aggressive, range very well from ZmjjKK's 24 to Derke's 25 on average, etc.
Name RD KDA ADR ACS FK* FD
Derke 3085 1.48 165 261 25.3 18.6
foxy9 1224 1.42 157 256 24.6 17.5
whzy 2465 1.55 182 288 24.4 15.1
Leaf 1535 1.56 165 258 24.3 19.1
ZmjjKK 3230 1.45 164 267 24.3 18.4
Yay 2862 1.48 155 247 21.6 13.5
keznit 1704 1.5 168 257 20.7 16.6
cNed 4460 1.67 165 262 20.1 12.3
TenZ 3438 1.56 157 250 19.9 14.3
Sayf 1382 1.69 161 247 19.3 13.4
Wardell 3175 1.67 156 245 18.4 9.41
Aspas 2419 1.68 163 248 18.2 11.1
Demon1 604 1.34 156 224 15.5 12* - FK sorting
P.S. The data is not strictly from this tournament, but mixed with general etc.
clocksky888 [#6]Aye, they both play within assign systems to assist their teams' needs. Though, to me, Whzy still appears to be slightly more impactful , but I have nothing against ZmjjKK approach since, in my opinion, there are two or three types of Jett play styles. I mean...
- Reserved: Aspas, Wardell, and up to TenZ - kind of ... then
- Moderate: cNed who is balancing (and exceptionally efficient) between reserved/moderate styles with YaY and up to ZmjjKK, who is likewise balancing but more aggressively.
- Aggressive style of Jett, based on first kill sorting, we find there Derke at the top with Whzy who looks fairly strong in the aggressive range, and he appears to be somewhat more efficient-impactful than ZmjjKK on average, in that Whzy does not die first as frequently as Zmjjkk, but he still manages to pull nice ACS/ADR rates. I don't mention FK here since they all, within aggressive, range very well from ZmjjKK's 24 to Derke's 25 on average, etc.
Name RD KDA ADR ACS FK* FD Derke 3085 1.48 165 261 25.3 18.6 foxy9 1224 1.42 157 256 24.6 17.5 whzy 2465 1.55 182 288 24.4 15.1 Leaf 1535 1.56 165 258 24.3 19.1 ZmjjKK 3230 1.45 164 267 24.3 18.4 Yay 2862 1.48 155 247 21.6 13.5 keznit 1704 1.5 168 257 20.7 16.6 cNed 4460 1.67 165 262 20.1 12.3 TenZ 3438 1.56 157 250 19.9 14.3 Sayf 1382 1.69 161 247 19.3 13.4 Wardell 3175 1.67 156 245 18.4 9.41 Aspas 2419 1.68 163 248 18.2 11.1 Demon1 604 1.34 156 224 15.5 12* - FK sorting
P.S. The data is not strictly from this tournament, but mixed with general etc.
upvoting just for the effort
02ac [#9]upvoting just for the effort
Thanks🍻
BTW, people were asking about Wardell vs... etc or Derke vs. Aspas ... all those could be understood through different implementations of Jett in the game etc.
P.S. Traces back to this, if interested: https://www.vlr.gg/post/125357/your-all-star-valorant-team which is pretty much the discussion that the above table relies on.
clocksky888 [#6]Aye, they both play within assign systems to assist their teams' needs. Though, to me, Whzy still appears to be slightly more impactful , but I have nothing against ZmjjKK approach since, in my opinion, there are two or three types of Jett play styles. I mean...
- Reserved: Aspas, Wardell, and up to TenZ - kind of ... then
- Moderate: cNed who is balancing (and exceptionally efficient) between reserved/moderate styles with YaY and up to ZmjjKK, who is likewise balancing but more aggressively.
- Aggressive style of Jett, based on first kill sorting, we find there Derke at the top with Whzy who looks fairly strong in the aggressive range, and he appears to be somewhat more efficient-impactful than ZmjjKK on average, in that Whzy does not die first as frequently as Zmjjkk, but he still manages to pull nice ACS/ADR rates. I don't mention FK here since they all, within aggressive, range very well from ZmjjKK's 24 to Derke's 25 on average, etc.
Name RD KDA ADR ACS FK* FD Derke 3085 1.48 165 261 25.3 18.6 foxy9 1224 1.42 157 256 24.6 17.5 whzy 2465 1.55 182 288 24.4 15.1 Leaf 1535 1.56 165 258 24.3 19.1 ZmjjKK 3230 1.45 164 267 24.3 18.4 Yay 2862 1.48 155 247 21.6 13.5 keznit 1704 1.5 168 257 20.7 16.6 cNed 4460 1.67 165 262 20.1 12.3 TenZ 3438 1.56 157 250 19.9 14.3 Sayf 1382 1.69 161 247 19.3 13.4 Wardell 3175 1.67 156 245 18.4 9.41 Aspas 2419 1.68 163 248 18.2 11.1 Demon1 604 1.34 156 224 15.5 12* - FK sorting
P.S. The data is not strictly from this tournament, but mixed with general etc.
I'll also include the remainder of the above table below in case anyone is interested....
Just a wee reminder that the general goal of the comparison is not to determine who is the best/goat etc, but to understand the general dynamics of Jett play styles through specific factors such as FK vs FD --> ACS and ADR, and so on... Or in the least way, to get a better picture. However, some trends may be detected right away, but would need to be tested, and so on.
Lastly, and with all due respect, Wardell doesn't quite match ZmjjKK (as indicated by the data provided) style of Jett in that aspect IMHO. It's not quite reasonable to perceive them as a straightforward equivalence of one and only universally established type of Jett's playstyle, considering the various limitations often imposed by the team to attain the objective. This comparison also holds true for Derke vs. Aspas and cNed.
Name RD KDA ADR ACS FK* FD
Forsaken 2467 1.62 176 280 24.2 16.2
Smth 1603 1.63 168 264 22.2 16.4
BuZz 2664 1.44 150 239 21.7 17.2
Ardiis 1535 1.45 153 232 21.6 16.5
qw1 3576 1.43 152 239 21.6 15.2
Babyay 5130 1.56 160 251 21 14.2
Jamppi 1837 1.41 136 222 20.6 18
sayaplayer 2688 1.45 154 230 20.3 16.2
Life 5533 1.47 160 248 20.2 16
D3ffo 3630 1.46 141 220 19.9 14.5
Russ(TR) 2587 1.46 164 251 19.6 13.8
Sayf 1382 1.69 161 247 19.3 13.4
Tacolilla 3304 1.46 141 217 17.5 13.9
Penny 3703 1.54 154 237 17 13.4
Poiz 3202 1.5 152 236 16.8 13.1
Shahz 2751 1.41 143 226 14.8 11.8
clocksky888 [#12]I'll also include the remainder of the above table below in case anyone is interested....
Just a wee reminder that the general goal of the comparison is not to determine who is the best/goat etc, but to understand the general dynamics of Jett play styles through specific factors such as FK vs FD --> ACS and ADR, and so on... Or in the least way, to get a better picture. However, some trends may be detected right away, but would need to be tested, and so on.
Lastly, and with all due respect, Wardell doesn't quite match ZmjjKK (as indicated by the data provided) style of Jett in that aspect IMHO. It's not quite reasonable to perceive them as a straightforward equivalence of one and only universally established type of Jett's playstyle, considering the various limitations often imposed by the team to attain the objective. This comparison also holds true for Derke vs. Aspas and cNed.
Name RD KDA ADR ACS FK* FD Forsaken 2467 1.62 176 280 24.2 16.2 Smth 1603 1.63 168 264 22.2 16.4 BuZz 2664 1.44 150 239 21.7 17.2 Ardiis 1535 1.45 153 232 21.6 16.5 qw1 3576 1.43 152 239 21.6 15.2 Babyay 5130 1.56 160 251 21 14.2 Jamppi 1837 1.41 136 222 20.6 18 sayaplayer 2688 1.45 154 230 20.3 16.2 Life 5533 1.47 160 248 20.2 16 D3ffo 3630 1.46 141 220 19.9 14.5 Russ(TR) 2587 1.46 164 251 19.6 13.8 Sayf 1382 1.69 161 247 19.3 13.4 Tacolilla 3304 1.46 141 217 17.5 13.9 Penny 3703 1.54 154 237 17 13.4 Poiz 3202 1.5 152 236 16.8 13.1 Shahz 2751 1.41 143 226 14.8 11.8
which org is paying you for this because there better be payment of some sort here
rtg9000 [#13]which org is paying you for this because there better be payment of some sort here
No... of course not.... that's barely scratching the surface... just some echoes from the past.
The part with the provided data is merely to make it easier to come back and compare, or for whatever reason... but it is essentially copy-paste as well.
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